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Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 19, 2007 - 10:15 AM
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Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. The above statement credited to Albert Einstein is really thought-provoking. But, is it true? What do you think?
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 19, 2007 - 10:20 AM
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I understand what religion without science is blind means, however I'm not too sure what science without religion is lame means.
I would agree with the latter anyways.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 19, 2007 - 01:05 PM
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Check out the context of the above statement here
Given below is Einstein's own definition of Religion and Science.
Religion and Science: Irreconcilable?
A response to a greeting sent by the Liberal Ministers' Club of New York City. Published in The Christian Register, June, 1948. Published in Ideas and Opinions, Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1954.
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As to science, we may well define it for our purpose as "methodical thinking directed toward finding regulative connections between our sensual experiences." Science, in the immediate, produces knowledge and, indirectly, means of action. It leads to methodical action if definite goals are set up in advance. For the function of setting up goals and passing statements of value transcends its domain. While it is true that science, to the extent of its grasp of causative connections, may reach important conclusions as to the compatibility and incompatibility of goals and evaluations, the independent and fundamental definitions regarding goals and values remain beyond science's reach.
As regards religion, on the other hand, one is generally agreed that it deals with goals and evaluations and, in general, with the emotional foundation of human thinking and acting, as far as these are not predetermined by the inalterable hereditary disposition of the human species. Religion is concerned with man's attitude toward nature at large, with the establishing of ideals for the individual and communal life, and with mutual human relationship. These ideals religion attempts to attain by exerting an educational influence on tradition and through the development and promulgation of certain easily accessible thoughts and narratives (epics and myths) which are apt to influence evaluation and action along the lines of the accepted ideals.
It is this mythical, or rather this symbolic, content of the religious traditions which is likely to come into conflict with science. This occurs whenever this religious stock of ideas contains dogmatically fixed statements on subjects which belong in the domain of science. Thus, it is of vital importance for the preservation of true religion that such conflicts be avoided when they arise from subjects which, in fact, are not really essential for the pursuance of the religious aims.
.............read on..........
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 19, 2007 - 01:09 PM
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Thanks!
Reading now...
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 20, 2007 - 12:16 AM
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Science needs religion like I need a hole in the head.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
July 20, 2007 - 12:31 AM
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Some argue that science has become a religion though (and no, I'm not talking about scientology). I think it's partially true or becoming partially true.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
March 21, 2010 - 11:16 AM
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Shmo wrote:
Some argue that science has become a religion though (and no, I'm not talking about scientology). I think it's partially true or becoming partially true.
Science can never be a religion because it is our lack of faith [in our theories] that makes us good scientists. This is a crucial point, as in science we seek to show that a theory is good by doing everything we can to bring it down. In religion there is no testing, no peer review, no scrutiny. In a religion, one has faith in the doctrine of the church [or whatever] and therefore accepts - without testing - its claims. Faith and science are polar oppisites.
It is not even partially true that science is becoming a religion.
Thank you for bringing it up.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
March 22, 2010 - 04:00 PM
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you dont know what ur talkin about
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
March 22, 2010 - 11:18 PM
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pretty sure I do know what I am talking about, Maurice.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
March 26, 2010 - 02:59 PM
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let's try and keep things respectful here. Religion and Science can be sensitive subjects, and its unlikely everyone will agree, still we can learn a lot from each other's points of view if we dont resort to personal attacks.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
April 15, 2010 - 02:54 PM
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I agree with this statement.
Religion, to be truly from a transcendental God, has to necessarily encourage human intellectual growth, which can be called Science in general. Otherwise I think religion loses is credibility. On the flip side, there are many things science has not explained and many that seem beyond human understanding, and for that you need belief in a higher power, because that which created this world, has to be apart from it.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
April 29, 2010 - 10:35 AM
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We need a philosophy section on the forum
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
May 4, 2010 - 02:30 PM
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hilobra wrote:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. The above statement credited to Albert Einstein is really thought-provoking. But, is it true? What do you think?
Yes! It is true. Religion is the best way to live on earth. So, without science, understanding the earth and what it contains, whats good and bad for us is impossible. The second part of the statement by Einstein "religion(way we live) without science is blind" implies this.
In spite of all the scientific developments, if the standard of living of the living lot in general is not improved, what else will motivate the people for working on sciences? Science needs the legs of religion ( the way we live) to carry it towards the goal of improvised lives. It makes clear how science is lame without religion.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
May 4, 2010 - 02:36 PM
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Shmo wrote:
Some argue that science has become a religion though (and no, I'm not talking about scientology). I think it's partially true or becoming partially true.
You have a point, Mr Shawn. Modern paganists flourish in the garbs of science and confuse the common man. Hollywood movies carry the message of paganism like in Beowulf, Superman, Spiderman, the Transformers, The Tomb Raider, etc..to qote a few.
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Re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
May 18, 2010 - 11:08 AM
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Science is a religion in our days maybe because there are a new cult of the everything that is NEW is got to be good in our society...
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