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why are some school better then others
December 20, 2006 - 11:28 AM
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why are some school better then others? For example why are there test scors better then others. Why are they most likely go to off to school and do something with there life. I think that in some way the students are not have will behaved.I also think it is way they are being taught at schools that are not as good as others.
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Re: why are some school better then others
February 20, 2007 - 03:47 PM
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Why should some schools not be better than others?
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Re: why are some school better then others
March 7, 2007 - 02:56 AM
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its just like you're asking "why some brains work better than others".
it really isn't easy to run a school, i must admit. how can you tell if a school is lousy and a school that does significantly better? ummm....it totally depends if the culture to encourage excellence continues or not...its all about commitment, amazing management, the principles that you apply at your school and then follow them.
good schools care about the parents, their clients and even volunteers that work for them...and not only students. good schools must strictly follow the district's curriculum or the main philosophy. it is absolutely important to let good teachers fix bad schools too...it is not hard to run a school if you're using your mind. its so important to send your children to a school that gets, not good, but brilliant results.. and besides looking at the results... its always important to go and have a look around and talk to other parents where possible. 
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Re: why are some school better then others
September 26, 2007 - 02:02 PM
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I think some schools are better than others for various reasons. I think it depends on where the school is located, how much funding the school has, the environment of the school (by how the teachers act with the students) and the social class of where the school is. There are plenty more reasons why some schools are better than others but from what I've heard from teachers these are the main reasons, I think.
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Re: why are some school better then others
December 5, 2007 - 09:05 AM
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In terms of infrastructures, provision of School facilities, Employment of Capable teachers, Improved Academic Standard etc. . . .Some schools are better than the others.
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Re: why are some school better then others
December 12, 2007 - 06:07 PM
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Shahpara wrote:...it totally depends if the culture to encourage excellence continues or not...its all about commitment, amazing management, the principles that you apply at your school and then follow them. *
I agree completely, Shahpara. I would like to add that there is no simple answer to school excellence, there is no one cause. It's not only in teachers or administrators.
I think quality of education is only 10% of what is taught in class. The rest is attitude and environment. If there is a culture of curiosity and wonder, people are most apt to enjoy learning. Kids will ask more questions people will be happy to respond. For this to happen there needs to be more understanding of how children learn from the part of adults, and children need not be educated out of their natural wonder at the world. It's about parent involvement and care, what types of conversations are had at the lunch table, what games they play outside. Same goes for university. It's "chugging beer and copying the lab report" versus "understanding why I do/don't believe in decentralized government.".
Once you instill that knowledge is not only power, but fun...that will turn any child into a critically thinking, creative mind.
I know I'm painting with broad strokes here. I hope someone can criticize/polish my thoughts.
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Re: why are some school better then others
December 30, 2007 - 12:34 AM
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Test scores can't tell you for certain that one school is better than another, it reflects mostly the intelligence level and work effort of the students at the school. It's true that most of the really prestigious, notably good schools out there gained their reputation as a good school by having students with high test scores and great achievements, but these things cannot be regarded as the sole determinant of how good the school actually is. As a lot of others before me had said, how good a school actually is depends on other factors such as its teachers, education standards and principles, environment, etc. Most of the good schools that we know do hold high standards in all the areas mentioned above, but what played a significant role in determining their reputation is the achievements of their students and alumni.
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 3, 2008 - 04:18 AM
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well in some way its not always the student`s fault that he or she cant progress and develope his way of education or the method, The scool and the Goverment its self takes a huge part of this responsibilty in many ways.
a school might be better than another because this one has more facilities than that , this has more mony to spend on its acitivities and that doesn`t. The teachers them selves also have a great affect. As we see many teachers take care of the student as if they were their own children , others dont care for them.
also one important thin is that some schools practice what they take at scool in practical life but others dont have the chance or they just dont do it >>
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 4, 2008 - 07:42 PM
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Some schools are better than others for a lot of reasons.
Money--enough money to hire teachers who got quality degrees at good universities, enough money to hold on to those teachers when they see that they could be making a lot more elsewhere.
Background of the kid--if they have two working parents and were raised in daycare and never had a book read to them when they were little, it's going to take a lot of genetics-based intelligence to make school as it stands today a good place for that kid. If they're raised in a home where they're read to all the time and learning is exciting and expected, even a kid who isn't noticably bright will probably do well.
Temperament of the kid--obviously.
Local culture--I teach at a poorly funded, overcrowded school where a lot of the kids have very busy parents and a lot of siblings to fight with for the attention of their parents. Many of them do well anyway because it's EXPECTED, in capital letters, that they will go to college.
Background of the parents--if they know to read to their child, if they know what good nutrition is and feed their child right, if they had a good experience with education, if they respect schools and teachers and don't expect the school to raise the kid for them.
And teachers--I'm sick of teaching but I'm a very good teacher. My kids learn a lot, but not so much this year, because I hate doing this anymore. We are underfunded, so I have too many kids in my classroom, and my "I give a damn" button has flipped into the "off" position.
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 9, 2008 - 08:42 AM
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kwolf12 wrote:
Some schools are better than others for a lot of reasons.
Money--enough money to hire teachers who got quality degrees at good universities, enough money to hold on to those teachers when they see that they could be making a lot more elsewhere.
Background of the kid--if they have two working parents and were raised in daycare and never had a book read to them when they were little, it's going to take a lot of genetics-based intelligence to make school as it stands today a good place for that kid. If they're raised in a home where they're read to all the time and learning is exciting and expected, even a kid who isn't noticably bright will probably do well.
Temperament of the kid--obviously.
Local culture--I teach at a poorly funded, overcrowded school where a lot of the kids have very busy parents and a lot of siblings to fight with for the attention of their parents. Many of them do well anyway because it's EXPECTED, in capital letters, that they will go to college.
Background of the parents--if they know to read to their child, if they know what good nutrition is and feed their child right, if they had a good experience with education, if they respect schools and teachers and don't expect the school to raise the kid for them.
And teachers--I'm sick of teaching but I'm a very good teacher. My kids learn a lot, but not so much this year, because I hate doing this anymore. We are underfunded, so I have too many kids in my classroom, and my "I give a damn" button has flipped into the "off" position.
hmmh, pretty clear . . . that this is coming from an experienced teacher. You made a whole lots of sense to me. I feel you. . . I'm wishing you the very best in your career this new year. . . 
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 9, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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hmmh, pretty clear . . . that this is coming from an experienced teacher. You made a whole lots of sense to me. I feel you. . . I'm wishing you the very best in your career this new year. . . *
Thanks. At this point I'm looking for another job, and hoping that I might find a niche where I could help facilitate a switch over from the old textbook-based educational system to a technology-based, possibly online-community based system.
A friend of mine did a graduate research program where they used a computer game to help students take interest in and evaluate poetry. The computer program was nearly as basic as MSDOS, and while it did engage the kids, I thought--there's something wrong here. Why did the graduate students and professors write this program?
How much better would it be if students had been given the tools to write the program? How much better if 14 to 20 year-olds were each contributing their own small piece of programming--one little unit at a time, until, wiki-like, a completely new educational system arose?
If anyone's aware of anyone trying to create a system like this, would someone please tell me?
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 9, 2008 - 12:15 PM
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@kwolf
you're welcome.
. . .and In response to your question, I really don't know bout any one writing such programs.
I pray you get a better offer this year.
Regards
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 9, 2008 - 01:39 PM
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Yes. Really some school are better than othes. But before discussing that why are some schools better, it is important to know what does it mean by beeing better. Being better is not the matter of scores or results. A school is better if :
1) it tells to students why to study(this is very important).
2) it provides good environment and sources.
3) it helps studenst to improve their overall efficiency i.e not only in acadamics but also in co-curricular activities, sports ect.
4) I netshell, the motive of school should not be to make good scholars but to make good citizens.
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Re: why are some school better then others
January 23, 2008 - 01:50 PM
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I think that generally the awnser is pretty simple as to why some schools perform better - have higher test scores, more graduates, more university bound students etc - MONEY! Unfortunately schoos in districts with wealthier students generally perform better, and not just becuase thier parents most likely are more educated. There is more of a climate of success, a pressure to work hard in school. There is also better lab equipment and newer textbooks thanks to private donations. Also wealthier parents are able to use their money to put extra pressure on school boards. I had the fortune of going to school in probably the poorest district of the city where I grew up as well as in the wealthiest and the schools wee night and day. The school in the wealthier district was more academic, cleaner and students, regarding of individual family wealth, had better opportunities outside of school. Let's put it this way i went to an elementary school in the wrost district and myself along with my classmates and freidns from the nearby schools were not aware that French had verbs as well (though we had been studying it since grade 1) until grade 9.
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January 23, 2008 - 03:56 PM
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Yes--money has a lot to do with it. And one thing that happens is that a poor school's A student would be getting a C by doing the same work at a rich school. This creates its own sort of disadvantage as the straight-A kid from the poor school gets to college and tries to compete with the A student from the rich school, finding that the study skills she/he has learned are inadequate to the task.
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