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Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 24, 2007 - 09:30 AM

Well, my thread is like It's like poll but I really would love to hear your voice accordingly your reply...

Actually, in such a website ( even its name and meaning includes globalisation) It could be difficult ( or not?) to hear that globalisation is BAD, because Glob. carries defficiencies with itself? economic difficulties? strict and seen unequalities...


But to be short for the first say, I just want to say that;

I think globalisation is good for HUman rights. Because globalisation is what let me see what's going on in the other side of the world and give me chance to reach! ( even If It's not easy or common... I have that chnace..)

what you think?
maybe these issues are not that simple as we thought?

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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 24, 2007 - 06:40 PM

this is a great question.

there are so many factors in globalization and though it has it's negatives, i think globalization can ultilmately help human rights. human rights advocacy needs communication and the disbursement of info. globalization definitely spreads info with increased technology.

the major negative with globalization is that, it's being led by western nations. and the western nations are pushing their culture on other indigenous, non-western cultures around the world.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 25, 2007 - 04:58 AM

Thanks for your nice response.. And I als agree with you. But there is another point as well...

Some people think that "human right" concept is also western concept. And they satrt to discuss about the "universality "of Human rights...

but in any how; ıf human rights is universal ( and I think yes; human is universally human)

what you think?


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 25, 2007 - 09:03 AM


Ceren wrote:

Thanks for your nice response.. And I als agree with you. But there is another point as well...

Some people think that "human right" concept is also western concept. And they satrt to discuss about the "universality "of Human rights...

but in any how; ıf human rights is universal ( and I think yes; human is universally human)

what you think?


i believe globalisation if better for Human rights, but mostly it depends on the use of different states. to give example it is better that world is taking care of the issue of human rights in afghanistan but the way they used the women rights as a propaganda against the taliban reigme was against the human rights.

so globalisation is good thing. let the world know what is going on in other part of the world.

human rights, were said to be western concept, but upon my study i came to know that only three statements(not even articles, but a small statement in those articles) could be consdiered un-islamic, so they are very much in conformity with islam. i can give details of that on demand.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 25, 2007 - 09:10 AM

In terms of human rights the only major thing that globalisation would contribute to is to spread awareness and information about human rights violations or, on contrary, examplary cases.

How this information, whether detrimental or advantageous, can be used relative to human rights in a specific country is another question.

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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
March 27, 2007 - 02:40 PM

Globalisation is good, no doubt.
Information is key, isnt it?
Information is the way forward, its hope, soo sure, globalisation is the gate way to effective propagation of adequate awareness, messages, etc.


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March 28, 2007 - 04:43 AM

the three problems which i mentioned earlier are:
art. 16 (1) says that all can marry with any differne of religion, but Islam prohibts marriage of a muslim girl with a non-muslim man.

art. 18 allows freeom of changing the religion, islam says no body is allowed to change the religoin on his whim. but no body could be compelled in any way to enter islam, so freedom to chose the religion of islam is available but to get out of it is not available to any muslim.

art. 25 (2) children born of wedlock or out of it will enjoy same social protection. but this is against the UDHR itself. once it said in art. 16(3) family is to be protected by society and state, then how it could give both an equal status? how they allow gay and lesbian marriages? so west is contradicting the provisions of UDHR itself! those born out of wedlock in islam will not have have the same status.

the freedom of thought and expression is not absolutely allowed, but certain conditions are laid down. we have five purposes of islamic law, protection of religion, prot. of life, pro. of property, prot. of progery (off spring), and prot. of intellect. so research, expression and all intellectual activities are allowed but mustnt harm the first four purposes. when harm to religion comes muslims have to stop thier mind and intellect at that point.

more than these provsions, no conradiction could be found with any islamic law.


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March 28, 2007 - 04:48 AM

i agree with mnopq, but even in that case we cant say that the fault was in system (globalization), such as some muslims use islam for their own made ideas, so problem is not in islam but in those guys, the same is true in this case, the users are to be blamed.

in the current situation, when the world is a global village, if one user is not pious in his job, some will certainly come out and say the truth:
*abu ghuraib prison scandel
* german soldiers killing taliban and burning them, shown by austrlian media
* guantanamo issues ...and many more

so nothing could be hidden for long! this is the benefit of media and globalzation despite the fact tha the whole world will not work sincerey for a cause, but still something will come out in favor of Human rights.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 2, 2007 - 12:24 AM


Ceren wrote:

Well, my thread is like It's like poll but I really would love to hear your voice accordingly your reply...

Actually, in such a website ( even its name and meaning includes globalisation) It could be difficult ( or not?) to hear that globalisation is BAD, because Glob. carries defficiencies with itself? economic difficulties? strict and seen unequalities...


But to be short for the first say, I just want to say that;

I think globalisation is good for HUman rights. Because globalisation is what let me see what's going on in the other side of the world and give me chance to reach! ( even If It's not easy or common... I have that chnace..)

what you think?
maybe these issues are not that simple as we thought?


Its a long-term bonus, but I don't think being able to talk to others outside our nation is going to be the best thing.

You see, there's this pattern to industrialization. The factories start up in one place because labor is cheap, the peons work their way up to an improved standard of living, and the factories close down and open up elsewhere. The factory owners may try to keep their workers in oppressed servitude, but history teaches that such a state of misery is never permanent. The end result is a post-industrial society, which are a definite improvement and as far as we know can remain stable indefinitely. OK, life in the U.S. isn't perfect, but it beats subsistence farming in rural Cambodia.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 4, 2007 - 03:35 AM

It is a fact that we are not all endowed equally.Some are bound to be richer than others. While most countries in Africa have the resources, countries in the West have almost all the technology to exploit it. True, we benefit immensely from this symbiotic relationship but sometimes it becomes a system for oppression. Because these companies play a major role in a poor countries economy, they are able to armtwist the governments to to do what they want at the expense of the (poor)common man. Anyone from Kenya will remember the time when oil prices were hiked sometime last year.Then even after they had stabilized the larger companies wouldn't go lower than 75 shillings for a litre. They went on a profit making spree and the government could do nothing about it but weakly beg and plead with them to lower their prices.
Ultimately though everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage, it just depends on how you weigh the two against each other.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 5, 2007 - 08:58 PM

The real quuestion is what are human rights? How do we define what all human beings deserve.

Most of us could answer that question from a western perspective and there's nothing wrong with that, but does that mean that we will be forcing our beliefs on other cultures with globalisation? And for all westerners talk about basic human rights, does that mean we ourselves fully practice or believe in these rights?

Globalisation can be good or bad for human rights depending on a person's perspective and beliefs.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 6, 2007 - 08:59 AM


Ishtar18 wrote:

The real quuestion is what are human rights? How do we define what all human beings deserve.

Most of us could answer that question from a western perspective and there's nothing wrong with that, but does that mean that we will be forcing our beliefs on other cultures with globalisation? And for all westerners talk about basic human rights, does that mean we ourselves fully practice or believe in these rights?

Globalisation can be good or bad for human rights depending on a person's perspective and beliefs.


this we discussed before, human rights are rights available to every human being inherently, without any differnce from race, color, religion, political or social background's perspective.

human rights are, wiht minor differences, equal to every belief, because they are natural rights with certain exceptions. so every one could accept it.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 6, 2007 - 04:45 PM

Very thoughtful question, the answer is niether yes or no.

Its in the middle of it if you know what i mean.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 27, 2007 - 12:08 PM

i think globalisation and human rights dont naturally go together. I think that globalisation is bad for human rights as not everyone believes in human rights... it is an idea created in the liberal west and was created out of the enlightnement.
In many countries there are non-secular states and there the rules in their holy book may advocate no human rights e.g an example of a human right is the freedom of political expression but in nepal the king is the divine ruler and to oppose him would be to oppose god and so would be bad and so there is no freedom of political expression. So yes gloabisation may be good but to promote western beliefs around the world is a bad thing.
Many many people complain about the war in iraq and how it is a bad thing to try and impose democracy there (which again is another liberal idea) then why is it different to impose human rights on people who might not believe in them. It might be obvious to you that human right are necessary but not for everyone.


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Re: Globalisation is GOOD or BAD for Human Rights?
April 27, 2007 - 12:10 PM

But also human rights arent universal. This is what is key


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