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Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 7, 2007 - 02:28 AM

well, i wanted to point out this thing. For the last 6 years the Whole world is trying to Defeat the Terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq, but they are failing day by day.

Hence this proves that the Armed Forces (Good for nothing) are defeated by the Terrorists or Al-Qaeda. So why to say that a Country is Super Power.

A group of terrorists can defend themselves with some AK47 and RPGS and TNTs. Enough.

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October 19, 2007 - 03:11 AM

Aw kana,, aw kanaaaaaaaaa Merasmareeya,, yes Exactly,, Fahim jan is right,, and the Terrorists proved that there is no Super Power,, What statment i liked most in Fahim's Sayings is that Armed or Nato Forces are Good for nothing,, cause they havent done any thing,, still there is no peace, no collaboration between the Government and public in the Southern side of Afghanistan. The government is loosing its authourity in the region day by day. this is what the Nato or Armed forces are giving us,, there is still no progress in political set up which is very important. So we want that there should be peaceful negotiations between the Alliances, governement and Taliban or Alqaeda until they reach any positive conclusion. secretive


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October 20, 2007 - 05:06 AM

You two really need to tell us what life is like in Afghanistan. How do you feel when you walk down the street or go to a market? How does it feel to know that any car driving by might explode and wipe you out? How does it feel to know that a rocket might fly in from the blue sky and kill you without any warning?

Is terrorism really such a wonderful thing? Is there really cause to be so happy that terrorism is getting stronger? Do you really want the Taliban back in power?


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October 20, 2007 - 05:44 AM

Wa Sta pa Nia wakhejum Proteina,, The Life is not good in Afghanistan,, the situation is getting worse day by day,, I just mean that why it is so,, why the situation is getting worser, and what is the benifit of Nato Forces in our country,, why they havent succeeded in bringing peace in Afghanistan.. we r not happy with what U said..


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October 20, 2007 - 10:50 PM


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Wa Sta pa Nia wakhejum Proteina,, The Life is not good in Afghanistan,, the situation is getting worse day by day,, I just mean that why it is so,, why the situation is getting worser, and what is the benifit of Nato Forces in our country,, why they havent succeeded in bringing peace in Afghanistan.. we r not happy with what U said..


Oh, sorry I misunderstood you. I thought President Karzai recently offered to negotiate with the Taliban, but they refused, saying all the Coalition forces had to leave Afghanistan first.

If you don't want the Taliban in power again, maybe you should think of ways to support the Kabul government or to help them in their battle against the Taliban.

I think terrorism is always much easier than its opposite: creation of a "dignified" life. It is much more difficult to create a healthy economy, build cities, make infrastructure, etc., than it is to destroy these things.

An act of destruction (whether of a building or of a human life) takes only a few seconds and a bullet or a cheap bomb. The construction of a building takes months, the creation of an adult human life takes many years. Which is the nobler effort? Which effort is more deserving of praise and admiration? I think the answer is obvious.

We must all find ways to stop this cowardly, and all too easy, terrorism. Rather than sit on the sidelines and complain about the Coalition forces inability to stop Taliban terror, why don't you think of ways to stop it?


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October 22, 2007 - 01:04 AM

on 9/11 I went to ground zero - in the dust that clung to the windows we wrote messages -

I wrote "The strong build the weak destroy"


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October 22, 2007 - 01:28 AM


Oh, sorry I misunderstood you. I thought President Karzai recently offered to negotiate with the Taliban, but they refused, saying all the Coalition forces had to leave Afghanistan first.

If you don't want the Taliban in power again, maybe you should think of ways to support the Kabul government or to help them in their battle against the Taliban.

I think terrorism is always much easier than its opposite: creation of a "dignified" life. It is much more difficult to create a healthy economy, build cities, make infrastructure, etc., than it is to destroy these things.

An act of destruction (whether of a building or of a human life) takes only a few seconds and a bullet or a cheap bomb. The construction of a building takes months, the creation of an adult human life takes many years. Which is the nobler effort? Which effort is more deserving of praise and admiration? I think the answer is obvious.

We must all find ways to stop this cowardly, and all too easy, terrorism. Rather than sit on the sidelines and complain about the Coalition forces inability to stop Taliban terror, why don't you think of ways to stop it?


dear prieten,
we are not celebrating the failure of our government in this regard. we are upset for why the armed forces from all around the world cannot defeat taliban or terrorist.

the conditions are getting worst day by day...we always discuss and think about how to find a way to finish this killing and dispute among the government and terrorist but how come we can do this , coz the armed forces are killing our own afghans without any reason. these armed forces good for nothing have built huge and strong bases in each city and when it comes to road they start firing at any car which will move a bit towards them. last night armed forces in kabul started firing at a vehicle just because they were in hurry and wanted to take over the road.

so if these armed forces are that much afraid of the blasts and suicide attacks then we dont need them.
when it comes to front line war they ask afghan forces to go and fight the taliban or terrorists.who cares !!


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 22, 2007 - 03:34 AM

well, before anything else, i will put terrorists into inverted commas "terrorists'', for some people in afghanistan; they are the liberators!

then will ask u fahim and jalalzai a simple question:

do u want to say that foreing troops with huge presence and power in afghanistan dont want to defeat the taliban? do they want to give taliban an opportunity to kill the afghan masses so they find justification for a long presence in the country and control the entire region?

plz explain!


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 22, 2007 - 06:12 AM

Okay, Jalalzai, Payab and Hatamkhalid,

Maybe the effort of the Coalition forces is futile. Maybe terrorists or Taliban can't be defeated by an occupying army, especially if it doesn't have the support of the Afghanistan people.

Maybe the Coalition forces should pull out and let the Taliban win. Then when Al Qaeda and Osama bin Ladin move their operation back into Afghanistan, you will be happy. The beheadings in the soccer stadium will start up again.

And the cruise missles and bombs will rain on your head, because your country is once again a safe haven for terrorists!

It seems your choice is this: resist the Taliban and their terrorism now or find yourself living in a "terrorist" country. The choice is yours. Invest a little energy in thinking of ways to help your government now, while you still can, instead of laughing over the Coalition's difficulties .


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 22, 2007 - 08:26 AM

well,something is going under the carpet...if NATO was interested in defeating the terrorist in Afghanistan then they should have defeated them till now.
last week in Jalalabad road taliban blocked the road for an hour and no armed forces were there to fight them..after they went then the armed forces came and started investigation by asking normal people to stop thier cars. this is not the way to fight terrorism.

Some Fact still prove that US is interested in Staying in afghanistan that why they are not fighting against the terrorist.


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October 22, 2007 - 08:39 AM


prieten47 wrote:

Okay, Jalalzai, Payab and Hatamkhalid,

Maybe the effort of the Coalition forces is futile. Maybe terrorists or Taliban can't be defeated by an occupying army, especially if it doesn't have the support of the Afghanistan people.

Maybe the Coalition forces should pull out and let the Taliban win. Then when Al Qaeda and Osama bin Ladin move their operation back into Afghanistan, you will be happy. The beheadings in the soccer stadium will start up again.

And the cruise missles and bombs will rain on your head, because your country is once again a safe haven for terrorists!

It seems your choice is this: resist the Taliban and their terrorism now or find yourself living in a "terrorist" country. The choice is yours. Invest a little energy in thinking of ways to help your government now, while you still can, instead of laughing over the Coalition's difficulties .


Prieten you are not aware of these things in afganistan. why would we be happy when innocent people are killed in afghanistan. are you insane!!??
The beheading in te stadium was good , because after the beheading no one ever tried to repeat that mistake( evil). i dont want to discuss it more !!..

we dont feel a diff in taliban government and this government, just because still more people are killed because of war.

we do laugh at coalition forces because they are good for nothing. Once i was going somewhere in a taxi and when we headed towards a road, that road was blocked by Armed Forces, so that Taxi driver told me that these forces cannot protect themselves from terrorist and they have come to protect us. haha . so truly they are so much afraid that they fire when you move a bit towards them even if you are 50 meters away from thier vehicle.


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 22, 2007 - 12:56 PM

"if NATO was interested in defeating the terrorist in Afghanistan then they should have defeated them till now. "


your conspiracy theories do not impress me. I know soldiers that fought in Afhganistan - they desire VERY much to defeat the Taliban - they risk their lives to do so.

the Idea that NATO is not trying to win this fight is laughable nonsense.

Frankly I think they lack the troops - there are more policemen in New York today then NATO soldiers in Afghanistan.

Also, Al Qaeda and the Taliban are regrouping in northern Pakistan - where NATO can't go.

if the Pakistani government decides to get tough with the Northern tribes you will see a decrease in Taliban power immediately.

I think will all the assasination attempts, like the recent bombing against Bhutto - the Pakistani government realize that they cannot afford to let Al Qaeda and the Taliban grow strong any more else they will threaten the stability of Pakistan.

I expect action soon.


also, Gentlemen, this is one reason why Americans like me are so upset by the invasion of Iraq - is took rescources away from Afghanistan and makes it hard to finish the job there.

I think we should have left Iraq alone and focused on vanquishing the Taliban and focused on building Afghanistan's economy.

a number of presidential candidates - notably Obama - are promising to do exactly this.


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 23, 2007 - 09:10 AM


Payab wrote:

The beheading in te stadium was good , because after the beheading no one ever tried to repeat that mistake( evil). i dont want to discuss it more !!..


Payab the Beheader, it has a certain ring to it...

There were many beheadings in the soccer stadium. I guess people were repeating their "mistakes".


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 23, 2007 - 09:31 AM

Well LUKE and PRIETEN I am sure u guys are not much aware of the consequences that is going on in Afghanistan,, i admit that right now we

have the basic infrastructure of the Government in Afghanistan laid down in

2004. but when some thing is not working effectively, why should we

stick to that thing. The question is That why all the fighting groups or by your

sayings Terrorists are getting stronger and there is increase in hostile reaction

against the Government, which in result bring fighting and the innocent public

dies. we want to sort out solutions for this,, but U (an intellegent Person)

knows betterly that when there is no power and no authority in Public

hands, how can we do any thing. Our Parliament discuss all these issues and

they reach solutions, but who gonna apply those Solution, definitly there is

no Authority with the Public Representatives, with Government

Officials those who really wants to slove the problems peacefully. and its

obvious that things going on behind the Curtain is really not for bringing

Democracy in Afghanistan but its a hypocritical game and that United Sates is not sincere.

This post was edited on: 2007-10-23 at 09:33 AM by: AFGHANISTAN


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Re: Terrorists Proved that There is no Super Power Country!
October 23, 2007 - 12:53 PM

Just because there is no solution to the myriad of social and economic problems in the middle east does in no way prove that superpower countries do not exist.

First, in my eyes, a superpower country is on the highest stage economically. Then comes military and nuclear capabilities, which must also be first rate.

Does the lack of planning by our president and his staff, who got us into this hopeless situation, prove that there are no superpowers? No, of course not. The president simply should have realized before he committed our country to a two front war that by eliminating the regimes in power would only lead to a downward struggle leading to civil war between the religious factions that have hated each other for a thousand years. In my eyes, Saddam Hussein was a horrible man, but might have been the only thing that ensured civil stability through fear.

This post was edited on: 2007-10-23 at 01:05 PM by: Mark Henderson


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