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Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
April 4, 2003 - 10:17 AM
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SHOULD CANADA BE SELLING ITS WATER?
Canada is lucky for having 20% of the Earth's fresh water. Water is also called the "oil of the 21st century" and "liqiud gold", but should this country be willing to share water with other countries. That is what we are discussing. This debate has been going on for a long time. Help by given your opinions.
Lets look at the good points and the bad ones. The good points is that Canada will make money be able to deal with most money problems. It would help countries where it is very dry, but they will become too dependent to Canada's water, which will eventually run out.
Canadians shouldn't take advantage of its water. Canada is the world's second most water consuming country next to United States. Canada uses 350 litres of water a day.
My opinion is that Canada shouldn't sell its water because Canada will make money while loose lots of water and the countries that purchase will become dependent on the water and when Canada don't have enough water, Canada will not sell anymore water and the countries who purchase Canada's water will dry up.
Please give me your opinions and explanation on your time.
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
April 5, 2003 - 10:09 AM
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Kelvin, i agree with you i think Canada shouldn't sell its water. My reasons for this is that soon some day the water will run out and we won't have any for our selves. The adults don't really care about the usage of water because they'll be dead by the time the problem starts because that will be our generation. I think that the youth should have a right to vote because it will affect us in the future.
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
April 6, 2003 - 08:12 AM
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I agree with both of u!! Canada shouldn't sell its water. It's a provenfact that wel will suffer frum water shortage in the future!!
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
February 19, 2004 - 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Kelvin65
My opinion is that Canada shouldn't sell its water because Canada will make money while loose lots of water and the countries that purchase will become dependent on the water and when Canada don't have enough water, Canada will not sell anymore water and the countries who purchase Canada's water will dry up.
Wouldn't it cause war if canada is not going to sell them any water? We don't want WORLD WAR III
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selling water
May 6, 2004 - 10:38 AM
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if canada sells its water i think i might have to kill someone. canada is out with its water and now it is ours, if we sell it we sell it but all i care about is if there is enough for me, if some stupid chink buys my water and makes me die of thirst i will seriously rtake out my gun and shoot him in the head, that goes for any other fucking religion. you want my water you have to come and get it BIATCH. if you want it so bad move to canda, it isnt that hard if you can speak englicsh your in. all of you are a bunch of idiots if you think we should sell it. in 25 years we wi;ll be in war maybe over water what is the point of wasting it. screw the poor countries why do we have to pull there slack. screw you!!!!
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
May 13, 2004 - 04:11 AM
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I totally don't think that they should sell our water cuz its ours, so wat if other coutries' water is polluted, its their problem not ours.
Yeah, I know that Canada is the world's most peaceful country but still. WE SHOULDN'T SELL OUR WATER!!!
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Canada should not sell its water.
October 24, 2004 - 08:58 AM
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I do not think Canada should sell its water. We should take advantage of what we have, which is said to be the "oil of the 21st C, but not take advantage of it oo much. Perhaps we could cut down on out water usage per day. The average Canadian uses 350 litres of water per day, when a person could get by with using less than half that amount.
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
December 13, 2004 - 05:05 AM
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does anyone know which countries does canada sell this water to?? and where does that water come from... north pole?
just concerned, i mean, yes, it is bad that we're selling our water, cause its non renewable, the day soon will come we wont have enough for even ourselves... but what would other countries do without us? as important providers of this primary source of life, we cant be so selfish and let others die of thirst..... we should (each canadian) economize water, not only cause we 'own' it, but simply cause its NATure!.. lower how much we sell.. and trade for fur hehe, it gets cold here sometimes :P, naw, jk, but yeah, lower how much we sell (hopefully its all worked out) and the rest of the countries should find out a way of treating impure waters so not all their resources depend on us...
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
December 19, 2004 - 10:49 AM
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I agree with those who said we shouldnt sell our water, the only problem with that is that eventually what will happen is other countires will threaten war i we do not share, so the best solution is that we have to come up with a way to clean up drty water so that it is drinkable then there would be enough water for everyone.
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Canada Should And Heres why
January 6, 2005 - 11:04 AM
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The military in the united states is much stronger (more than ten times stronger to be exact) than ours so if we refuse to sell the United States their water they could easily take it without paying a SINGLE DIME!!! In addition, more countries in our world are short on water and may not be willing to pay the same price as the United States, which is the richest country in the world. They are willing to pay us $85 billion dollars US for , which would be a significant amount of money. Some water that they may be taking is also never used. It is in lakes and streams far north, which nobody utilizes. Another important idea to consider is that we are not conserving as much water as we could. If we gave some of our water to the United States, we would more aware of how much water we are using. In other places around the world, they have developed machines that are much more water efficient and sometimes use one tenth of the amount of water we use. One more reason that we should sell some of our water to the United States is they are not keeping all the water for them selves NAWAPA the North American Water and Power Alliance would not just be supplying water to the States they would also be supplying fresh drinking water to Mexico. The country of Mexico dose not have good water quality or quantity so selling water to the united states would also be helping people in dire need. I would like you all to think about this and think about the positive side to selling our water to United States and how it could avoid problems and give us new opportunities.
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Continued.....
January 6, 2005 - 11:14 AM
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If u did not find my last persuasive
HEre!!!!!!!!!
Why we should sell!!!!
1. They may wage war on us and we would lose, they would get our water and not pay with. If we ally with strongest country they would protect our country and they might reason well with us.
• WAR ON IRAQ IS FOR OIL
Bush decided to invade Iraq in April 2001, six months before September 11th, and the official reason was to improve Western access to Iraqi oil.
"President Bush's Cabinet agreed in April 2001 that 'Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East' and because this is an unacceptable risk to the US 'military intervention' is necessary."[1] The decision for military action had nothing to do with 9/11, the war on terrorism, the UN weapons inspections, weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi human rights, or any of the factors that the US government would like you to believe are the true motives for war.” The only people who will benefit from the war on Iraq are the elite wealthy oil men who finance Bush's election campaigns, and people like Bush who have huge personal investments in the oil industry. Oil company profits have already increased by fifty percent this year because of the war, and the invasion hasn't even started yet! “Profits in the fourth quarter soared 50% to $4.09bn (£2.5bn), beating analyst expectations."[2] War-time propaganda tells you what you want to hear; that your politicians have noble motives for the war on Iraq. Source http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp
• http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html
Military United States
Military branches: Army, Navy and Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard (Coast Guard administered in peacetime by the Department of Homeland Security, but in wartime reports to the Department of the Navy)
Military manpower - military age and obligation:
18 years of age (2004 est.)
Military manpower - availability:
males age 15-49: 73,597,731 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
NA (2004 est.)
Military manpower - reaching military age annually:
males: 2,124,164 (2004 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure:
$370.7 billion (FY04 est.) (March 2003)
Military expenditures - percent of GDP:
3.3% (FY03 est.) (February 2004)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ca.html#Military
Military Canada
Military branches: Canadian Armed Forces: Land Forces Command, Maritime Command, Air Command
Military manpower - military age and obligation: 16 years of age for voluntary military service (2001)
Military manpower - availability:
males age 15-49: 8,417,314 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 15-49: 7,176,642 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - reaching military age annually:
males: 214,623 (2004 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure:
$9,801.7 million (2003)
Military expenditures - percent of GDP:
1.1% (2003)
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• the best possible cost estimates, attempting to replace by local projects the U.S. section of NAWAPA alone, excluding the benefits to (and the contributions from) Mexico and Canada, would cost $85 billion, two-thirds as much as the entire project! http://www.schillerinstitute.org/economy/phys_econ/phys_econ_nawapa_1983.html
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2. If we have less water we will conserve more and make more of a commitment to conserving water.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Waterresource
• Conservation
• Japanese toilet with conservation feature: water used once for handwashing, is then re-used for flushing.One part of the solution is conservation. People will pay almost any amount for drinking water. (the retail price of bottled water in many cases is greater than that of gasoline in the same area.) However, far more water than may be necessary is presently used for irrigation, wash water and industrial water. With proper resource management, and recycling/reclamation, the wasteful use of water may be greatly decreased.
• World-wide, crops irrigated by ditches use 70% or more of available water. Changing to dry-land crops can reduce water use, but with a corresponding drop in production, while switching to sprinkler or drip irrigation may or may not conserve water. In some cases switching to more efficient technologies means higher yields, but without any real decrease in the consumption of water. Good management is also essential to achieve conservation, since these systems can be just as wasteful if not properly managed.
• About 15% of water use is industrial. Much industrial water is used for cleaning or cooling. Often the water can be settled, filtered and recycled. This reduces pollution of surface water while reducing use. In some cases, it is profitable for water providing authorities to share the costs of pollution control equipment for industries.
• Many authorities say that the way to stop these abuses is simply to charge users the true costs of the water they use. Some areas subsidize farm and industrial uses of water by over-charging residential uses.
• In cities, the largest waste of water is as run off during rainy seasons. Most roofs and storm sewers could preserve the water for use. In heavily urban southern California, some runoff is diverted to man-made and natural wetlands In physical geography, a wetland is an environment "at the interface between truly terrestrial ecosystems...and truly aquatic systems...making them different from each yet highly dependent on both" (Mitsch & Gosselink, 1986). In essence, wetlands are ecotones. Wetlands are found under a wide range of hydrological conditions, but at least some of the time water saturates the soil. The result
• Some areas of California and Israel use greywater Greywater is wastewater generated by household processes such as washing dishes, laundry and bathing. Greywater is distinct from wastewater that has been contaminated with sewage, which is known as blackwater.
• There are numerous processes such as using reedbed filter systems, the wetpark systems or the Living Wall that can be used to clean up greywater.
• Recycled greywater from showers and bathtubs can be used for flushing toilets, which saves great amounts of water. Many attempts at this have been made in Germany.
• A number of cities and water districts in California recycle sewage to standards that would make it usable for drinking or washing water. Though some of this "reclaimed water" is used for irrigation, recharging aquifers, or is discharged into reservoir A reservoir (French: réservoir) is an artificial lake created by flooding land behind a dam. Some of the world's largest lakes are reservoirs.
• Surveyors have to find river valleys which are deep and narrow; the valley sides can then act as natural walls. The best place for building a dam has to be determined. If necessary, humans have to be rehoused and/or historic sites have to be moved, e.g. the temples of Abu Simbel before the construction of the Aswan Dam, creating Lake Nasser.
3. They will not only be providing themselves with water the water that they buy will also go to Mexico.
• For the United States, the benefits of the upgraded NAWAPA proposal are virtually unlimited. The full-scale project now promises 150 million acre-feet of water per year—a 50 percent increase in the present consumption of 300 million acre-feet yearly. Some 55,000 megawatts per year of surplus electric power would be provided, nearly doubling present U. S. hydroelectric capacity of 70,000 megawatts. Nearly 50 million more acres of irrigable land will become available, almost doubling irrigated acreage west of the Mississippi.
• It doesn‘t end there. Stabilization and control of the Great Lakes is one dramatic example of the decrease in pollution levels attainable by such methods of water management. NAWAPA would also help to stabilize water levels throughout the West, providing, among its notable benefits, the opportunity to reverse the depletion of the Ogalala Aquifer, the principal water supply for 11 million acres of prime farmland in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, and other High Plains states. NAWAPA would provide the mechanism for reversing the current salinity problem of irrigated lands by flooding selected areas to wash out the accumulated salts, and by maintaining a regime of “wasteful“ irrigation to prevent such build-ups in the future. Thus ground water supplies would be recharged. In addition, increased facilities for water transport would also prove cost-saving.
• NAWAPA would also create substantial numbers of productive jobs, for example, in the construction and steel industries. Unlike the make-work employment projects proposed by some as a depression measure, the NAWAPA project would employ American manpower to actually increase the national wealth.
• In addition, NAWAPA would increase the power of the U.S. A. to develop other nations in the Third World, providing new markets for American agriculture and industry.
• It is more difficult to give a “dollars and cents“ estimate of NAWAPA‘s annual benefit to American industry, agriculture, workers and consumers; but one respected congressional supporter of the original NAWAPA plan reported it would increase the annual national income from agriculture, livestock, mining, and manufacturing by approximately $30 billion.
• The benefits for Mexico and Canada would be of a similar spectacular order. Canada would enjoy 58 million acre-feet of water and 38,000 additional megawatts of hydroelectric power, and the same kind of irrigation, transport, and clean water benefits accruing to the United States. In particular, the Northwest Passage route would be a vital aid in realizing the vast, untapped development potential of that largely wilderness nation.
• As for Mexico, a nation whose rapid agricultural and industrial development is essential to advance the living standards of its 60 million citizens and for whom increased food production ranks as a critical national priority, NAWAPA would produce an additional 40 million acre-feet of water a year, at least tripling its irrigable land, and 4,000 additional megawatts of electric power. The Parsons Company‘s original estimate of the economic benefit to Mexico was an annual $30 billion increase in national income from agricultural, livestock, mining and manufacturing—the same figure as projected for the United States.
4. Other
• They have a strong economy example the beef industry so we would suffer even more.
• IF were the peace keepers and the next world war may be over our water we would not that to happen. “The wars of the next century will be fought over water” ... The World Bank
• http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=NAWAPA
NAWAPA North American Water and Power Alliance
• Some water that they may take would also NAWAPA would involve the construction of a series of dams in Alaska and the Canadian Yukon, trapping the water of the various rivers running through this largely undeveloped wilderness area.
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
January 7, 2005 - 02:19 AM
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why the hell does the issue of Canada selling its water keep appearing on this board.
Do yourselves a favor, take a deep breathe, calm down, and RELAX. Sure there are water shortages in places, but Canada will never be one of them. Sorry, but humankind will probably kill itself off before massive populations of humans immigrate to freeze their tails off in Canada.
There will be water shortages in deserts, and water isn't easily or cheaply transported over extreme distances.
By the way...margah....water is RENEWABLE. Where on Earth did you learn that water is a finite resource. There is the same amount of water on earth today as there was the instance this place came to be. The water you are drinking right now could very well contain hydrogen and oxygen atoms that were expelled out of the rear end of a diahrea plagued Dinosaur.
Give me a break. All of you getting pissed that Canada is selling its water, and getting your bomb shelter ready cause your worried about WWIII, are searching too hard for a cause to latch onto. If your worried about water, join a local stream cleanup team, or start an investigation on industrial wastewater.
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We've already done it!!
January 8, 2005 - 08:54 AM
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The truth is, we've already done it. And people in Japan enjoyed Canadian ice cubes in their wine. Although that ice mine is closed long time ago, people keep have thoughts to reopen it. It would definately make a nice profit, but in the long run, this money will be nothing. And when the day where water is more precious than gold comes, Canada will be rich, that is, we don't over use our water resources.
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
January 18, 2005 - 02:10 AM
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No Canada should not sell it´s water but it should nether do nothing with it. I think Canada could give some water to the people in bad needs but not make them dependent upon it but make a area where they would keep the water and secure it and it should nether run our for some time and it by case it would i think people should let in more forginners to there countrys (but that is an other disscustion)
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Re: Should Canada Sell ITs water?do you know?
January 18, 2005 - 10:31 AM
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of course canada should not sell its water, thats ridiculous. water just isnt important to us, its good for biological diversity, which wont exist in canada anymore if we give all our water away.
besides, all those people who live in dried up countries dont have a very good education, so they arent very smart, we can just give them lake ontario, theyre dumb and wont know its polluted.
and the americans wouldnt take it from us, they like us somewhat. and they have lake michigan and stuff too.
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