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Erick Ochieng Otieno
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Peace in the Middle East
June 27, 2007 - 03:10 AM
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As Prime Minister Tony Blair leaves office soon, it is apparent that he is going to be offered the post of the quartet's peace envoy to the Middle East. This is indeed a positive move. However, the question that now arises is this, is he the most suitable person to be the mediator in the middle east? I think he could be, but still their needs to be a change of tactic for there to be anew thing that Tony Blair can offer. This is reviewing the history of the conflict in the Middle East and noting the fact that however much we want to isolate groups such as Hamas, they will be, whether we like it or not, a part of the peace process. By incorporating them, getting to know the root cause of hatred and addressing these root causes rather than escaping the realities, will Tony Blair succeed in the area that has alluded so many Peace Negotiators.
Good Luck to tony Blair and let us hope that at last there is going to be wider consultation this time before action is taken.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
June 29, 2007 - 10:34 AM
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He is already nominated as International Ambassador to the Middle East.
Truly said, I highly doubt his efficacy in this new position. Being the British PM he had little more to say than the US. And this bias has deep roots now. I dont believe Blair can act independently. One reason is the political agenda of his "bosses" and second is that many countries with whom Blair dealt with before in his power of PM have a certain impression of him, which I dont think can be changed easily, especially considering that not much time passed after his resignation before beign vested with this new power of Ambassadorship.
Abbas and Olmert welcomed his assignment, predictably. Hamas rejected it, also predictably.
Lets nonetheless hope and see what will happen.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 9, 2007 - 08:17 PM
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Like any of that matters anyway. There'll never be peace thats what people cant understand.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 10, 2007 - 12:03 AM
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violetlovato wrote:
Like any of that matters anyway. There'll never be peace thats what people cant understand.
I know it is dificult to comprehend what we must go through to achieve peace in the middle east. What we need is not understanding but rather appreciation of the fact that we have to try. Who ever thought that we could be having new world order, it is by trying different ways that people get to have success in achieving what is deemed dificult to achieve.
So there could be peace, But we have to do the most radical things for it to come. We have tried fighting, we have tried to talk, but we have not tried one most important thing. Going back to history before theb 1967 WAR.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 10, 2007 - 02:19 AM
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Bahahahahahaha
*cough*
Yeaass indeed lets go in and steal their leader, who, although he was rather cruel and killed over 5000 people, was actually a brilliant leader. Saddam Hussein raised Iraq to be a recognised country in the world, his plans made the economy boom, their WAS a kind of peace between Shias and Sunni's etc etc etc.
So... Now we take their leader... kill a few more innnocent people and are wondering why people hate the U.S who will never truly be able to clean up the mess they made. Didnt they learn from Vietnam?
Peace... is a dream. Its an interesting concept in theory however, look at it in practice. Human beings want power - the ones that are weak and "dont" are shunned anyway.... Of course mainly because theres got to be a leader of peace and we all want to be leaders and blame everyone but ourselves... So we shall see. Peace is only considerable if there is no war... no fighing... no competition and happy people. No one is ever truly content and there is always competition.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 28, 2007 - 09:09 PM
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While I agree with Violetlovato or whatever her name is, that perfect peace is an impossibility by human nature, I think that the concept itself is one of the most important ones we hold. The want for peace is necessary to improve the world. It has to exist. I think that we as human beings naturally want it to occur and that to say otherwise, or to blatantly believe that it's something not worth pursuing is wrong on every level.
Now to respond to the actual question: Peace in the Middle East is a very vague topic. The Middle East is such a diverse place, with a lot of views and different situations ranging from one country to another. The problems in Palestine and Israel exist for entirely different reasons than the problems in Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. I guess that there is no single answer to any of the problems. What area SPECIFICALLY do you want to talk about?
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 29, 2007 - 05:13 AM
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4portswitch wrote:
While I agree with Violetlovato or whatever her name is, that perfect peace is an impossibility by human nature, I think that the concept itself is one of the most important ones we hold. The want for peace is necessary to improve the world. It has to exist. I think that we as human beings naturally want it to occur and that to say otherwise, or to blatantly believe that it's something not worth pursuing is wrong on every level.
Now to respond to the actual question: Peace in the Middle East is a very vague topic. The Middle East is such a diverse place, with a lot of views and different situations ranging from one country to another. The problems in Palestine and Israel exist for entirely different reasons than the problems in Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. I guess that there is no single answer to any of the problems. What area SPECIFICALLY do you want to talk about?
Hi, I understand what you are saying. Maybe we should look for solutions from different perspectives depending on the area of interest. However, their still some relationship to the whole case of the middle east as there will be those who will use the excuse from the chaos in one region to serve their interst in another region. But coming to your main concern, let us hear what you have to say on the topic based on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Bye
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 29, 2007 - 09:36 PM
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Well, regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, I think we all can agree that the issue stems from the formation of Israel. Certain injustices occurred at the time that maybe shouldn't have taken place. The fact of the matter is that Israel exists today and I think that to try and deny its existence as a country, or support its absolute abolishment is radical and unrealistic, if not just plain impossible. So, what we must do is try and find a current issue, one that is more realistic, one that may actually have an achievable solution. I think that this problem lies in Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Essentially, Israel controls Palestinian trade in or out of the country, they suffocate travel, they control what locations the people can and cannot occupy or farm. They control water flow to the country, electricity flow to the country; they in essence control everything. In addition, the illegal and unethical wall they're building literally divides parts of Palestine in half, annexing portions of Palestinian territory and spreading the general sense of "suffocation" throughout the country. The obvious repercussions of this is that Palestine cannot function as a country. It can not become self-governing and independent.
But I don't mean to heap all of the blame on the Israeli side; the Palestinian leaders are just as corrupt as in any other region of the world, but all the same, the occupation needs to stop.
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Re: Peace in the Middle East
August 29, 2007 - 09:37 PM
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(I had more to say hehe) Once that's accomplished, we must deal with the issue of the settlements Israel has so strategically placed throughout the Westbank. I don't think it's right for us to force them to leave, but neither can they continue to exist under the same circumstances. The answer to that would be key a lot of problems.
Another issue, and this is the root of almost all "terrorism" in the US, is the United State's involvement with Israel. We give 3 billion dollars a year with absolutely no strings attached and no representative to control where those funds are spent.
And then there's the radicalism that exists... on both sides. I don't think we can ever get rid of all the radicals, they will always exist, what we must do is remove their fuel. How we do this, I'm not really sure. So, I guess my answer is that I understand the issues taking place completely but the problems are so complex and sensitive that I'm still grasping in the dark for the solutions. Any ideas? Oh yeah, sorry about writing so much 
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