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Patricia Sudi
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[Poll] Corruption
March 6, 2007 - 09:46 AM
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How can we ensure we achieve a zero tolerance to corruption?
Is it really possible to curb corruption?
Yes
(9 votes for 56.25%)
No
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 7, 2007 - 02:08 PM
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I think its possible to curb corruption expecially in government...by transparency and punishment.
Let me explain. If the allocations and the spending of government funds are made public, corrupt officials have to think twice before they cook up a cock and bull story of how they utilized the fund. If you claim you constructed a road, and with such an amount...then its open for scrutiny. There are civil engineers and quantity surveyors amongst the public.
Now the best part....punishment! Am not one to advocate for capital punishments (believe me i hate it, but i seriously feel thats the only way to instill fear in these corrupticians), but any guilty corrupt official should be publicly executed. Yes. I say this because these Corrupt politicians and top government officials think the masses are dumb. In my country as a case study, we have situations where government contracts are OVER inflated...sometimes over ten times. The problem is not the over inflation (after all its done everywhere in the world...Harliburton contracts in Iraq, remember??) but that most times the jobs are not executed, or if executed, it is poorly done..and has to be re awarded again or abandoned entirely.
Why executions are good for these corrupt people, is that most times the contracts are community based and will add lifeline's to these community. But these Corruptitians deprive these people of what could improve and better thier lives, thereby putting them at risk. Many die as a result of these corrupt practices. What do you do to corrupt officials who loot monies meant to build hospitals in villages...Then these villagers have to use a the nearest hospital to them which is hundreds of kilometers away...and in some emergency cases some die on the way trying to get there...Shoot them! The next guy to handle the contract will deliver...trust me. 
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 7, 2007 - 02:08 PM
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I think its possible to curb corruption expecially in government...by transparency and punishment.
Let me explain. If the allocations and the spending of government funds are made public, corrupt officials have to think twice before they cook up a cock and bull story of how they utilized the fund. If you claim you constructed a road, and with such an amount...then its open for scrutiny. There are civil engineers and quantity surveyors amongst the public.
Now the best part....punishment! Am not one to advocate for capital punishments (believe me i hate it, but i seriously feel thats the only way to instill fear in these corrupticians), but any guilty corrupt official should be publicly executed. Yes. I say this because these Corrupt politicians and top government officials think the masses are dumb. In my country as a case study, we have situations where government contracts are OVER inflated...sometimes over ten times. The problem is not the over inflation (after all its done everywhere in the world...Harliburton contracts in Iraq, remember??) but that most times the jobs are not executed, or if executed, it is poorly done..and has to be re awarded again or abandoned entirely.
Why executions are good for these corrupt people, is that most times the contracts are community based and will add lifeline's to these community. But these Corruptitians deprive these people of what could improve and better thier lives, thereby putting them at risk. Many die as a result of these corrupt practices. What do you do to corrupt officials who loot monies meant to build hospitals in villages...Then these villagers have to use a the nearest hospital to them which is hundreds of kilometers away...and in some emergency cases some die on the way trying to get there...Shoot them! The next guy to handle the contract will deliver...trust me.
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 7, 2007 - 02:09 PM
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I think its possible to curb corruption expecially in government...by transparency and punishment.
Let me explain. If the allocations and the spending of government funds are made public, corrupt officials have to think twice before they cook up a cock and bull story of how they utilized the fund. If you claim you constructed a road, and with such an amount...then its open for scrutiny. There are civil engineers and quantity surveyors amongst the public.
Now the best part....punishment! Am not one to advocate for capital punishments (believe me i hate it, but i seriously feel thats the only way to instill fear in these corrupticians), but any guilty corrupt official should be publicly executed. Yes. I say this because these Corrupt politicians and top government officials think the masses are dumb. In my country as a case study, we have situations where government contracts are OVER inflated...sometimes over ten times. The problem is not the over inflation (after all its done everywhere in the world...Harliburton contracts in Iraq, remember??) but that most times the jobs are not executed, or if executed, it is poorly done..and has to be re awarded again or abandoned entirely.
Why executions are good for these corrupt people, is that most times the contracts are community based and will add lifeline's to these community. But these Corruptitians deprive these people of what could improve and better thier lives, thereby putting them at risk. Many die as a result of these corrupt practices. What do you do to corrupt officials who loot monies meant to build hospitals in villages...Then these villagers have to use a the nearest hospital to them which is hundreds of kilometers away...and in some emergency cases some die on the way trying to get there...Shoot them! The next guy to handle the contract will deliver...trust me.
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Prince Charles Jiduwah
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 7, 2007 - 03:11 PM
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To curb corruption we need to check the elements of corruptions and forms.
But it is monster we all must fight.
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 8, 2007 - 10:01 AM
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Kashboy, it is a lovely idea to check the corruption's elements and forms as the way to curb it. Would you be happy to share here more how you do see these elements which cause the corruption boom (maybe in Africa)? Supposing that corruption is a monster and we intend to fight against it, how do we see this monster resist/ react by our fighting or whether we curb it by cooling down its aggression? and in which ways?
I leave here an open discussion as we do see the last decades, there have been a lot of efforts to decline corruption; still it is spreading world-wide. The question is whether we miss any underlying steps of corruption's roots (understanding) and whether we have been on the advancing tracks and process/ methods to reduce the corruption. What do you guys think?
PS. I do believe one day we can curb corruption
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 23, 2007 - 08:33 AM
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Well we can reduce corruption, however i will like to state that crubing it is a matter for another world. Corruption is in everything we see, have, eat, wear, drink, sleep, use etc on daily bases.
Yes it is a monster that needs to be checkmate, but those elements that gave right to corruption as long as human being has some of these in their blood then the fight against the MONSTER cannot be won.
These elements are but not limited to CULTURE OF THE PEOPLE (2) GREED (3) POVERTY (4) INJUSTICE (5) INTIMIDATION etc
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Re: [Poll] Corruption
March 23, 2007 - 10:44 AM
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Hello Kashboy,
Thanks for your honest sharing. Yes I can see it in all dimensions of life. What I sense from your sharing seems to be a lot about the human nature and nothing would move till people remove and change those natures out of our "blood". Do you see any hope for this to work out? In the other hands, I am sure you have your own picture of not being with corruption.
I am hearing from you some elements. It is really nice to be listed. My question is which causes the people to be greedy. You may say that it is human nature. And yes it is...And my concern is again how this nature is formed. Can I say here based on what you said about poverty (yes this is a big cause of corruption) that because of the big sense of poverty and this leads people to the fears of being poor, we think to earn as much as possible to be not poor again. Is it the source of our greed?
What I see is here "I am poor. I was born not to be deserved this position. So I need to earn more money. The easy ways to do is to work hard or appease the government to get my job done quickly. Otherwise, likewise the gov also needs out-of-pocket money to sustain his family". Do you see the same frame of sustain their own lives between the government and the citizens? It seems to be that we are different but finally we are in the same of direction of supporting the family's lives. This leads to the action of corruption. It is my point of view. Let me know what you notice and whether you see this differently.
Take care and good luck with your life.
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