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Ha Thi Lan Anh
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Brain Drain
May 29, 2003 - 11:28 AM
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Brain Drain thaz the topic
Are you concerned about it? What do you think about the issue?
How is brain drain problem like in your countries?
While globalisation allow exchange of knowledge , it brings along brain drain problems. Do you think brain drain is one of the major factors that help deepening gaps between countries and make it possible for some countries to dominate the world politically since knowledge based economy has become the foundation of today world while economy and politics are always tightly connected?
and why brain drain problem increase so massively? Is it because people are become more and more materialistic and self centered?
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brain drain - South Africa
June 3, 2003 - 03:39 AM
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If all our talented people leave to the already developed countries for larger salaries, then the developing countries will remain just that.
Among other things, poverty is a big problem in South Africa. Who is going to alleviate the poverty? Is it not the most talented that should lead the people and create wealth? The professionals that are emigrating out of South Africa include those with technical expertise, entrepreneurial and managerial skills.
I feel it's a moral obligation for South Africans who leave to return and share the benefits of their education.
SANSA (South African Network of Skill Abroad) is a global network highly skilled South Africans living overseas, who SANSA plans to link with local projects and researchers in order to contribute towards the development of a competitive, knowledge-based economy. Tha plan is to draw
draw on the expertise of skilled South Africans who live abroad, but who are keen to make a contribution to the country that nurtured them. Their URL: http://sansa.nrf.ac.za/
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Re: Brain Drain
June 3, 2003 - 10:50 AM
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Countries need to invest in local talent in order to keep them from leaving. If a bright person finishes school and, they cannot any work or then they are forced to leave.
This is a major problem and could be solved by richer more wealthy countries stop allowing talent from around the world to settle in their nation.
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Re: Brain Drain
June 3, 2003 - 11:00 AM
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I can't beleive you just said that - are U kidding - wealthy countries should stop talented people from settling with them - why in the world would they do that.
"No sorry you can't live here - you're too smart - we only take stupid people in our country."
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The inevitable
June 4, 2003 - 02:33 AM
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It is my fear that brain drain will continue to be an issue in third world countries unless the developed nations decide to give a n hand to stop it.
For instance here in Kenya, poverty in no secret, and unemployment, the sister, still dominates.And each year there comes an offer for immigration visas to US and Britain. Believe me you, this is a God sent opportunity for any person to a better living and we have the capable man le a ve the country. All this roots from poverty thus low living standards and once one learns that the knowledge one has can bring in more returns, one takes the opportunity.
If only the developed nations could somehow regulate the immigration of manpower to their countries, then maybe things could ba different but the fact that they are also humans an d they (developed nations) know the value of this men, you ca n never expect them to give up on what enables them to be successful. Unless this s truggle for power ceases
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Re: Brain Drain
June 4, 2003 - 08:31 AM
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THIS BRAIN DRAIN ISSUE IS WHAT MAJORITY OF NIGERIANS THAT ARE SKILLED ARE LOOKING FOR SINCE THE GOVT. OF THE DAY HAS FAILED WOEFULLY. THERE IS NO HOPE FOR THE YOUTH AND THE MASSES IN GENERAL.
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IT is understandable
June 4, 2003 - 10:08 AM
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that people who have a chance or opportunity to slip to or onto places of greater promise do so.
The odds of living to 99 years of age is much greater in some countries and or even continents then others. Not only age but also in greater confort.
Opportunity is the key word.
This is what epqanna is all about. Putting in an effort on a global scale to make every place as confortable for every living human being as well as ensuring that no other animals go extinct because of our blind selfish ways of the 20th century and previous known recorded time.
Some of us live in a plastic created work economy where by nature is always the most serious victim caused by our habits and/or addictions to our little pleasures while we are here.
We seem to live most of out lives entertaining ourselves at others expense. We perceive ourselves to be happy because that is all that we know. Spending vast amounts of energies and resources while doing so. Ignoring the fact that we are doing so at others health and lifeline expenses.
If mankind those of the conscious haves would stop playing, "the happy plastic puppet people", for a few years or even a few seasons then those energies could be better diverted and used. To help build where needed most.
We are letting our seperate evolutionary ways to be in charge of our long term well being (or destruction) instead of us being in charge of the planets and, many other life entities bodies, destiny.
Building 100,000 equally inhabited, (watered, sheltered, fed and educated) locations may be the greatest safety net mankind has ever endeavoured to dwell into.
The century is young, we know where we can go if we choose!
I know that we can all work on this project from where we sit, no need to change locations. The work of those in the haves areas is to convince and make others see as to how we should or could safely plan and proceed.
Together we must find and digest possible attainable solutions to what ails mankind. His animal greed, selfishness, blindness and short term vision both as seperate individual creatures and as groups or divisions of all sizes, is our curse that we live with that has to be recoginzed and broken. Grow up mankind!...he must.
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Different types of drain brain.
June 10, 2003 - 10:39 AM
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The one of course we all seem to understand to be talking about is the actual plucking of people out of one location to resettle into other places.
This happens all the time everywhere. The cities attract the smarter town or country folk, the big cites or centers attracting from smaller centers. Then of course what hurts the less fortunate or poorer countries, the exodus of minds caught within the bodies looking for greener pastures. Places of greater promise.
Of course there is also those that do want to stay within their homeland but are being chased away by the old guards, those in power resisting or opposing, sometimes real intellectual positive, change.
Another brain drain that we fail to talk about is those people who give 110% of themselves to the works assigned to them. While we all know that each time a project is given to a group of people, there are always those who goof off (play, flirt, do sloppy work, pretend to work) while others pick up after them.
IT happens in school and in the pencil pushing work world as well, and i may add in the blue collar sector but it is not the brain but rather the body that is scorched. There are always those who devote themselves more then others. These people, some, burn out. Working 10 or 14 hours, not because of unrealistic deadlines given by bosses, which sometimes may be the case but rather how the work is actually done. There always those who clean up after others or shoulder the responsibilities more. The brain can be drained or psychologicaly turned off. The bodies could break or wear out in the blue collar cases.
Those who worked hard may quit because of too much stress while others who do less may end up retiring with the company, still healthy.
The worst case is the underutilized brain. Immature man. We may not call it "Brain Drain" but, "Brain Atrophy". Sometimes i think those in charge want to keep IT that way!
Lucky for you guys you have people who think they know a lot on TIG. Who ramble on endlessly as if they know something...
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Re: Brain Drain
June 11, 2003 - 01:48 AM
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Brain drain is a serious problem, but to some extent it is helpful for both countries. Talented people are able to become highly trained in other countries, whereas their own country may not have had the resources to educate them. They can return home after their education, which a significant portion, although I think it is still the minority, do. But even if they choose to not return, they often send home significant amounts of money which help pump local economies and support those still left behind.
I would agree that brain drain has something to do with materialism. Sometimes it is relatively unselfish: wanting to provide a better life for one's children. Sometimes it is more selfish: images of Western culture, readily available from a wide variety of media sources create frustration with poverty. As one of the lucky people already in the West, I am hardly in the position to judge.
It also seems rather paradoxical that countries like the US which are so strict (Europe is laxer, but that is changing) with regular immigration rules, are so willing to bend the rules to their advantage. My aunt who lives in Russia was initially denied a visa when she applied to visit my family for a month because she was "not closely enough related to" my mother, her sister. Yet the US does not shy away from actively recruiting nurses from India because our hospitals are massively understaffed.
I don't know what kind of a solution there is. If countries ever become more equal, which is somewhat doubtful, there will doubtless be less of a problem. Until that day comes, if it ever does, it seems as though no one will ever be able to tell the US what to do.
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