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MOHAMMED ALIYU PAIKO
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what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 18, 2007 - 10:57 AM
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Electioneering campaigns are getting stronger with the passing of each day in USA. So many statistics keep coming up in the media regarding the chances of the different candidates (Republican, Democract or Independent as the case may be) . This means that the SEAT in the White house gets nearer to becoming vacant as we go along and constitutionally, W. Bush cannot succeed himself any more.
I was wondering what W. Bush would wish to be fondly remembered for, in his last days in office.
Any ideas......?
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 18, 2007 - 01:22 PM
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Bush will be fondly remembered for LEAVING office, that's about it.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 18, 2007 - 07:00 PM
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Hate to say it though - but we (people of 2007) will never know how Bush will be remembered.
History has a funny way of distorting the facts - there's the old saying that history is written by the winners.
Also - what people remember 10 years from now will differ from 50 years and 100 years etc. etc. etc ad infinitum to the end of time.
All we can hope for is that historians in the future will assess ALL pieces of information and form an unbiased opinion on Bush, his time in office etc.
Just imagine - if he brings peace to the world AFTER he's gone from the oval office, that is what people will remember...
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 19, 2007 - 12:20 AM
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he sure was an entertaining president. he had some pretty funny speeches, though they weren't supposed to be...and he'll have some interesting political cartoons about him. other than that...  ?
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 19, 2007 - 04:40 AM
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luke wrote:
Bush will be fondly remembered for LEAVING office, that's about it.
Bang on ! LOL
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 19, 2007 - 11:33 PM
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i see that Bush has finally signed some environmental laws...now that he's almost out of office and someone else will have to carry them out.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 20, 2007 - 02:06 AM
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he will be fondly remembered for hsi Bushisms..
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 20, 2007 - 12:38 PM
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"I am a War President," he once stated. He will certainly be remembered for that in addition to what you guys have mentioned.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 23, 2007 - 12:08 PM
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Bush will become an epitome of how morally and intellectually low America fell on its very top position.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 29, 2007 - 03:22 PM
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Funny how nobody mentioned that Bush removed the genocidal tyrant Saddam Hussein from power, that is something any leader should be 'fondly' remembered for....and is a great accomplishment to boot.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 30, 2007 - 05:10 AM
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[link="http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/10/12/disputed_study_says_600000_iraqis_killed_during_war/"]
A new study asserts that roughly 600,000 Iraqis have died from violence since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003, a figure many times higher than any previous estimate. Human Rights Watch has estimated Saddam Hussein's regime killed 250,000 to 290,000 people over 20 years.
[link="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/10/20737/582"]
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 30, 2007 - 12:15 PM
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stevew wrote:
Funny how nobody mentioned that Bush removed the genocidal tyrant Saddam Hussein from power, that is something any leader should be 'fondly' remembered for....and is a great accomplishment to boot.
Would you mention that Joseph Stalin liberated Auswitch--perhaps, the worst death camp in history? Is the fact that Stalin sacrificed twenty million Soviet soldiers to remove the far worse genocidal tyrant--Adolf Hitler--something he "should be 'fondly' remembered for" and that it "is a great accomplishment to boot"?
Just a question for you to tackle.
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 31, 2007 - 01:08 PM
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Who is committing the violence in Iraq now? Who has been committing the majority of violence in Iraq since 2003?
Answer: Shiite, Sunnis, Al-qaeda, foreign fighters from other Arab countries...all Muslims, all Arabs.
And remember, its not just Iraq where all this violence is occuring, look at Pakistan for example.
I guess we can all fondly remember the Prophet Mohammad for his lovely religion of peace, Islam, and all the peaceful and lovely relations between his followers all throughout the world.
Here's a question for you to tackle...how can you claim that Mohammed was a man of peace and that his religion (Islam) is peaceful when all over the world many of his followers are dying because of him and what he founded?
Where's the peace, I don't see any? Do you? Does anybody?
This post was edited on: 2007-12-31 at 02:03 PM by: Sockit2Ya
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 31, 2007 - 02:06 PM
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Steve,
A nice way ot trying to avoid the question by shifting to a topic that is not directly relevant for this thread. We can discuss your question although we have talked about it time and again, and I am sure you know that we cannot come to any kind of agreement. But still, if you want me to answer your question, why don't YOU first answer my question. After all, I asked first. ;-)
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Re: what would W. BUSH want to be fondly remembered for..?
December 31, 2007 - 03:47 PM
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moleepaiko wrote:
Electioneering campaigns are getting stronger with the passing of each day in USA.
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Any ideas......?
I believe Dubya would like to be remembered for bringing democracy to the islamist Middle East. In theory, giving people the ability to control their lives via elected rulers is noble but that ideal is a fools errand as it relates to the Islamic Middle East.
Democracy in a culture like ours is good, but it didn't come out of the blue or spring fully formed from some despotic, misogynistic, progress loathing background like the Middle East. It evolved slowly and painfully over about three hundred years and in its current manifestation, operates against a background of people educated from being children into valuing freedom, individuality, responsibility and constitutional process.
Drop one person one vote into Iraq, Gaza, Egypt (anywhere else you’d like to look at) - allow free access to the process for political parties, and without fail, you'll get islamist ideologues sweeping up power. Why? Because for generations, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by despots, have no aversion to unconstitutional changes of government, and believe to the core of their being in their Isalmic creed which means submission. Not only will they gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.
I’m just hoping we can manage to get through this coming year without stumblebum doing anything else really stupid.
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