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al-kafir
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The Genocide Continues In Darfur
March 30, 2007 - 06:55 PM
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Arabs Rebuff Ban's Plan To Aid Darfur.
http://www.nysun.com/article/51417?page_no=1
UNITED NATIONS — Secretary-General Ban's attempt this week to marshal international help for Darfur victims suffered serious setbacks as an Arab League summit in Riyadh, as well as at the U.N.'s own Human Rights Council, declined to exert any pressure on Khartoum.
Mr. Ban, who visited the Arab League summit in Riyadh yesterday, told Arab heads of state that he expected support for a U.N. plan to send 20,000 troops to Darfur, where according to America, genocide is taking place.
The summit's host, Saudi Arabia, mostly promoted issues such as a five-year-old plan for resolving the Palestinian Arab dispute with Israel, and the revival of a decades-old Arab military cooperation pact. Little interest was shown for Darfur. Another Arab League member, Egypt, declined earlier this week to join Mr. Ban in pressuring neighboring Sudan.
Telling Arab leaders that they could play a positive role in leaning on Khartoum, Mr. Ban said yesterday that the U.N. plan to start deploying peacekeepers in Darfur "should go ahead expeditiously."
Sorry, Mr. Secretary-General but the islamist jihad must go on. This is about money, power, land and the expansion of Arab/Moslem imperialism.
It is beyond the bounds of reason and ethics why the United States, or any other free nation, belongs to this corrupt, disgraceful mockery of international justice.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
March 31, 2007 - 02:57 AM
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The international community should be ashamed for just watching this genocide in Darfur.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
March 31, 2007 - 05:35 AM
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I said in an earlier post, we need to pressure African countries to respond more to the Darfur genocide. Africans need to start thinking of solving African problems. We need to stop looking at developed countries for help.
I can assure you, if there is oil in the darfur region, Sudan will have all the help in the world, even a military take over, if possible from big brother USA
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 3, 2007 - 07:10 PM
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Why is USA very silent about this genocide?
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 4, 2007 - 01:58 AM
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I am quoting a Human Rights Watch article
The United States and Darfur
In 1994, the Clinton administration initially used fine semantic distinctions to avoid calling the genocide in Rwanda by its true name—and it led the Security Council coalition against intervention. In 2004, the Bush Administration was the first and only Security Council member to declare that the abuses committed in Darfur constituted genocide—and it initially led the push for the Security Council to act. But U.S. leadership on Darfur was a mixed blessing.
In 2001-2002, the Bush administration had made ending the Sudanese civil war one of its top foreign policy priorities in Africa. Correctly or not, many observers believe it did so mainly because of pressure from conservative religious activists who have long campaigned against Khartoum’s Islamist government for its gross human rights abuses in the non-Muslim south. When the rebel attacks and government counter-offensive began in Darfur, Washington was among those governments that were reluctant to criticize Khartoum for fear that doing so might derail the North-South peace initiative. On April 7, 2004, however, with a bipartisan handful of U.S. Congressmen calling for sanctions, President Bush condemned the “atrocities” in Sudan. In midsummer, Secretary of State Colin Powell traveled to Darfur. Then, on September 9, 2004, Secretary Powell told the U.S. Congress that the State Department had concluded that genocide had been committed and that the Sudanese government and the Janjaweed bore responsibility.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 4, 2007 - 01:58 AM
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CONTD - Amnesty article
However, the fact that the Bush administration was waging a globally unpopular war in Iraq without a U.N. mandate, inevitably affected how other U.N. member states responded, particularly once the graphic images of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib were broadcast around the world. Khartoum seized the opportunity by portraying U.S. accusations on Darfur as part of a global American assault on Islam and Arabs. But the most disturbing aspect of U.S. policy toward Darfur is the striking inconsistency between Secretary of State Powell’s finding in September 2004 that the government of Sudan and the Janjaweed had committed genocide and the administration’s apparent decision in November 2004 to return to its earlier policy of trying to use carrots to induce Khartoum to sign the Naivasha accords. It was that shift, and not just the threat of a Chinese veto, that was responsible for the Security Council’s failure to even debate the need to take stronger action to halt continuing human rights abuses in Darfur.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 12:28 AM
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err, where is Al Kafir ? 
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 11:26 AM
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al-kafir wrote:
udara2004 wrote:
err, where is Al Kafir ? *
I'm right here.
The question remains firmly unanswered. Why is the moslem genocide and mass murder in Darfur not addressed by by Moslem nations?
Plain and simple, my dear friend.
The AU (African Union) forces of around 7000 peacekeeprs and staff are in Darfur a region the size of France, too big for such a tiny force to administer and control. African Union consists, among others, of many African Muslims countries.
Problem is that historically, at least tracing back to last several centuries, Muslims and Arab countries have never been united on any issue, including the infamous case of the birth of Israel, where they tried and failed to coordinate an united front and approach to repel vastly inferiour Jewish forces.
And these differences among Muslims states are not only due to their Shia or Sunni adherance but are also due to their relations with the US etc.
And no, this is not to be apologetical towards Muslim states. This is only to give you some prespective.
This post was edited on: 2007-04-05 at 11:27 AM by: elemental
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 12:25 PM
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al-kafir wrote:
udara2004 wrote:
err, where is Al Kafir ? *
I'm right here.
The question remains firmly unanswered. Why is the moslem genocide and mass murder in Darfur not addressed by by Moslem nations?
I agree that it had not been and it will never be answered by the muslim world. But the so called crusaders of human rights like USA having a hypocrisical policy too is highly disturbing.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 01:27 PM
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al-kafir wrote
Why is the Moslem world allowing this to happen?
Muslim world????
is there something like that?
I do not wish to deviate from the discussion but at the same , terminologies like 'muslim world' , 'christian world' 'western world' etc never fail to baffle me....esp coming from educated people.
I like this article by Amartya Sen in the New York Times where he reflects on such senseless divisions.
A World Not Neatly Divided
By AMARTYA SEN
[iC]AMBRIDGE, England -- When people talk about clashing civilizations, as so many politicians and academics do now, they can sometimes miss the central issue. The inadequacy of this thesis begins well before we get to the question of whether civilizations must clash. The basic weakness of the theory lies in its program of categorizing people of the world according to a unique, allegedly commanding system of classification. This is problematic because civilizational categories are crude and inconsistent and also because there are other ways of seeing people (linked to politics, language, literature, class, occupation or other affiliations).
The befuddling influence of a singular classification also traps those who dispute the thesis of a clash: To talk about "the Islamic world" or "the Western world" is already to adopt an impoverished vision of humanity as unalterably divided. In fact, civilizations are hard to partition in this way, given the diversities within each society as well as the linkages among different countries and cultures. For example, describing India as a "Hindu civilization" misses the fact that India has more Muslims than any other country except Indonesia and possibly Pakistan. It is futile to try to understand Indian art, literature, music, food or politics without seeing the extensive interactions across barriers of religious communities. These include Hindus and Muslims, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, Parsees, Christians (who have been in India since at least the fourth century, well before England's conversion to Christianity), Jews (present since the fall of Jerusalem), and even atheists and agnostics. Sanskrit has a larger atheistic literature than exists in any other classical language. Speaking of India as a Hindu civilization may be comforting to the Hindu fundamentalist, but it is an odd reading of India.
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read on...................
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 03:01 PM
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The UN should step up fast to deal with this crime against hunmanity.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 03:19 PM
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"Why is USA very silent about this genocide?"
Udara - I think the real question is why do feel the need to constantly blame the US for everything.
No country in the world has been MORE vocal on this issue - no country is pushing harder for the insertion of UN peacekeepers at the Security Council
and in fact the US government - yes the hated Bush administraition - was the FIRST government to label this a "Genocide"
THe US government already has sanctions on the Sudanese government -
CHINA is the one funding and arming Sudan -
Honestly I just find you critisim very meaningless when you have this knee-jerk reaction to blame to US.
what is happening in the Sudan is not the US's fault -
if you want to lay it on the doorstep of any government besides Sudan - it is China.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 03:22 PM
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the real point here Udara - is that your bias is showing VERY clearly - HERE is an occassion when you should be chastising Muslims governments, the Arab league, Russia and especially China - who are supporting the regieme and blocking UN action.
and instead you are whining about the US - you'll critisize them for anything - a bird falls out of the sky and you'll find some way that its the US's fault.
don't you reolize that your critisisms of the US would carry much more weight if instead of blaming them for every problem under the sun you actually only critisized them for the matters that are their fault -
- and were critisized other countries when they deserved it.
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 03:23 PM
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Everybody knows that I am far from being any fan of the Bush Administration, but here I agree with my friend Luke regarding the Sudan case.
Arslan
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Re: The Genocide Continues In Darfur
April 5, 2007 - 06:34 PM
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There’s been some progress made by Arabs and their colonialist designs for Africa. The mass murdering hordes are on the march.
Officials: Janjaweed kill 65 in Chad
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070403/ap_on_re_af/chad_fighting
N'DJAMENA, Chad - Janjaweed militia attacked two Chadian villages in the volatile southeastern border region close to Sudan, torching houses, randomly shooting those who fled and killing at least 65 people, officials said Tuesday.
Survivors, 2,000 of whom arrived at a refugee camp about 30 miles from their villages, told aid workers that they were attacked by men on horseback, camel-back and in vehicles with heavy weaponry, the U.N. refugee agency said.
The attackers encircled the villages and opened fire, pursuing fleeing villagers, robbing women and shooting the men, many of whom are feared dead, the U.N. agency said in a statement. Corpses were decaying fast because of the heat and would be buried in a common grave, the U.N. said.
Another episode in the continuing assault on humanity being waged by islam's holy warriors™
This is what happens when decent people do nothing in the face of evil. It's what has always happened, over and over again throughout mankind's history.
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