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Re: Global Warming
April 20, 2007 - 04:16 PM
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I found this interesting article in the NYT Magazine that has some good discussion on the possible approaches:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/magazine/15green.t.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin
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Re: Global Warming
April 23, 2007 - 12:09 PM
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How does war play a major role in global warming?want to say thro use of guns?i believe industralisation is one of the factors that led to global warming
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Re: Global Warming
April 23, 2007 - 11:30 PM
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patsibo wrote:
How does war play a major role in global warming?want to say thro use of guns?i believe industralisation is one of the factors that led to global warming
Hi everyone, this is my 1st post on a discussion forum on TakingITGlobal. So ya, I think what was meant by the comment that war can affec global warming is that the vehicles we use for warfare produce alot of CO2. For example, F-16 Fighter Planes alone produce large amounts of CO2 in order to travel at supersonic speeds.
For more info. on the fact we need 90% GHG reductions in ALL Rich Industralized Nations by 2030, check out George Monbiot's "Heat: How to Stop the Planet from Burning"!
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Re: Global Warming
April 25, 2007 - 09:20 AM
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Okay,first of all i think theoretically we have all the answers and solutions to this issue of global warming and so i think we should be looking for ways to make all the world countries to adopt and implement them and they should be given no alternatives.
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Re: Global Warming
April 25, 2007 - 09:40 PM
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Cadley wrote:
Okay,first of all i think theoretically we have all the answers and solutions to this issue of global warming and so i think we should be looking for ways to make all the world countries to adopt and implement them and they should be given no alternatives.
Well, the best way to implement this would be found within the book I mentioned earlier "Heat: How To Stop the Planet from Burning"
First of all, a revolution in the way we define freedom is a precondition for seriously dealing with this issue: freedom must become about doing what is socially and environmentally just, rather than the freedom of the individual to do whatever they want, even if it harms the environment.
For example, let's use the housing marking in the U.K. Currently, the definition of freedom of the U.K (according to George Monbiot), is the freedom of companies to compete with each other to produce the most cost efficient house possible (even if that means lowering environmental standards). Even though the current free-market system allows more freedom for companies to choose how to build houses, it decreases the freedom of consumers to choose the most environmentally friendly houses.
Second of all, any solution to the issue of Global Warming that focuses only on Human-Nature relations or Human-Human Nations is bound to fail because our Human-Human relations influence our Human-Nature relations: in order to change our Human-Nature relations, we must first or concurrently change our Human-Human relations (a topic which i've read also in a few articles for my Environmental Philosophy class).
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Re: Global Warming
April 25, 2007 - 09:41 PM
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As a continutation of my previous post, I also have this to say:
So once again, let me give you an example. According to Chp.8 in my Sociology 2000 text on Global Stratification, poor people (a.k.a low-income earners/families) are more likely to burn less fuel-efficient heating stores because they cannot afford the cost of choosing the most environmentally friendly options.
So ya, in order for us to effectively fight Global Warming, we must recognize that not all nations contribute equally to Global Warming: (with some exceptions) the richer nations and wealtheir people of the world gain most of the benefits from our current inefficient system (which rewards polluters more than anything else), while at the same time, poor people and those from poorer countries are the ones who suffer most from Global Warming.
For example, a poor farmer in Indonesia who has his farm wiped out because of the rising sea levels caused by Global Warming loses his livelihood, whereas a Wealthy Millionaire or Billionaire in the U.S who might've lost some property to Hurricane Katrina (which is believed to have been influence by Global Warming) is only at an inconvenience because they could afford to have their property replaced.
Although not perfect, this is a good starting point!
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Re: Global Warming
April 25, 2007 - 09:44 PM
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ameliatqy wrote:
Global Warming, not good. In the year 2007 during summer, everywhere in the world, the tempreture would rise up 3-4 degrees, according to a newspaper article. Global Warming is very dangerous. There would be more natural diasters and animals can become extinct. I blame it on human activity for using too much smoke and energy. War could have played a big part in Global Warming. If we are not going to take care of our planet, who will?
Umm, there is another act I ought to inform you all of: according to George Monbiot's "Heat", he makes it clear that if Global Warming reaches or exceeds an increase of 2 degrees celsius a year, watch out, because at this point, the trees and soil (which have absorbed CO2 for 100's of years) will switch from absorbing CO2 to EMITTING CO2.
What will this mean in a practical sense? It'll mean that the risk of Global Warming running so rampant that we'll be able to do little to nothing to stop it becomes much more likely.
Hence, this is why we need to reduce GHG's by 90% by 2030: to give ourselves the best chance of avoiding this worst case scenario!
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Rohini Singh
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Re: Global Warming
April 29, 2007 - 02:36 AM
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Plebiscites wrote:
Apparently there is a documentary that passed the other day on the BBC that claims that global warming is more a marketing "tool" that a real issue. I apologise as I couldn't watch it and can't remember its title, and therefore I am just transcribing a discussion I had with a friend. This documentary was apparently supported by some scientists of the best universities. The basic idea was that during some glacial ages the level of CO2 was several times higher than the current levels and therefore you could easily draw the conclusion that CO2 has an impact on climate (greenhouse effect) but it comes to a point where its effect saturates. (Revolting?) In addition to that they advise that many big corporations are claiming to become "green" and mobilising the mass to create new streams of consumism and new needs. A good example could be GE, massive american corporation that is supposed to be turning "green".
I think this could make sense as nowadays been able to differenciate what is pure marketing and what isn't becomes extremely difficult? Or is science also driven by the big corporations as they have managed to control the "global thinking"?
I would like to know what are your views in regards to these issues.
I still however believe that even if global warming wasn't a reality and just a natural cycle, mankind cannot carry on throwing so much waste, pollution,etc to the planet or burning natural ressources without control in an inefficient way.
Regards.
I love the earth and do my bit (don’t throw trash on the road, keep electricity usage at a minimum) but how do some people claim to care for the earth when they couldn’t care less for fellow humans. Being environment friendly has become the latest fad in the market. Superficiality reigns supreme Energy companies obviously don’t invest in alternative sources, they prefer to gift ceo’s with fat salary packages and even fatter retirement deals. Inconvenient truths like this are very conveniently not highlighted when such a hullabaloo is made out of global warming and what not.
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Re: Global Warming
April 29, 2007 - 01:03 PM
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"I love the earth and do my bit (don’t throw trash on the road, keep electricity usage at a minimum) but how do some people claim to care for the earth when they couldn’t care less for fellow humans. Being environment friendly has become the latest fad in the market. Superficiality reigns supreme Energy companies obviously don’t invest in alternative sources, they prefer to gift ceo’s with fat salary packages and even fatter retirement deals. Inconvenient truths like this are very conveniently not highlighted when such a hullabaloo is made out of global warming and what not."
Indeed, like I believe id said on another form, an environmental ethic that ignores the social consequences for humans is ridiculous: some environmentalists fail to make the distinction that the poor tend to pollute mainly because they don't have enough to afford 'cleaner energy'.
But ya, we also need an 'environmental justice' ethic: recognizing that although most of the chemicals produced(such as CO2) which fuel global warming are produced by the rich and rich countries. However, it's the poor and poor countries that suffer the most (as their jobs tend to be more primary resource based, such as fishing and farming), which are affected the most by the changes brought on by global warming!
This post was edited on: 2007-04-29 at 01:05 PM by: JWLnler
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Prince Charles Jiduwah
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Re: Global Warming
April 30, 2007 - 10:01 PM
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Global warming is an issue that affects every one but especially the fragile ecosystems on earth
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Da Player
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Re: Global Warming
May 1, 2007 - 08:31 PM
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global warming is hurting the earth and makeing the temputure rise every year. We need to do something about it and fast to keep the earth the way it is enviromentaly
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Re: Global Warming
May 9, 2007 - 02:58 AM
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The ironical thing is that most of the global warming, as we are seeing today was caused by developed nations. They reaped their progress at the cost of the enviroment and are able to switch to greener technologies, whereas we, in the developiing world have to to now suddenly obey world powers and start reducing emissions only because in the future we might become the most polluting nations. Its extremely urgent to address this issue, no matter which country, but I find it a paradox that the very countries who incremented this rise in temperature are now telling developing countries to clamp down many activities. And I saw in the BBC that european nations want to use palm oil as a substitute for greener fuel, but in the process, precious indonesian.malaysian south east asian forests are being cut down for palm plantations. Ironical, huh ?
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Robert Margolis
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Re: Global Warming
May 9, 2007 - 09:17 AM
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Perhaps the developing world can leapfrog the West with newer and cleaner technologies. I read that many countries in Africa already have cellphones even though they do not have land lines. Maybe similar developments in energy technology can be used in the same way.
This post was edited on: 2007-05-09 at 09:18 AM by: rsmarg
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Re: Global Warming
May 24, 2007 - 02:59 PM
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Recently I've read that scientists forecast real desaster causing by global warming. the percent of greenhouse effect will increase because of high temperature and the temperature will increase because of greenhouse effect. it'll be such mortal mechanism. mhm...It sounds terrifying
This post was edited on: 2007-05-24 at 03:02 PM by: nomadgirl
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Re: Global Warming
May 26, 2007 - 06:47 AM
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its interesting following this discussion. Information reports reveales that since the year 2000 CO2 emissions has nearly trippled with much of the contributors to it being the developing nations. Economies of nations keeps growing at different paces, developing nations have an increasingly rate of growth due to more industrialisation activities being undertaken by them. A study conduct in 2004 reveals that 75% of the emissions are from developing countries. This, to me as a citizen of a developing nation seems very terryfying to know we are contributing a greater part to the green house effect. But also industrialisation has become a key sector for growth for such developing countries.
I believe the key lies in us as global citizens to enforce emission controls and legislations.
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