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Re: [Poll] How safe is studying in an American school?
April 29, 2007 - 05:56 PM

Rohini - Please read my words closely:

"I think it is one of the major barriers in dealing with the issue of poverty the world over these days. Actually, I should have asked my question in the previous post as: "do you think issues like poverty, which is even existant in a country like US, are difficult to overcome due to certain factors, including extreme individualism?" I do not think that the idea of 'wealth creation' through the means of capitalism could succeed in fighting global poverty."

Now first, I did not claim that individualism is THE reason. I am just saying that it has been ONE OF THE major constraints in fighting against social evils like poverty.

Second, I understand that market reforms have helped Indian Economy, but how would you answer the growing rate of inflation and increased number of poor?

Third, I am neither a proponent of Communism nor Capitalism. Flaws in implementing either of these have been prominent throughout modern history.

Lastly, I am just posing some questions here pertaining to a recent act of violence (as it concerns students around the world) and request everyone not to misinterpret my words or take the discussion away from the topic.

Thanks!

This post was edited on: 2007-04-29 at 05:58 PM by: Animesh


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April 29, 2007 - 08:54 PM


Animesh wrote:

Thoughtful indeed, Rschack. How do you think the threat of 'extreme individualism' could be dealt with in a peaceful manner? I see this (extreme individualism) as a significant problem that is severly hampering the course of growth and development around this planet. On second thoughts, do you think issues like poverty, which is even existant in a country like US, are a result of extreme individualism? I think it is very important to deal with such issues, otherwise it will be difficult to prevent such (virginiatech-like) incidents.

This post was edited on: 2007-04-27 at 01:42 PM by: Animesh


"Lastly, I am just posing some questions here pertaining to a recent act of violence (as it concerns students around the world) and request everyone not to misinterpret my words or take the discussion away from the topic."




Hey Animesh,
Am not trying to play Ms Know-all but I don't think poverty has anything to do with the Cho incident. You raised the poverty issue which I felt was a different topic. However, poverty does play a role in other non-student type violence (the kind we have in India-Pak).

"Now first, I did not claim that individualism is THE reason. I am just saying that it has been ONE OF THE major constraints in fighting against social evils like poverty.

There's no clear cut answer to this, people have written thesis's on this topic.

Second, I understand that market reforms have helped Indian Economy, but how would you answer the growing rate of inflation and increased number of poor?"

A moderate inflation rate is good and is inevitable for an economy like India which is growing 8% annually. India is trying to integrate with the global economy so the RBI adjusts it from time to time. Don't have the statistics on the poverty rate, but there's been a huge growth in the middle class.


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Re: [Poll] How safe is studying in an American school?
April 29, 2007 - 10:13 PM

Rohini-

I apologize if I misread what you wrote but it is hard for me to see optimism when you say that mental health services won't help and that only good homes can prevent mental illness.

I also am a bit unsure where you are getting at that I gave up hope on any issue. If anything, my whole post was about how you shouldn't give up hope because people can be rehabilitated no matter what life obstacles they've had to overcome. If I didn't believe in this, I certainly wouldn't be a social worker. Without almost perpetual hope, we have no purpose in this field.


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April 30, 2007 - 06:39 AM


rschack wrote:

Rohini-

I apologize if I misread what you wrote but it is hard for me to see optimism when you say that mental health services won't help and that only good homes can prevent mental illness.

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Family solutions are a much better option than rehab or other facilities. Its just something I felt should be emphasized to parents. Does not mean MH services won't help. Apologies if you felt am suggesting so. Our differing views stem from different cultures. Let us agree to disagree if you wish.


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Re: [Poll] How safe is studying in an American school?
April 30, 2007 - 02:39 PM


Animesh wrote:

True, Rschack. I agree with you on the fact that not having a 'loving' home doesn't always make a killer.

Wvanbokk - I also think that the problem of isolation in the contemporary era needs to be taken care of. But, don't you think 'isolation' is, in part, an outcome of extreme individualistic tendencies?

Rohini - Social environment does influence the course of an economy and I am not convinced that "the term “extreme individualism” takes on a different meaning altogether". I think it is one of the major barriers in dealing with the issue of poverty the world over these days. Actually, I should have asked my question in the previous post as: "do you think issues like poverty, which is even existant in a country like US, are difficult to overcome due to certain factors, including extreme individualism?" I do not think that the idea of 'wealth creation' through the means of capitalism could succeed in fighting global poverty.

Coming back to the original issue, I think that the increased risk of isolation is indeed a major threat that can result in violent incidents. The fact presented by Drama-Queen makes us realize that violence is not confined to the US schools alone. I honestly had no clue about the situation in South African schools before reading Drama Queen's post. I am a little surprized why media does not want to tell people about such occurances.

I think I have some more questions now:

Any comments on the role of media in depicting incidents like virginia-tech?

Do you think that it influences the outlook of students and parents about going to school?

How does one deal with the security issue in schools?


I suppose you're right. Somebody who was extremely self-centered would become isolated by their community, so they're complimentary forces.


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Re: [Poll] How safe is studying in an American school?
June 23, 2008 - 04:04 PM

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------its only a couple of kids who got bullied. not everyone in america is like that. in fact most are too scared to talk about guns because they'll get in trouble by doing it. but i do agree that guns should be banned in every place except maybe the army. even though i'm against war.


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Re: [Poll] How safe is studying in an American school?
June 24, 2008 - 03:30 AM

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You are right about the increases of shootouts in US schools. What major problem that i saw is most youngsters has depressions. The pressure that they face like lots of bills to pay and beside doing studies this itself cause to increase the risks.


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