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"300" a jewish conspiracy
March 16, 2007 - 01:38 PM
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"Reporter: Tonight, IRINN commentary also sheds more light on the conspiracy behind the screening of this anti-culture Hollywood film.
Voiceover: Screening of the movie ‘300’ which has depicted war between the Persians and the Greeks, using an unreal and fabricated story, is facing a wave of protests and criticism by Iranians both inside and outside the country. Warner Bros., which belongs to the famous and rich American Jew, is the company that has made the movie. This movie, which is totally against Persian culture and civilization, could be considered a production by Zionists and a group of American extremists. The film ‘300’ shows the historical war between Persians, at the time of King Xerxes, with the Spartans. The director wrongly depicts the Persians as being violent and warmongers. This film is a complete distortion of history. It shows the Spartans, who were warmongers and racists and violent, as peace lovers, and the Persians as uncivilized- which is nothing but a lie. In addition to distortion of history, the Zionist Warner Company is also pursuing cultural and political objectives by producing such a film which has a very shallow script. From the cultural point of view, the Zionists and the elements affiliated to the U.S. have tried to launch a propaganda front against ancient and historical roots of Iranians, and the hasty production of this film is an indication of its propaganda aspect. But political intentions of Warner have been more important than anything else. This film tries to paint a violent image of Persians who are against peace in today’s world, in order to increase the international political pressure on Iran. This is while films should be made of crimes committed by the Americans, throughout history, all around the world, and it should be shown what the so-called civilized Zionists and Americans are doing today with human rights and humanity."
http://www.judeoscope.ca/article.php3?id_article=0555
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 16, 2007 - 01:48 PM
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this is some pretty paranoid stuff.
we can start with the fact that Warner Brother Studios is owned by Time Warner -
and Time Warner is run by C.E.O. Richard Parsons - a black man.
the actual Warner Borthers were Jewish - but they have been deceased for some time and they ran the Studio back in the 20's-50's
the film makers - Frank Miller the creator/writer of 300, both as a comic book then as a film script - is not Jewish - he is the top comic book writer in the world creating Sin City, and also having the most popular runs on Batman and Daredevil.
Zach Snyder, the director, is not Jewish either.
it never ceases to amaze me how people try to see"jewish conspiracy" behind every corner.
even if this was made by Jewish people - the effort would have simply been to make money, and make a cool movie.
the fact that Xerces is Persian is incidental.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 16, 2007 - 01:58 PM
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Luke,
Of course, to claim that the movie is a jewish conspiracy is foolish. But so is the movie itself. I haven't watched it yet but I won't be surprised if I find it more distorting that it is described in wikipedia. Depicting Spartans as democratic freedom-lovers is a straightforward lie. So is depicting Persians of the time as bloorthirsty, slavish monsters.
Someone commented that "300" is worse than Apocalypto. I watched the latter, and it is full of racist stereotypes. At the time when the US government owes and apology, if not reparations to the Mayans of Guatemala, for the US-backed genocidal terror campaign against them in the eighties, Hollywood presents the Mayan ancestors as bloodthirsty savages, and the first European visitors to the New World as some kind of saviors at the end of the movie.
Both movies are pathetic.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 16, 2007 - 09:58 PM
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Arslan - honestly, its a fun movie, Frank Miller is a good writer -
and people are too sensitive. I know Frank, and...
its a comic book -
there is no intention of being historically accurate -
The difference between Apacolypto and 300 - is that Mel Gibson went around hailing his historical accuracy - talking about how he would "transport" the viewer to the Mayan world.
In Apacolypto the dialogue is even litterally in Mayan.
"300" is a comic book that uses a particular event 2500 years ago - and fictionalizes it.
Frank Miller never made any claims that this was accurate - he never made any bones aobut it being fictional.
so of course the greeks are freedom loving heros in the movie -
it is hard to root for them if the4y are portrayed as slave owning barbarians (which is more accurate)
and the bad guys are villians - that is how comic books work.
and I guess what I find so absurd about all this is when you say -
"At the time when the US government owes and apology, if not reparations to the Mayans of Guatemala, for the US-backed genocidal terror campaign against them in the eighties, Hollywood presents the Mayan ancestors as bloodthirsty savages,"
Mel Gibson does not work for the US government - he can do whatever he wants.
He bears no responsibility what so ever for whatever happened in Guatamala in 80's
and there is this weird urge to treat the US as though it was some monolithic group - where everyone bears responsiblity for what everyone else does.
when you say "Hollywood presents..." who is Hollywood - Mel Gibson?
most of Hollywood won't even TALK to that Anti-semite - he finances his own films outside the studio system.
and "300" is a good movie, its fun, it is not meant to be taken seriously - and I pity those who are so wrapped up in their political correctness that they can't simply enjoy a good film.
I guess we can't enjoy Indiana Jones either.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 17, 2007 - 07:21 AM
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Luke,
I'll watch it anyway to see myself. Of course, what Iranians in Iran are saying is foolish--I mean, this conspiracy theory. However, it seems to me that the strongest criticism of the movie is coming from Iranians in North America.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 17, 2007 - 04:00 PM
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they have a right to be upset - people have a right to react however they naturally react -
I'm just a fan of movies and if people overthink this stuff... they miss out on the fun.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 17, 2007 - 04:19 PM
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Hollywood often comes out with "fiction" films that offend some nationality or the other.
Luke spoke of Indiana Jones. The Temple of Doom shows Indians eating stewed snakes! What a joke. India is the most vegetarian country in the world and Cantonese food habits are attributed to Indians..
The movie also claims to be set in North India and the so-called Indians in the film are Sinhalese Sri Lankans, who look nothing like the Himalayan region residents.
Hollywood is not about historical or cultural accuracy.
I wouldn't take such films seriously.
Although any movie bashing Israel or Jewsih culture may never see the light of day.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 17, 2007 - 04:43 PM
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not unless Mel Gibson makes it ; - )
Although there was "The Passion" - I don't remember Jews being hereos in that picture (unless of course you count Jesus).
This post was edited on: 2007-03-17 at 05:19 PM by: luke
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 18, 2007 - 12:18 AM
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Well.. alcohol brought out Gibson's views into the open, didn't it ?
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 18, 2007 - 01:53 PM
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Arslan
Don't waste your time and money watching this film. It is dreadful. Trust me!!
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 18, 2007 - 03:59 PM
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Ajay,
Thanks for informing me about it. But, you know, I live in a place where copyright laws basically do not exist. So, it won't cost me anything actually. ;-)
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 18, 2007 - 05:07 PM
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"copyright laws basically do not exist. So, it won't cost me anything actually. ;-)"
sigh...
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 19, 2007 - 02:48 AM
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luke wrote:
"copyright laws basically do not exist. So, it won't cost me anything actually. ;-)"
sigh...
Luke, in the place where I currently live, Bishkek (Kyrgyzstan), free TV does not shy away from showing the newest movies. It is not me actually who disregards the copyright laws. I have TV where they show these movies and I watch it. That is where I watched Apocalypto!
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 20, 2007 - 06:05 AM
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As far as this Muslim is concerned, it's nothing but 2 hours of gore and some really nice muscle action lol.
Malaysians try to make a fuss out of copyright, but most of the time it's only when it's the local production that's pirated, nobody gives much of a carp about already wealthy overseas artists and moviemakers complaining about it.
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Re: "300" a jewish conspiracy
March 20, 2007 - 01:32 PM
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luke wrote:
"Reporter: Tonight, IRINN commentary also sheds more light on the conspiracy behind the screening of this anti-culture Hollywood film.
Voiceover: Screening of the movie ‘300’ which has depicted war between the Persians and the Greeks, using an unreal and fabricated story, is facing a wave of protests and criticism by Iranians both inside and outside the country. Warner Bros., which belongs to the famous and rich American Jew, is the company that has made the movie. This movie, which is totally against Persian culture and civilization, could be considered a production by Zionists and a group of American extremists. The film ‘300’ shows the historical war between Persians, at the time of King Xerxes, with the Spartans. The director wrongly depicts the Persians as being violent and warmongers. This film is a complete distortion of history. It shows the Spartans, who were warmongers and racists and violent, as peace lovers, and the Persians as uncivilized- which is nothing but a lie. In addition to distortion of history, the Zionist Warner Company is also pursuing cultural and political objectives by producing such a film which has a very shallow script. From the cultural point of view, the Zionists and the elements affiliated to the U.S. have tried to launch a propaganda front against ancient and historical roots of Iranians, and the hasty production of this film is an indication of its propaganda aspect. But political intentions of Warner have been more important than anything else. This film tries to paint a violent image of Persians who are against peace in today’s world, in order to increase the international political pressure on Iran. This is while films should be made of crimes committed by the Americans, throughout history, all around the world, and it should be shown what the so-called civilized Zionists and Americans are doing today with human rights and humanity."
http://www.judeoscope.ca/article.php3?id_article=0555
That's nothing. I think that hate disables your ability to think rationally. For example, look at this:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Scroll down for a list of "quotes" from the Talmud. People believe this stuff. I've met them. Worse still, they don't check and see if its real or not when a quick glance at the actual Talmud would tell them that the thesis is based upon fabrications.
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