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Roshan Jeyakumar

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Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 27, 2003 - 05:54 AM

There planning to sell Canada's water! Are they right in doing so? Well these are the facts. The want to take water from the great lakes, this bay in newfoundland and some other places. Only an inch of water will be removed but this may add up to billions of gallons. Canada has about 20% of the fresh water in this world. If they remove the water it may do serious damage to the ecosystem.

PLEASE RESEARCH THIS TOPIC AND ANSWER YOUR THOUGHTS SHOULD THEY OR SHOULD THEY NOT?

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canada SHOULD sell its water to foreign businesses
March 27, 2003 - 11:16 AM

In my opinion, I believe that Canada should indeed sell its water to other countries and businesses. We have a huge amount of fresh water in Canada, therefore this can be an advatage to the government. By selling our water to other places, we could make large amounts of money off each country that actually buys the water. This can help us with our country by making more money.

Selling Canada's water is not only one way to help the government by producing in more income, it may also be a strong advantage for our country. Not only can we make money, we could aslo help developing countries with their water supply and system. In certain coultries, they dont have much water supply. Since we have a large amount of water, why not help out the others who seriously need the water to survive? Lots and lots of people are suffering from no water. Why would we watch other people die and not help them if we eventually can? Not only can we help others people, we would also give a good reputaion of Canada as helping other country. Therefore in the society, we would have a good impression to the other countries.

Helping other the countries is just something we should do. The result is that what we do for other people or countries, they would eventually repay us back in reply. If Canada sell its water, other countries, they would sooner or later repay us back with something we might need in use or would be useful. It would be a very strong advantage to the government and to the country.

With all the advantages it can bring us and to our country, I really do agree that Canada should sell its water to other countries.


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March 29, 2003 - 05:58 AM

UM Fiona use ur head. Canada does have alot of watere but still. The government has estimated that by the year 2025 we (CANADA) will suffer water shortage. Everyone knows that water is needed to live. And anyway, we won't really make a big profit. We actually make more profit by using it the way we are right now. (By charging cictizens of Canada for the water.) Infact these are the exact calculations. If we use our normal way we will be gaining about 1000000 dallars and we will spend about 10000 to get it to our customers. But if we sell it to other countries we actually get about 100000 and it takes us about 50000 to get the water over sea! If we give our water to one country then other countries will also ask and if we give the water to them they won't take care of their own water supplys. I have alot more to say but i think that u will understand what i mean from here. I havn't even begun to tell u what it can do to the ecosystem!


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 29, 2003 - 06:14 AM

all i know is that the water level is droping in the great lakes right now, taking more can have serious implications. As well, it's ture we have alot of water, but we also have alot of land and you must take that into consideration


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 29, 2003 - 06:23 AM

hey roshan, plz plz plz dun start wit da ecosystem!!
i do think that we should sell our water to other countries
because first of all check again all ur calculations, and all that water dat is being dumped bak in to da lakes, instead of just wasting dat water we should jst sell it and make a profit of it. and da so called "OUR WATER" is not out water cuz it dun belong to only us but it belongs to everyone in dis world. And if a country is in real despret need of clean water or just water for survival WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THEM! If u relly think of it ur being selfish and not wanting to help otha countries and derefore we will have a bad rep as a country lik fifi(fiona)said. SO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD SELL OUR WATER!!!!
AND we wont die, nietha will da fish in water if we take away 1 inch of water, tha lake is deep dammit! get dat through ur head! jeez and where u get da idea of da fish dying newayz?????lol


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 29, 2003 - 06:49 AM

C'mon roshan, not this topic again.

Canada should sell it's water. So what if Canada has a good economy. Sometimes people shouldn't look at what they gain but how they can be helping human being (you should try it sometimes roshan.)Do you really want all those people that don't have enough water to dye??? Think for instance that you lived in one of those countries that didn't have enough water, how you would suffer. Well people are going short of water today. Your just lucky you like in a envirornment with a good climate, water sorce, and natural resourses. Whats the point of Canada having the sorses if it can't use it to help others.

Why are people so worried about running out of water now that countries have asked to buy some, weren't they worried when they were wasting it. And it's not like they stoped. The Canadain are still wasting the water.


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March 29, 2003 - 07:45 AM

We should not sell our water because at present our very own water levels are dropping to dangerous levels.Canadians are the world’s largest consumers of water and we use 325 liters of water per day each just to drink, cook, and bathe making it wise to conserve water.If we should decide together to sell our water to various countries. This would further damage our water ecosystems. For example, in Saskatchewan, 50 percent of communities have water problems because they’re using well water and the quality isn’t good. Urban, rural, and government representatives need to cooperate to bring water up to a better standard through community-based watershed management. The St. Lawrence River and Great Lakes are at their lowest levels since 1969 and we should not ignore our own water issues. It would be an imprudent and unwise thing to do to sell our own water when we ourselves are suffering from water affairs.

I believe that water is going to play an even more important role in the future and we have to work together to use it wisely and make sure its not wasted. We must protect the water in our country so its available to the people of Canada. It is true that we do not own the water in truth, but others have claimed they’re water as their own before and they have consumed so much of it that they are in need of our water as well. Industrial growth and urban sprawl are also pressuring water resources in our country. Within natural fluctuations, Canada's freshwater ecosystems depend upon water levels remaining consistent or there it may cause damage to the ecological balance. Many marine life depend on water to remain at sufficient levels. We must also be aware that we share the water with the fmarine life. It would be ravenous to remove their water.

It is true that we posses 20% of all the fresh water in the world. It may seem as though we are being unreasonable to not sell some of the fresh water that we have. But you must look at the facts before you decide to judge us before you know our true intentions. Only half of the amount of fresh water that we contain is renewable. In fact, the UN predicts that we’ll all have water shortages by the year 2050. Water is too precious a resource and heritage to turn into a common commodity. Exporting actual water will simply perpetuate the cycle of under-valuing and
over-using the resource. It is also highly likely that water sales would go to the most profligate and reckless wasters of water (such as U.S. agriculture in desert areas) rather than to those poverty-stricken areas most in need of water for basic survival. although it might improve our economy it wouldn’t last very long until we too run out of fresh water, many canadians believe it is in our best interest to stop exportation of water due to the many unknown effects, and those effects don’t have a resolution. Hence, we shouldn’t turn our water into a commodity. Water…we all need it!


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 29, 2003 - 08:35 AM

Roshan,

Okay, by selling our water to other countries doesnt mean that we actually have to sell 100% of the water that exists in our system. We may only like sell only 30% of our water to other countries. We have so much water, and why cant we use at least a minimun amount to help out other while we even have the ability to at this present moment?

Only 30% of our water taken up wouldnt damage our whole ecosystem. To make our country a better place to live, we have to bring in more income so people in the society and the government would actually do something very useful with the amount of money coming in. So therefore, even if we take a fraction of the water supply we have, that doesnt mean we'll totally damage our ecosystem!!!!


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THE FISH THE FISH! SAVE THE POOOOOORRR FISH!!!
March 29, 2003 - 09:41 AM

Listen thick headed people! (except benjyman) If we even take out 1 cm it will be taking away about a million gallons of water. This can cause some of the plants and algea to be destroyed. Some fish rely on these certain types of algea. If those fish die it will cause a chain reaction. The fish that eat the fish will die. The animals that only eat fish will die. those animals the eat the animals that eat the fish will die. eventually we have a chance of dying. And please don be stupid and say that the fish won't die and even if they do we won't die because consider this: If the base of a pyramid (in this case the plants in the water) breaks apart what will happen to the rest of the pyramid. If ur not dumb u would of sed that it would fall and the whole entire pyramid will be destroyed.
Next point: this is aimed straight towards Jonis: The fact is that most of the countries suffering water shortages are really poor countries such as nepal! In nepal only the rich, greedy, evil people are rich. They will be the only people to buy it off us because unfortunaltely it is costly to by imported water. So no jona we are not saving poor people that truly need the water, we are only feeding the fat snobby rich people.
Next: Do u guys understand the fact that in about 25 years we will face a water shortage. Everyone seams to think that water is plentiful and everlasting but no it isn't. Already some cities in canada are facing water struggles. We don't want to speed up the process with dumb remarks like don't be selfish!
Next point: Fiona are u crazy? 30%? That is basically all the water that is renewable! Listen out of all the fresh water in the world we have about 21.7%. Well reality is that out of that percent about 15% is frozen! 5% is polluted and is not suitable to drink. So all that remains is 1.7%. R u saying that we should give 30% of our water. U r a perfect example of pure stupidity. If u were the prime minister of Canada we would all be dead by now!
Next point: Just because we have 1/5 of the worlds fresh water does not mean that we have the most. Actually the one with the most water is Iceland. Fortunately they are smart enuff to realize that even their water is not plentiful. They are not selling there water. If they are not selling thier water doesn't that wake u guys up and tell u that their is a good reason to not sell the worlds water.
Next point: Some countries have sold water. But recently they have stopped , not because they realized the truth but because they had started to face a shortage! They tried to ask countries to help them but they got no help! So even if we do give water and we run out no country will be willing to do the same.
Next point: Hey yoni hoo tol u that the water is being wasted. Use ur brain Joni is the water that goes down the drain being wasted NOOOOOO! it is being something we called reused! It goes back into the ocean at some point and gets revitalized and come back through the pipe!
Next point: You know what is actually going on in the real world today. In the debate about selling canada's water, the biggest point that u guys have is that the water will refill itself within 10 hours! Guess what within ten hours alot of plants will die and that will have alreadey caused some damage to the ecosystem. And here is a good question to that nutcase that stated this point in the debate: Where is all that refill gonna come from? Well the ansa to that is that it will come from another lake!
Next point: Here is a very good point to sukhpreet! The countries that have water shortages will be better off if the could use the method called desalination. This process is when the take out all the salt in the water. They have found out how to do this already but no1 uses it for some reason! Well i have cheked it out and i have found out that it would actually cost them alot less money for them to just desalinate their water!
Next point: They have recently found out how to make water from fresh air! This is very good! Unfortunately the stupid companies are not releasing this project yet! But why don't we just wait for this and take advantage of this!

I don't beleive that i should say more because this should be enuff to even convince the government!


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U go Yoni
March 30, 2003 - 01:10 AM

I agree with yoni
Drop the topic Roshan and I'm behind everyone that says water should be sold!!!
Look at all the people we would be saving. Maybe u should care more about the lives of hopeless humans and less about ur FISHES!!!!!!


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GO GO GO GO GO BENJAMIN => ITS ur birthday
March 30, 2003 - 01:12 AM

Exaclty what im saying! Go benjamin! I rest my case!


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 30, 2003 - 01:15 AM

Pleas keerathana! Read over all my points! Because i dare u to give me one good reason why we should sell the water.... one reason for which i have not alredy destroyed the likes of! I am just telling u now if we don't save the fishes we will save bout 100000 people but about 10000000 people will die because of the pyramid situation! I really don give a care for the fish but the rest of humanity does depend on them wheather they beleive it or not!


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 30, 2003 - 08:24 AM

You guys are actually taking this seriously.

First of all, its not like the water isn't renewable. As yoni and fifi said were not going to sell all the fresh water. Just by selling a bite won't haut us.

You people who think that we shouldn't sell our water are selfish.

Oh ya, roshan and benjamin, just by copying out facts from the internet and from your notes from the school debate you are not proving your point.


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Re: Should water in Canada be sold to stores?
March 30, 2003 - 09:58 AM

Sukhpreet, tell me how me and benjamin have not provin our facts? Tell me how ur facts even seem right! Well guess what ur facts don even make sense and ur grammer is terrible! R u saying that our points are wrong? In situations like this i think that it is better to be selfish than sorri! If we are going to be nonselfish and give the water we will be sorri! Great danger will come upon us. The water levels arte alredy dropping. This is already causing disturbances in the ecosystem! Please sukhpreet, don't say things that u r not sure about! Tell me any reason why we should sell, And only tell reason for which i have not given ansers to alredy!

1 MORE THING I HAVE ALREDY SED THAT EVEN 1 CM OF WATER TAKEN AWAY WILL DO GREAT DAMAGE. bUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS PLANING ON IS LIKE INCHES (NOTE INCHES NOT INCH (PLURAL)).


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To all those who feel water will go to the most needy
March 30, 2003 - 12:39 PM

Fionalau and Sukhpreet,

I disagree with turning water into a common commodity. As Fiona stated it may not damage our ecological balance now, but within years of exporting our fresh water, there are many unknown and lethal consequences that may result. Many officials believe that once the water is a commerce, the government would fail to surveilance the amount of water being exported. Although it is true that we should be more generous as a prosperous country, we shouldn’t sell our water. Doing so would just mean the most profligate wasters of water would receive the water instead of those countries that are poverty striken and have a defiency of water supplies. This is because once our water becomes a commodity those underprivileged and poor countries would not be able to compensate for the water. So to all those who believe water would actually go towards those who truly need it, that may never happen.Many feel that once we begain exporting massive amounts of water our economy would flourish. Are we really helping the world by selling our water, instead we are exporting water to those who are wealthy such as the USA. It may help our economy, but think of what would happen when the time comes when we ourselves becmome poverty striken and lack water supplies. If we aren’t going to help those in need, then why should we sell the water to those who dispose of it the most. As canadians we should have the right to conceal our water and conserve it wisely until the time arrives when we will need it.


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