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TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 3, 2007 - 02:50 PM
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Hi folks!
I'm TIG's Development and Communications Manager, and one of my main responsibilities is to raise money for TIG.
What does this mean? Well, in a nutshell, I'm looking to a number of different avenues: private foundations, government grants and corporate sponsors.
Obviously we want to align with partners that reflect the same ideals and mission as we do - but I was hoping that you (our TIG members) can help me out.
Over the next couple of weeks, I'll be posting a number of polls on this discussion board - I'll be naming some potential corporate sponsors that TIG could work with - but I'd like to know how you feel about them.
For now though - I'm going to pose a question: what companies should TIG NOT receive money from?
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 01:03 AM
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Good effort, great question!
I am of the view that although the purpose for which the fund-raising excercise is being sugested is a necessity based on need, we should be carefull lest we compromise the objectives of TIG.
For one, I will suggest we avoid funds from:
1. Politicians and politically biased international institutions- Theymay want to influence the moderation of our discussions to suit their selfish international agitations.
2. Funds meant for refugees and displaced persons-They are better used to serve the purposes for which they are intended.
3. Funds for HIV/AIDS campaign/advocacy organizations-They need all the antivirals they can lay their hands on, to assist as many patients as posible.
4. Fame-seeking, corrupt government officials-They would try to justify their contributions to TIG as "for a humanitarian cause"
5. Crafty business-minded people-We have a global community here, we could be their gateway to advertize to the world.
But again, I could be very wrong. This is an opinion poll, isnt it?
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 01:28 PM
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TIG should not collect funds from, in my opinion, tobacco companies or individuals with strong affiliate to this industry, agencies whose policies / activities works against the aspiration of young people, companies that deals in ponographic materials/products, companies that produce military hardwares or with a subsidiary (ies) that does this, individual or agency involved in unwholesome medical research etc. to name a few.
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 01:52 PM
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Lekanbabz wrote:
TIG should not collect funds from, in my opinion, tobacco companies or individuals with strong affiliate to this industry, agencies whose policies / activities works against the aspiration of young people, companies that deals in ponographic materials/products, companies that produce military hardwares or with a subsidiary (ies) that does this, individual or agency involved in unwholesome medical research etc. to name a few.
Great thoughts - but could you expand what you mean by "unwholesome medical research"? Where would you draw the line? If a new drug that is being developed could lead to longer lives - and the only way to test it was to have trials with people - would it be wrong to receive money from them?
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 01:55 PM
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moleepaiko wrote:
Good effort, great question!
I am of the view that although the purpose for which the fund-raising excercise is being sugested is a necessity based on need, we should be carefull lest we compromise the objectives of TIG.
For one, I will suggest we avoid funds from:
1. Politicians and politically biased international institutions- Theymay want to influence the moderation of our discussions to suit their selfish international agitations.
2. Funds meant for refugees and displaced persons-They are better used to serve the purposes for which they are intended.
3. Funds for HIV/AIDS campaign/advocacy organizations-They need all the antivirals they can lay their hands on, to assist as many patients as posible.
4. Fame-seeking, corrupt government officials-They would try to justify their contributions to TIG as "for a humanitarian cause"
5. Crafty business-minded people-We have a global community here, we could be their gateway to advertize to the world.
But again, I could be very wrong. This is an opinion poll, isnt it?
Yes - this is a free forum and I'm glad that you're voicing your opinion. Part of the reason I started this thread was to really understand who our members are.
That said - how would you characterize a "crafty business-minded" person? I'm not quite sure what you're implying here - maybe you could give me some examples?
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 09:18 PM
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Any one or organization search to be a sponsor for an event or work, must have a target want to get it.
may be political, religious or financial target.
The important thing is to be be able to achive his target and get what you need.
I am as ordinary user will not be annoyed if i saw google ADS in the site also this is non-profit organiztion, but i see that this will be a way for developping the organization and in the same time google will get its benefit.
But away from the politics and religions, their is something does not agree with or habits, like drugs, sex and something likethis.
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 4, 2007 - 10:31 PM
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A TIG sponsorship proposal tied to an advertisement proposal or TIG receives funding on the condition that progams are designed to meet certain criteria that enables the sponsor gain lots of publicity for its products, services, personnel etc.
In a nutshell, sponsorship proposals from individuals & corporate bodies which have conditions attached should be well evaluated, else we are tricked into becooming a market outlet rather than a 'liberal', non-profit organization where opinions are shared in an effort to make the world a better place.
However, this does not preclude TIG from negotiating since it is very difficult (if not imposible) to receive such things as "unconditional funding" or "free funding". I am certain that most of our would-be sponsors already have objectives which they intend to achieve.
Like I said earler, this is purely my opinion and I stand to be corrected.
This post was edited on: 2007-08-04 at 10:34 PM by: MOHAMMED ALIYU PAIKO
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 5, 2007 - 04:20 AM
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SPONSORSHIP IS NEEDED TO CREATE A SYNERGY OF MUTUAL INTEREST.
Therefore, the only sponsorship needed by TIG, has to come from those who are engaged into genuine sustainability and who recognize the value of our existance and work for their own aims and interests.
TIG's position is designed to open up the free flow of High-Trust engagement toward the Millinium Goals of the UN.
So before trying to identify who not to be with, I suggest that we should simply cut to the chase by first learning how to nurture the focus of TIG in the clarity of transparency of
who we are,
when are we relevant,
what are we positioned to do,
how do we move on and,
why do we exist,
which completes the learning curve of a cycle, readying me and us all to face up to another cycle growth of
First
"WHO WE ARE"
and then once well rooted in the cycles of personal and communal growth ,
WHAT WE STAND AGAINST WILL SIMPLY VANISH, LIKE DARKNESS GETS REMOVED BY THE SHINNING FORTH OF THE LIGHT...
Let us approach SPONSORSHIP as if it is all about the Health-Education-Correction that develops humanity's Recovery Road from self-destruction to self-control and community self-governemnt.
Anyone who is not actively engaged in the direction we are going and in standing against what we do stand againgst, is not welcome to sponsor TIG, unless they can make a case by which to prove us wrong to refuse them.
To view an example of work being done outside TIG that aims in the same direction:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/backtotheroot/message/606
This post was edited on: 2007-08-05 at 04:35 AM by: Benoit Couture
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 6, 2007 - 06:00 AM
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If there is one thing that TIG needs is the funds but we NEVER seem to know how and where they are used so we are left at crossroads n the basis that we shall indorse your proposal toi raise the funds but we wil never get to know how they are used!It doesnt matter where they are from they may even come from us as memebers of TIG but ACCOUNTABILITY is the issue here!
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 7, 2007 - 01:54 PM
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Hi all - thanks for the great feedback - please keep them coming, and encourage all of your friends to comment as well.
I'm curious to know what the mood is regarding advertising - a couple of the posters replied with a couple of lines about advertising.
Could you see a TIG website with advertising? What sorts of advertising are you amenable to? What types of promotions do you NOT want to see on the website? Does the area of the website matter?
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 7, 2007 - 02:22 PM
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9090 wrote:
If there is one thing that TIG needs is the funds but we NEVER seem to know how and where they are used so we are left at crossroads n the basis that we shall indorse your proposal toi raise the funds but we wil never get to know how they are used!It doesnt matter where they are from they may even come from us as memebers of TIG but ACCOUNTABILITY is the issue here!
I can answer part of your concerns:
How the money is spent is quite simple - naturally, as a non-profit charity, we are not legally allowed to "make" money. This also means that any funding raised (whether through corporate sponsorship, individual donations, government funding) has to be spent on one of three areas: program/content, overhead and salaries.
Now, certain sources (in particular, gov't funding) require a certain percentage of funds be used for overhead and salaries - so in cases like that, we are bound by an agreement on how to use these funds.
Essentially - we need money to pay for the free content that you enjoy, to pay for the staff's time - ie. EVERYTHING. My challenge is to find sources of revenue that everyone (TIG, members and the sponsor) is comfortable with.
If you';d like specific breakdowns of how the money is used, you can always download our 2005 Annual Report (http://about.takingitglobal.org/d/publications?view=12)
Our 2006 is being completed right now - so in a couple of months you should be able to download that version.
Hope this helps!
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 7, 2007 - 02:29 PM
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Benoit17 wrote:
SPONSORSHIP IS NEEDED TO CREATE A SYNERGY OF MUTUAL INTEREST.
Therefore, the only sponsorship needed by TIG, has to come from those who are engaged into genuine sustainability and who recognize the value of our existance and work for their own aims and interests.
...
TIG's position is designed to open up the free flow of High-Trust engagement toward the Millinium Goals of the UN.
...
Let us approach SPONSORSHIP as if it is all about the Health-Education-Correction that develops humanity's Recovery Road from self-destruction to self-control and community self-governemnt.
Hi
You raise a number of interesting points - not all I agree with however...
First - I agree that a synergy will take place once TIG has found the right sponsor - the ideal relationship is one where both parties are satisfied with the benefits gained, and that there's a recognition that each org's credibility lends itself to the other.
Second - I don't think that TIG's only purpose is to facilitate the UN Millennium Goals - while they are very important, TIG also facilitates connections between members and encourage them to take on any cause they are interested in. So I have to respectfully disagree with your comment.
I'm unclear though about your third statement (which I quoted above) - I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. I think you are saying we should "sell" TIG under the guise of Education and Health - but that in itself is confusing and misleading.
If you could care to explain further what you opine, that would be great.
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 8, 2007 - 11:21 AM
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First, I apologise for the misconception regarding TIG's exclusive reason to exist being the UN Milinium goals.
The main point that I am trying to raise is that TIG can move on assertively in its role of mediator between the stake holders who work at making humanity healthier and better educated.
Because of the context of TIG status that you described as being a non-profit entity which is not allowed to make any profit, we are then positioned to serve those who have interest in balancing business, governance and citizenship.
So then, why not become a source of man power, offering custom training and facilitation for our partners and sponsors on the road from personal to communal, getting ready to serve from local to global?
In other words, let's avoid financial dictatorship from sponsors who are controlling instead of mutually supportinve.
Does that help?
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August 8, 2007 - 12:54 PM
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Benoit17 wrote:
First, I apologise for the misconception regarding TIG's exclusive reason to exist being the UN Milinium goals.
The main point that I am trying to raise is that TIG can move on assertively in its role of mediator between the stake holders who work at making humanity healthier and better educated.
Because of the context of TIG status that you described as being a non-profit entity which is not allowed to make any profit, we are then positioned to serve those who have interest in balancing business, governance and citizenship.
So then, why not become a source of man power, offering custom training and facilitation for our partners and sponsors on the road from personal to communal, getting ready to serve from local to global?
In other words, let's avoid financial dictatorship from sponsors who are controlling instead of mutually supportinve.
Does that help?
This post was edited on: 2007-08-08 at 11:27 AM by: Benoit Couture
Hi Benoit!
Thanks for responding! This is certainly helpful for me - much clearer.
But on your point about TIG being a source of man power - are you suggesting we turn this idea into a revenue model? However, I would (personally) rather see all of our members do that - offer their experiences and advice to corporations who are willing to learn from youth. That said, our co-founders Jennifer and Michael have done this sort of "consulting" in the past - so there is potential for TIG to continue that in the future
Still I am baffled at your use of the term "financial dictatorship" - this implies that TakingITGlobal has no say in how funds given are used - which is completely untrue. More often than not, we are the ones dictating how the money should be spent. When I send a sponsorship proposal to a Fortune 500 company, I'm telling them: I will spend your money on X,Y and Z. Of course, we are willing to negotiate and make sure we're both happy, but ultimately, the power lies with TIG and not sponsors.
But yes - sponsors who are mutually supportive are definitely the sort of corporations that I will be targetting.
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Re: TIG Sponsorship - an introduction
August 8, 2007 - 02:04 PM
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You wrote:
"Still I am baffled at your use of the term "financial dictatorship" - this implies that TakingITGlobal has no say in how funds given are used"
Again, excuse my French. I did not mean to imply that this is the case with TIG but rather, to be aware of such perils of "cerain funding".
I am encouraged by your respond to the idea of possible training. Being from Canada, perhaps you'd like to know that I seek to spread the initiative of creating a Canadian Heart Forces, which involves the development of a socio-cultural task force being dispatched ahead of armed forces, such as in Afghanistan.
That is the kind of training I think that TIG is in position to launch, in collaboration with the powers that be.
My main advice to TIG is to release the meaning of the word youth from the limits of age.
Let youth be a quality of humanity that reaches all ages for the benefit of universal innovation, creativity and collaboration.
This is the purpuse behind the name of The Ancient Voice of Humanioty's Youth, a group I started at:
http://groups.takingitglobal.org/AVHY
Thanks for the opportunity...
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