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[Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
January 30, 2007 - 04:03 PM

Its a simple-sounding question, but answering it truthfully is a challenge. I for one voted yes.

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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
January 31, 2007 - 12:38 AM

yes there r two things that are always there. First is God exists but u cant prove it.
second is true love between two souls that can be felt .it can be felt when two are apart.bu there is no way to prove it to the world that other person feels the same for u when u are apart.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
January 31, 2007 - 05:43 PM

Hmm interesting but vas21 can't actions somehow or another prove sometimes things like love although I agree with what you said but still even if these things are not material I guess we can know if they exist or not


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
January 31, 2007 - 06:53 PM

nice thread (related to other one)
Yes because ONE CAN SEE AND FEEL THE PROVE WHICH IS STILL COVERED FOR OTHER ONE
If I say there is precious thing under the sand because i read about this place but I have no prove, so we must remove sand and even dig soil to get this precious thing and we will loose nothing but we may win


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
January 31, 2007 - 09:15 PM

I am one of those people who needs proof. I don't know why, but the thought of blindly believing in something disgusts me: I just don't understand it.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 1, 2007 - 04:20 AM


Jack1289 wrote:

I am one of those people who needs proof. I don't know why, but the thought of blindly believing in something disgusts me: I just don't understand it.

Tell me.. what's so disgusting in believing in something that can't be seen?
God..angels..love..Why do we need the proof..I know they exist..I feel it..smile

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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 1, 2007 - 09:38 AM

My friend once said to me, "To Believe is to See." You have to open to possibilities whether you fail or you succeed. What matters is that you stand for what you believe in, no matter what.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 2, 2007 - 04:44 PM

This question for anyone
do believe that you was just a clot of blood in womb of mother in darkness, then began to have spirit, move, breath like a fish, have many stages till you hear and see and become a kid and more
you did not see the first stages or till you understand but you believe
is this because you studied this or some one told you
do you believe creature and do not believe creator who mentioned these first stages in Quraan befor science prove?
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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 2, 2007 - 10:48 PM


Katea wrote:

My friend once said to me, "To Believe is to See." You have to open to possibilities whether you fail or you succeed. What matters is that you stand for what you believe in, no matter what.


This is so true, its all about how you see things, and interpret them. My immediate answer to the poll was yes, because I believe in God, but then I realised that I see proof that God exists in everything..and the same for love, I believe in love, and although its not something you can necessarily touch, it is something that you can see in people, in the way they do things or how they interact with each other. For other people, though, they do not see the Earth we live on as a proof of God's existance...it's all about interpretation. For me it's much easier to believe and interpret things as proof, than not to believe and wait till I come face to face with some physical incarnation (proof) of something...then again, I guess it really depends on the issue...some things, like the existance of love, to me are easy to believe (most of the time), but if its about a lie someone told, for example, then it may not be so easy.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 3, 2007 - 02:00 PM

yes, i believe in things that i cant prove.

in my opinon there are alot of things that could not be proved by puting the finger on it, but in law even, sometimes one has to decide on the basis of circumstantial evidence for a case. in case of god and love or emotions we have to believe on circumstantial evidence.

u say ur beloved, how he/she deals with u, talks with u, and the tears or smile tells u the truth. the same with god, the surroundings tell u that somebody is there to control everything, so i believe in god in this way.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 5, 2007 - 08:47 AM

Yes it is not neccesary to seeThis question for anyone
do believe that you was just a clot of blood in womb of mother in darkness, then began to have spirit, move, breath like a fish, have many stages till you hear and see and become a kid and more
you did not see the first stages or till you understand but you believe
is this because you studied this or some one told you
do you believe creature and do not believe creator who mentioned these first stages in Quraan befor science prove?
do you believe thatcreator get out the dead from live and the live from dead
look at the seed of apple in your hand like any seed, citruss , tomatoo,....it is dry and dead but when you add some water to the dead soil both soil and seed turn alive and give us huge tree from this dead small seed
Allah told us the meaning that from water , every living thing was created
in biochemistry lessons we studied many formulas depending on water in human bodt, plant, libing creatures
Glory for Allah who know what created
we can not see Allah but every thing say and prove the creator presence
look around you and in your selves you will find the prove
peace salam
salam (peace)


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 6, 2007 - 01:27 PM

Indeed, a very interesting thread smile I think there are somethings in your heart, sometimes you can't explain.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 6, 2007 - 02:01 PM

well i can say one's own perspective on things is sometimes hard to prove to others....
because of difference in circumstances and unique experience in life , people tend to have a slightly different take on things and matters...and often find themselves caught between the so-labeled clash of civilisation.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 7, 2007 - 01:20 PM


wvanbokk wrote:

Its a simple-sounding question, but answering it truthfully is a challenge. I for one voted yes.

This post was edited on: 2007-01-30 at 04:05 PM by: wvanbokk


Belief implies association to and identification with without any susbtantial material or otherwise proves.

Proving something , conversely, means providing evidence and backing with universally acceptable factual information.

Belief is, as many claim, reached after being provided by some kind of prove. Usually anything involving into the cathegory of "believe" (talking mostly about religion vs. science, which I believe is what William had in head starting this thread) does NOT have the necessary and universally accepted factual part behind it. While some claim there is prove, many others are unconvinced. Also, if belief were to be universally appealing as having rigorous proves it wouldn't be a mere belief. It would be a proven fact, one level closer to a rigorous scientific (in the largest sense of that word) and rational inquiry.

Thus two terms seem to me almost always mutually exclusive in this context.


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Re: [Poll] Do you believe in anything that you can't prove?
February 7, 2007 - 02:01 PM

well science i think has its beginnings in assumptions...Copernicus believed that Earth revolved around the Sun and he couldnt prove it to the world then ...he didnt have enough proof to convince them and had to face the wrath from every corner.

so if today somebody imagines something or believes in something he can't prove....then tommorow he might have the chance or technology to prove it to the world.

Webster's Dictionary defines imagination as the "act or process of forming a conscious idea or mental image of something never before wholly perceived in reality by the imaginer "

Also as it is reflected in Shakespeare's neoplatonic outburst ;
The lunatic, the lover, and the poet are of imagination all compact . . . The poet's eye, in a fine frenzy rolling, doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven, and as imagination bodies forth the forms of things unknown, the poet's pen turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing a local habitation and a name.


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