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Sean Amos
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Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 20, 2007 - 03:02 AM
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Such mutilations should be banned as they are nothing more than aggression against women. The problem is very difficult, given its traditional aspect.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 20, 2007 - 03:03 PM
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it's really tricky. because of our western minds, we say it is wrong. but western mentality is not the ultimate right.
most of the female circumcision is supported by the woman who practice it, and they are the ones who even do the operation.
many of the woman believe that an uncircumcised genital is very unnattractive. just as many believe that uncircumcised male genitalia is unnattractive.
it's a difficult issue.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 20, 2007 - 06:20 PM
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Seanamo wrote:
Such mutilations should be banned as they are nothing more than aggression against women. The problem is very difficult, given its traditional aspect.
I'm with you on that Sean..Ban it.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 21, 2007 - 03:19 AM
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Africhika.......This is where education and civil education comes in...most of the circumcisers are illiterate and dont know the dangers of FGM.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 22, 2007 - 08:49 AM
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It doesnt necessary mean not able to speak English, but to get to know the dangers and results of FGM. What they make women go through is unforgivable and cruel and no matter what culture dictates, its an unfortunate act that deserves to be condemned at all costs.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 22, 2007 - 09:46 AM
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okay. becuz when people use the term "illiterate," they mean non-english speaking. and that's not fair.
there are 3 types of female circumcision that vary by degrees: clitoridectomy, excision, infibulation. infibulation is the most severe, causing great damage and pain. clitoridectomy is the "mildest" form, similar to a male circumcision.
i believe the term "mutilation" is highly judgemental and western-centric. what some call mutilation, the partakers call beautification. all around the world, there are practices that some may call beautification and others call mutilation? what about plastic surgery? isn't that the same thing??
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 22, 2007 - 10:49 AM
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Chika am still confused about what you are studing,You sound more like a Legal practitioner other than a journalist ok.
In our native english way we regard beautification as mutilation and the westerners calls it Beautification.
And i dont see any thing wrong in practicing it coz itz been in existence for ages and has no bad effect on the people practicing it .
I agree with you in terms of the word 'illitatrate' when you dont know how to read english and write english you'll be regarded as an illitrate ,But what do they call you when you dont know how to read and write your native language?.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 23, 2007 - 01:42 AM
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I'm not twisted or anything, but look at it in a different light. In places with rising populations that are bound to only get larger -- it's a solution to maintain or decrease population. Sure, it's not the best answer, but it is an answer that doesn't involve actual KILLING. I can understand why people would do it or governments would allow it.
And, yeah, I can't imagine what it must be like -- I would rather die so I don't know what's better?
And let's not just focus on the women here. Of course its a little more severe of an issue when it is regarding the women, and being a young woman myself, I am concerned about such an extremity but let's not forget male curcumsicion -- it's MORE common. What are your thoughts on that? It is just and should IT be banished too? I mean, in most places, it isn't the WOMEN that are allowing population rises but men and their... um... uncontrollable "guns"  ...
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 23, 2007 - 01:54 AM
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What is female genital mutilation?
Female genital mutilation (FGM), often referred to as 'female circumcision', comprises all procedures involving partial or total removal of the external female genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs whether for cultural, religious or other non-therapeutic reasons. There are different types of female genital mutilation known to be practised today. They include:
Type I - excision of the prepuce, with or without excision of part or all of the clitoris;
Type II - excision of the clitoris with partial or total excision of the labia minora;
Type III - excision of part or all of the external genitalia and stitching/narrowing of the vaginal opening (infibulation);
Type IV - pricking, piercing or incising of the clitoris and/or labia; stretching of the clitoris and/or labia; cauterization by burning of the clitoris and surrounding tissue;
scraping of tissue surrounding the vaginal orifice (angurya cuts) or cutting of the vagina (gishiri cuts);
introduction of corrosive substances or herbs into the vagina to cause bleeding or for the purpose of tightening or narrowing it; and any other procedure that falls under the definition given above.
The most common type of female genital mutilation is excision of the clitoris and the labia minora, accounting for up to 80% of all cases; the most extreme form is infibulation, which constitutes about 15% of all procedures.
Health consequences of FGM
The immediate and long-term health consequences of female genital mutilation vary according to the type and severity of the procedure performed.
Immediate complications include severe pain, shock, haemorrhage, urine retention, ulceration of the genital region and injury to adjacent tissue. Haemorrhage and infection can cause death.
More recently, concern has arisen about possible transmission of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) due to the use of one instrument in multiple operations, but this has not been the subject of detailed research.
Long-term consequences include cysts and abscesses, keloid scar formation, damage to the urethra resulting in urinary incontinence, dyspareunia (painful sexual intercourse) and sexual dysfunction and difficulties with childbirth.
Psychosexual and psychological health: Genital mutilation may leave a lasting mark on the life and mind of the woman who has undergone it. In the longer term, women may suffer feelings of incompleteness, anxiety and depression.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 23, 2007 - 01:58 AM
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ouch!? 
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 23, 2007 - 02:05 AM
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I just wanted to show the seriousness of FGM. For male circumsion its the best thing to happen to men, since it reduces risks of getting STDs or other infections.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 26, 2007 - 10:28 AM
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lol no.. i'm not saying i'm for it.. not at ALL.. i also agree its a serious situation but in order to look for solutions to an issue, you have to (realistically) look at the issues from various perspectives. Especially, how the people promoting it may be looking at it or justify their promotions.
This post was edited on: 2007-04-26 at 10:29 AM by: sk007
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 26, 2007 - 11:10 AM
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I agree with Africhika on the point about women who practice it supporting it and thereby making it difficult. It is a rite of passage in many communities including my own through which a girl feels she has stopped being a child and is now a woman. It's impossible to predict whether just banning an age old custom will be effective enough to stop it. We must first provide acceptable options. I saw this thread by someone else and mentioned what some good people are doing in maasailand in Kenya-circumcision is being phased out by an alternative rite of passage that has been accepted by the community. Everyone is happy, the girls feel they have ascended a higher rank to be women, and the community accepts them.
And you may not believe it but to those who practice it, FGM sounds nothing like what you make it sound like(especially that part about corrosive chemicals It is a rite of passage and whoever doesn't go through it is an outcast. Period.Try telling an 10yr old from my home area that she may have trouble bearing children in future and she'll laugh at you if the other option is that she's going be an outcast for the rest of her life.
Getting those involved to stand up and reject the risks they expose their daughters, by empowering women, might do more good than just passing a official decree that FGM has been banned.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 27, 2007 - 11:16 PM
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Africans, I demand that you stop this at once! America worked hard for its top spot in the worldwide ranking of hatred and disgust, and if we lose that title to Kenya just because they're more creative at creating destructive social memes I don't know what I'll do. I mean, seriously, how are we supposed to top shunning all females who don't have their clitoris cut off? That right there is equal to an awful lot of SUV worshipers or Bush voters. Sigh.
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Re: Female Genital Mutilation...What's your take?
April 28, 2007 - 09:56 AM
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Simpirre...i believe alternate rites of passage are the best than trying to completely erase an old age custom but on the other hand like i always insist, we must insist on education which really opens a child's mind to all this customs and how they affect their lives adversely.
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