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dude....
October 12, 2001 - 11:00 AM

...quit posting this stuff all over the place!!!

quit littering!

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JFK message
October 17, 2001 - 02:32 AM

John F. Kennedy, “. . . we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”

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kennedy.
October 18, 2001 - 08:06 AM

my favourite and my most hated american president.

favourite - he was like a wise old man, capable of citing literature to justify his actions. acted everyway the gentleman, but like his country, his policies and his people - he had his dark side.

most hated - did things for the flag. not the people.

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Judging out of context?
October 18, 2001 - 12:39 PM

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Indeed JFK used the CIA to put in the Baath Party in Iraq (Saddam Hussein's party) and escalated the involvement in Vietnam, however he was fighting the Cold War. He did not have the historical perspective to see that what would work in Western Europe would not apply to other parts of the World. Perhaps he is being judged by too modern a standard.

Also, JFK started the Peace Corps, advocated Civil Rights (though he was too unpopular with Congress to get it passed), and boosted the space program. Most important, he handled the Cuban Missile Crisis without starting WWIII.
While the baby-boomers probably over-idolize him, we are all still here today because he made the right decisions where it REALLY mattered.

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okay then.
October 20, 2001 - 05:04 AM

rsmarg - (god i love this) were you aware that the space programs sole goal in the 60's was to BEAT the russians?

dont tell me it was seperate from the cold war. because, it wasnt.

and dont get my started on the cold war - grant might call me a commie again.

Yes
October 20, 2001 - 09:51 AM

Certainly the space program was an element of the Cold War. In another post I commented that in a Monopoly game everyone tries to get Boadwalk and Park Place. The US and USSR thought of the moon as Boardwalk and the oil rich Mid-east as Park Place.

We have to remember that Stalin ran the USSR during the Cold War. He was NOT a philanthropist. We often apply today's "politically correct" lenses without considering historical context.

JFK was definitely a Cold Warrior. However, he was forward thinking enough to get the Limited Test Ban which stopped everyone from putting nuclear weapons in orbit. He was also able to inspire young people to serve the greater society and community at large.

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america america, oh sweet america!
October 21, 2001 - 05:10 AM

are you sure?

i always considered kennedy to have inspired americans to work *for* america.

and why did he do that? because he thought america was the only thing worth working for.

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Re: America
October 21, 2001 - 11:29 AM

Khruschev did not start a Peace Corps. Khruschev did not advocate for the rights for oppressed minorities in the USSR. Certainly JFK was pro-America (as most Aussie PMs are pro-Australia), but he brought a wider perspective at a crucial time.

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Re: America
October 22, 2001 - 05:11 AM

cant write too much - finger got caught in door.

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rsmarg - do you think i dont realise there has never been a prime minister who wasnt nationalistic in some sense?

why do you think im here in the first place!

fingers hurt now.

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Re: America
October 22, 2001 - 08:07 AM

Hope your finger feels better soon. :-)

I was trying to point out that ALL leaders will be partisan for their own nations. When a leader is able to do something larger they should get credit.

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rsmarg.
October 26, 2001 - 10:15 AM

just for the record - i was trying to prove the same point!

finger isnt any better sad

and i have a lot of writing

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