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Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
March 24, 2007 - 06:55 PM
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how can ethnic cleansing be prevented??
ethnic cleansing starts way before the actually killing. it starts when ethnic groups dislike and stereotype each other. how can these ethnic conflicts be stopped??
remember the mass genocide that occurred in the Balkans? Look what happened in Rwanda with the Hutu and the Tutsi where hundreds of thousands perished. Look at what's happening now in Sudan.
Where i come from, Nigeria, ethnic gorups stereotype and distrust each other. and the stereotypes are deep in the cultural foundation.
how can we, the youth generation, prevent such ethnic conflicts? how can we teach the older generations to rid themselves of ridiculous stereotypes?
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
March 25, 2007 - 03:31 PM
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I really have no clue how ethnic clensing can be prevented besides: cultural tolerance, accepting differeces not destroying them, neo colonialism (really a friend of creating artificial differnces), opression, freedom of speech and really accepting that we are all of the HUMAN KIND and not sorted out by religion, race or whatever the reasons may be for killing someone who can be you neighbour...
Genocide and ethnic cleansing are deeply rooted in culture, the need for "purity" (take for example cultural probitions or taboos) taken to the extreme.
I don´t know the answers to this problem all I can say is that we are all humans, we have our differences but we all can get along. Violence is a tool for people who do not want to reason anymore, so they force others or just kill them.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
March 26, 2007 - 08:15 AM
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I know some story of "ethnic clearnsing" from Rwanda and Former Yugoslavia have done terrible things. I believe people like you and me don't like this king genocide and kill.
Around the world, however, there are still lots of human rights violation, discrimination against ethnic minority groups and gender.
Only you or me couldn't bring thing change but with who believe in human rights and equality integration and cooperation, we could over come this in the future one day.
Africhika wrote:
how can ethnic cleansing be prevented??
ethnic cleansing starts way before the actually killing. it starts when ethnic groups dislike and stereotype each other. how can these ethnic conflicts be stopped??
remember the mass genocide that occurred in the Balkans? Look what happened in Rwanda with the Hutu and the Tutsi where hundreds of thousands perished. Look at what's happening now in Sudan.
Where i come from, Nigeria, ethnic gorups stereotype and distrust each other. and the stereotypes are deep in the cultural foundation.
how can we, the youth generation, prevent such ethnic conflicts? how can we teach the older generations to rid themselves of ridiculous stereotypes?
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
March 26, 2007 - 06:00 PM
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cynexx wrote:
I really have no clue how ethnic clensing can be prevented besides: cultural tolerance, accepting differeces not destroying them, neo colonialism (really a friend of creating artificial differnces), opression, freedom of speech and really accepting that we are all of the HUMAN KIND and not sorted out by religion, race or whatever the reasons may be for killing someone who can be you neighbour...
Genocide and ethnic cleansing are deeply rooted in culture, the need for "purity" (take for example cultural probitions or taboos) taken to the extreme.
I don´t know the answers to this problem all I can say is that we are all humans, we have our differences but we all can get along. Violence is a tool for people who do not want to reason anymore, so they force others or just kill them.
Nothing else to add, this post says everything. Beautiful. The only thing I could add is that stereotypes are a natural way of understanding the world, but the line between stereotype and discrimination is so, so thin, that it is almost impossible not to cross it. It demands all our conscient efforts. But conscience, I believe, is growing slow but steady in youngsters minds. Our challenge now is to keep the development of this good ideas going on and to pass them to the next generations. To remember, never to forget is the only way to never live again what was sadly lived before. 
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
May 19, 2007 - 07:20 AM
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i wrote a little text about ethnic group on my tig blog
they are not as important as we think...
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 2, 2007 - 03:56 PM
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This is 1 main issue that disturbs and affects the unity and growth in a nation.
Nigeria is 1 nation suffering from this ailment which i think itz does not have a cure unless we split.
Break up thatz just it.
In da case of hutus and totsi's in Rwanda men i think they need to seat on a round table and delibrate on there problems ok.
But i think its high time we take every 1 as God took us ok .God does not know whether u r igbo ,yoruba or hausa and he Deos not know whether u are totsi or hutu so we should try and show brotherly luv to every body .
I think that would minimise if not eradicate that form of ethnic cleasing in us.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 4, 2007 - 06:44 AM
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This is a serious issue even here in Kenya, especially where one tribe has ruled for a long time and nepotism prevails in public office posts. I believe the young people have done a great deal in eradicating the issue, since most of them have studied together, work and even date.
They see no problem in interacting with the other tribes. But the ruling elite stokes the tribal fire and that's why i am saying we have a long way to go. Most of this politicians want to stay in power for a long time and they need a majority of voters and what better way than to approach the larger tribes. Its disheartening and sometimes futile.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 10, 2007 - 02:23 AM
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Historically, the only solid, apparently effective method to end ethic cleaning was to divide the people in conflict, like how NATO stepped into Yugoslavia and pulled the fighting ethnic groups apart. Similarly when India became independent, Pakistan was made a separate country to accommodate the two different religions who couldn't stand each other.
We all wish there could be actual, genuine peace and mutual understanding and respect established between different ethnic groups within the same borders, but ethnic cleansing has deep roots and ancient origins that seemed to stubbornly planted into humanity. And this ideology could only be fueled by strong nationalism and social Darwinism that has shown themselves in sparking world wars and mass genocides, and are ever present in our daily lives.
The immediate step to stop ethnic cleansing would be separation and quarantine, but to relinquish it from the face of the earth would take time and effort and will for hatred to be dissolved in empathy and respect, and for people to realize that we're all really just the same.
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June 11, 2007 - 02:38 AM
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I understand that separating the communities has worked in some countries but am thinking of a country like Kenya where there are more than 40 tribes. Some communties are more economically endowed than others due to their sheer hardwork and commitment. So if the separation was to happen then some communities would be economically stable than others.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 16, 2007 - 09:15 PM
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the indigenous ppl of 'north america' were ethinically cleansed in order for canada and the US to exist but that is often ignored. both are illigitimate states(but i guess most, if not all, countries are). here's a small list of what the indigneous endured: forced sterilization(international law states it is an act of genocide to prevent the births of children of a specific group) , residential schools(under international law it is an act of genocide to target the children of a specific group), the indian act(canada), blankets infected with small pox, massacres(money was even paid for the scalp of an 'indian'), the reserve system(the model for the S.African apartied!), alcohol, the 'justice system'(natives make up 2% of the population in canada but 40-60% of the prison populations across the country), environmental racism, the list goes on!
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the Dine Nation(Navaho) is the most bombed nation in the world ver 600 nuclear tests conducted on an indian reserve in arizona. read ward churhill ' a little matter of genocide'.
and 'from a native son:selected essays on indigenism'.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 18, 2007 - 07:10 AM
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mikej wrote:
the indigenous ppl of 'north america' were ethinically cleansed in order for canada and the US to exist but that is often ignored. both are illigitimate states(but i guess most, if not all, countries are). here's a small list of what the indigneous endured: forced sterilization(international law states it is an act of genocide to prevent the births of children of a specific group) , residential schools(under international law it is an act of genocide to target the children of a specific group), the indian act(canada), blankets infected with small pox, massacres(money was even paid for the scalp of an 'indian'), the reserve system(the model for the S.African apartied!), alcohol, the 'justice system'(natives make up 2% of the population in canada but 40-60% of the prison populations across the country), environmental racism, the list goes on!
fact:
the Dine Nation(Navaho) is the most bombed nation in the world*ver 600 nuclear tests conducted on an indian reserve in arizona. read ward churhill ' a little matter of genocide'.
and 'from a native son:selected essays on indigenism'.
There is an excellent book by David Stannard called "American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World." Bokk elucidates many details of the how American indigenous peopel have been driven out of their lands, turf wars and much more importantly the pretext used by settlers..
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June 24, 2007 - 11:33 AM
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i think that any nation that seems headed towards ethenic cleansing should immediatly have tolerance programs instituted. schools especially are the place to encourage tollerance. we should mix the groups on the verge of ethnic cleansing when they are too young to care about politics or ethnic differences and just want to play and learn together. when different people live together, much of the time they grow to see more similarities than differences in each other and to accept and embrace those differences that are still there. adults, while they tend to be more set in their ways, should also be reached out to. discussions should be held for those who are interested in peace where each group can talk about their veiws and why they feel that way. people need to hear all sides and openions and meet people who are diferent in order to understand that different is just different, it isn't wrong. we need to combine people as often as possible and unite them towards common goals. everyone needs to learn to celebrate differences. poeple are the same in one aspect--they all have differences. we just need to realize that.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 26, 2007 - 06:54 PM
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i think we all know the theories: love one another. but in reality, this isn't the case. i wonder how we can teach people to practicalize love.
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June 27, 2007 - 01:51 AM
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how do we practicalize love...that is something to think about! the truth of the matter is love is not something to be acquired in a day it is something learned over time. we grown into love not just pick it up..that would be infatuation. we must learn to love in order to practicalize it. we must teach it to our children during the formative years for love must be practiced to become part of our daily routine. a little community service is not practical love..it is a tug on your humanity that pushes you to help your suffering neighbour...practical love would be raising your children and those on whom you have influence, with the view that they do not want any one regadless of their cultural difference to undergo suffering if they can be of assistance.
practical love i like that. our leaders could do with a bit more practical love.
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Re: Ethnic Cleansing (UGGH!!)
June 27, 2007 - 11:40 AM
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It's a big problem in Russia. We live near each other and this problem makes me not to go to this wonderful country. with my asian appearance I probably will be killed there. I think that there r special organizations such as sects which takes a little babies and bring up such crazy scinheads. It sounds strange but I am sure they exist.
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