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Chelsea
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What do you think?
November 7, 2007 - 03:47 PM
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I was wondering what do you think about
Terrorism?
-What's their purpose?
-Is it a mental condition?
-Are they extremely smart?
-Do they have families?
-Do they care about people?
-Are they pressured to attack because of culture?
These are all questions that I was hoping to get a better understanding about.I want to know each of your opinions about Terrorism and what you think about this subject. Thanks
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Re: What do you think?
November 7, 2007 - 05:19 PM
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My thoughts?
- to return Islam to its former glory as a dominant cultural power
- sometimes
- no, certainly not, sometimes clever, but never wise.
- yes
- they care about their sect, their tribe, they view those from other tribes, cultures etc with hatred.
- alot of times they are orphans or children of poor parents who are taken in by the "social programs" which are free school, sometimes room and board too - but these schools only teach one book, and they indoctrinate the children toward hatred.
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Re: What do you think?
November 7, 2007 - 09:06 PM
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What an irresponsible answer. Far from pointing out that there cannot be a single goal of terrorists, your answer is based on a bogus--and offensive--assumption that all terrorists are Muslims. Why would Tim McVeigh want "to return Islam to its former glory," Luke?
Indeed, if a goal "to return Islam to its former glory as a dominant cultural power" is a terrorist goal, then I am afraid overwhelming majority of Muslims are "terrorists," according to this definition. Overwhelming majority of Muslims want to return Islam to its glory, but a very few would want to do it by using force. Even a smaller number wants to do it by targetting and terrorizing civilians. While I have no problem with your criticism of the second category, only the third falls under the definition of terrorism.
Moreover, even Bin Laden's goal is not reduced to returning Islam to its glory. He also wants to "cleanse" Islam from "heretics," take revenge on Saudi Royal family for being corrupt and allowing US forces in their land, take revenge on Russians for Chechnya, take revenge on the US for support for Israel and sanctions of mass destruction against Iraq, etc.
If we look at 7/7 perpetrators, their goal, after watching hours and hours of videos showing Iraqi children killed, was to take revenge on the British for invasion of Iraq.
Back to the question, there are many terrorist groups in the world and it is impossible to designate one or several specific goals of theirs'. However, one thing that united them is the readiness to target civilians to achieve their political, ideological, or religious goals. That is actually what makes them terrorist.
Arslan
This post was edited on: 2007-11-07 at 09:10 PM by: Arslan Jumaniyazov
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Re: What do you think?
November 7, 2007 - 10:53 PM
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So if Muslims want Islam to return to its glory days, then they are 'terrorists'?
If wanting to return to the days of Al-Khawarizmi, Haroon Al-Rasheed, Ibn Al-Haitham, and Jabir Ibn Hayyan would classify me a 'terrorist', then call me one.
God Save our minds!
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Re: What do you think?
November 8, 2007 - 04:19 AM
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I believe terrorism cannot be boiled down to answers that you just provided, it has a complicated nature and it targets muslims as well.
It's not based on the tenets of Islam since i believe it takes its roots from Darwinism with the will to struggle no matter what!
And it's bad enough that people have been brainwashed with it and with the help of media now represent Islam.
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Re: What do you think?
November 9, 2007 - 05:43 AM
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vertigo7 wrote:
I believe terrorism cannot be boiled down to answers that you just provided, it has a complicated nature and it targets muslims as well.
It's not based on the tenets of Islam since i believe it takes its roots from Darwinism with the will to struggle no matter what!
And it's bad enough that people have been brainwashed with it and with the help of media now represent Islam.
Very smart answer!
You are totally right in saying that social Darwinism is all about survivial of the fittest in society.
Social Darwinism is the idea that Charles Darwin's theory can be extended and applied to the social realm, i.e. that just as competition between individual organisms drives biological evolutionary change (speciation) through "survival of the fittest" (not a scientific term itself), competition between individuals, groups, nations or ideas drives social evolution in human societies.
The term was popularized in 1944 by the American historian Richard Hofstadter, and has generally been used by critics rather than advocates of what the term is supposed to represent (Bannister, 1979; Hodgson, 2004).
While the term has been applied to the claim that Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection can be used to understand the social endurance of a nation or country, social Darwinism commonly refers to ideas that predate Darwin's publication of his theory. Others whose ideas are given the label include the 18th century clergyman Thomas Malthus, and Darwin's cousin Francis Galton who founded eugenics towards the end of the 19th century.
Some claim that it supports racism on the lines set out by Arthur de Gobineau before Darwin published his theories, which directly contradict Darwin's own work. This classification of social Darwinism constitutes part of the reaction against the Nazi regime and the Holocaust.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism
It had its day during end of 19th century and some claim that it paved its way to Nazism..
Modern terrorism might be boiled down to religion fantisism, social discontent and repression, and revolutionary thrust, all of those expressed in violent terms...
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