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chybuz
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china and substandard technologies.
September 24, 2007 - 03:07 PM
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Is there no international law on technologies produced in every part of this earth?
The reason am asking this question is because of what i'll call a misrepresentation of innovation by the chinese.
They are not there to innovate but to emulate and dis organise every innovation.
I think its high time they are been warned of this dastard act.They should desist from it. If they have to produce they have to have a franchise right from the original innovator and also meet up with the stantard with which the innovator has for its products.
Or what do you think?.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
September 28, 2007 - 01:29 AM
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There are Intellectual Property regulations and IP agreements. Many information are available on:
http://www.wipo.int/portal/index.html.en
which in same cases act as mediator among companies/people with IP issues. Hope this helped!
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
September 29, 2007 - 04:19 AM
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chybuz wrote:
Is there no international law on technologies produced in every part of this earth?
The reason am asking this question is because of what i'll call a misrepresentation of innovation by the chinese.
They are not there to innovate but to emulate and dis organise every innovation.
I think its high time they are been warned of this dastard act.They should desist from it. If they have to produce they have to have a franchise right from the original innovator and also meet up with the stantard with which the innovator has for its products.
Or what do you think?.
Are you talking about piracy of intellectual property? Yes, this has been a big problem in China. The government often says it is putting a stop to this, but the problem continues.
I think we shouldn't forget that the Chinese do usually have agreements/ partnerships with foreign companies which make their products actually very good quality, and at a good price. There will always be crooks everywhere who want to get rich quick by stealing other peoples technology/ideas.This is not just a Chinese problem.
I am very impressed with an electric car the Chinese are selling in America. The car costs about $10,000, has four seats and the quality is supposed to be quite good. Another electric car sold in America is made in India. It is more expensive, but the performance is also better. Both cars were made in partnership between American/Chinese and American/Indian companies. I think Americans are just "idea" people these days, and the workers are in the developing world. That is why America is very concerned about their "ideas" (intellectual property).
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
September 29, 2007 - 08:57 PM
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umm
i think Chinese imitates so good yeah thats totaly true but quality wise i try to avoid as possible any Chinese product
whatever they say its not as any other country quality compare for example a Chinese vs japanese product and after that gimme one good reason that i would buy the Chinese one even its lower in price but on the long run it wont last as the japanese  so why bother with it and buy it from the beginning it might be a good idea to penetrate developing countries markets thats all but they are no good at the end.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 2, 2007 - 03:07 PM
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Hi!
Today, Japan means high-tech, quality products. But if we ask our parents, it hasn't always been like that. Before, made in Japan meant cheap and easy-to-break stuff.
It is a matter of time, and the quality of Chinese products will rise and rise. China has one big advantage, which makes it unique: in other countries, when quality rises, so do salaries. In China, there are enough workers to push up quality and industrialization, with soft effects on salaries.
One main concern is about enviromental substainability: what is the cost for nature? In terms of pollution, use of resources, etc. I am quite sure the issue with China will not be quality, but to ensure a substainable development for people and nature.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 2, 2007 - 03:17 PM
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well in japan they still care about human beings and treat employees as they should
in china they dont  some factories give employees some food per day for their work
so yeah maybe one day china will be bettter then japan but thats on the cost of human rights
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 4, 2007 - 05:03 AM
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Hi!
That was just my two cents. I am not Japanese nor Chinese, so I hope my point of view is not biased by cultural affinities :-)
I agree China has to go long way in terms of human and workers rights, you made a great point about that. And I hope that international pressure for next Olympics will boost improvements.
From a technological point of view, I still think that Chinese goods will get better and better, as Japanese ones did. Not sure who will lead in innovation, I guess it depends on which specific sector of IT we consider.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 14, 2007 - 01:59 PM
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Thanks for your ideas i believe it will add positively to human lives.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 14, 2007 - 02:08 PM
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Thanks to you for kickstarting a very interesting conversation!
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 14, 2007 - 06:42 PM
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China is easily the worlds largest pirate of IP.
At some level they simply want to advance at any cost so if they see a technology they like they just take it.
and yes they often remake the cheap version. I remember watching video of them taking apart a Toyota, seeing how it is put together - then fabricating their own on the same design.
part of the reason that IP rights have to be respected is for the good of the international market,
You have to reward innovators for their inventions or else people everywhere will be less likely to invest in research and development - and this will lead to a slow-down in innovation itself.
The best way to encourage innovation is to reward the innovators -
the way China rips it off is undermining this principal.
As a filmmaker myself I can tell yu that we thought of shooting in China because of the cheap labor -
but it was deemed to risky, the odds are high that your footage would just be ripped off, copied, and find its way to the streets of Chinese cities in short order.
but, realistically - it will be a long process to get upwardly mobile 3rd world nations to respect IP laws.
it will happen when China starts inventing things that they want the rest of the world to pay for.
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Re: china and substandard technologies.
October 18, 2007 - 03:45 PM
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Luke,
You guys took da best decision ,if not , they will help you to produce and at da same time flood the market with the movie.
I dont know why they luv to pirate things rather than inventing.
They have every chance to invent but they choose to pirate other people inventory.
I hope some day they will change.
This post was edited on: 2007-10-18 at 03:53 PM by: chybuz
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