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imran khan laghari
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Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 8, 2006 - 05:11 AM
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Now days in Sindh Pakistan, currently women are really suffering badly due to lots of worst problems going on agnist them. The main problems of women are lack of awareness regarding their social and legal rights. Due to this lacking they are suffering badly with problems of hunour killing, treating like animal, consider them as brith machine, house keeper and just deaf and dumb who just listen not give any right to participate. EVen a girl was killed in feilds by her brother as she was watching a boy two kilometers away from here, is it justification to kill a girl that she saw a boy who is even not visiable to her. These type of killings are on regular basies daily newspapers are full of such news. Women are keeping away from education and health facalites. Now its apeal to all those women international organizations who are working for women in the world on different areas please take steps come forward for this worst problem of women suffereing to save, secure, preserve and help women to come out from this critical phase and regain thier liberty.To provide platform where they can skeap, talk, share and discuss this problems. If no one take voice for this problem it really destroy the honour of a woman. I am afriad that women will forget thier rights in the future in this part of world. It is real threat and serious issue. If no one come ahead then, who will stand on behalf of women having no rights???????????
This post was edited on: 2006-11-08 at 05:17 AM by: imranlaghari
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Re: Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 8, 2006 - 12:48 PM
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There was a time, long ago, when the U.S. was just as socially backward towards women. They could not own property or vote, and beating them was discouraged but still happened frequently. Women did not usually go to school past the 8th grade.
In my country, women were given rights because some very brave and outspoken women were willing to fight against the status quo. They used non-violent protest (and their influence over their husbands) to force the government to enact laws that gave them some basic protections, and then the right to vote. Since then, women have still not always been treated equally but they are close to it.
The main challenge for muslim countries seems to be the justification for mistreating women outlined in the Sharia laws. This will be the hardest evil to overcome, but there was an analogous situation in America before the Civil War when many people interpreted parts of the Bible as proof that owning black slaves was justified. The blacks were eventually freed anyway, so it is not impossible to overcome the backwardness of a religion.
Whatever else happens, women in middle eastern countries should not give up hope. They just need a muslim equivalent to Susan B. Anthony, or an Abraham Lincoln.
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Re: Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 9, 2006 - 03:55 PM
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I myself am a young female adolsence. I do understand what you are saying but it is not just those women in those countries that have cultural beliefs that are doing this, sometimes it is men in our society that believe women should "bow down to their grace". Its not forgetting, its simply not trying hard enough to get past those things that other countries have choosen to allow, that we have changed in life and decided to strive for one thing everyone wanted to agree on. Equality. Not every bad thing in life is going to disappear, you will still have things in life that others want to take away, but we will get closer to the one thing we all want when some women really start standing up more for themselfs as humans and they are treated equal.
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November 10, 2006 - 04:16 AM
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[quote]The main challenge for muslim countries seems to be the justification for mistreating women outlined in the Sharia laws
this statement is quite ambiguous. May i please get more clarification?
i think women are mistreated because of the values and ideology that are anchored in societies' mind throughout the history of the human being...
Men were always the strong, active, vital element. they hunted, cultivated, protected, drank beer and laughed loud in the middle of the night, and came back to their wives any time they wished to get whatever they want (their passion thrives too hard to be blocked).
Women were always there to breed and cook and clean house, true. but they also bonded the family, raised the kids, and created an identity to the family.
the thing that's not really obvious to everybody is that the two elements are equal in importance, even if their roles changed in the modern age.... and what women are doing to do in order to make justice is breaking the misconceptions to show they are as capable as their male companions/ competitors... which is a bit hard. even if laws are issued, they will be seen as inferior for the time being. imagine a woman working as a mechanical engineer (manly manly manly) how will she be viewed? " go you little lady and do your nails, and we'll take care of business" she really needs to work hard to prove that she's more than a pretty daughter of eve... more than that, she needs to prove she's a smart eve to be respected!
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Re: Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 11, 2006 - 02:06 PM
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HeavensRaining wrote:
[quote]The main challenge for muslim countries seems to be the justification for mistreating women outlined in the Sharia laws
this statement is quite ambiguous. May i please get more clarification?
i think women are mistreated because of the values and ideology that are anchored in societies' mind throughout the history of the human being...
Men were always the strong, active, vital element. they hunted, cultivated, protected, drank beer and laughed loud in the middle of the night, and came back to their wives any time they wished to get whatever they want (their passion thrives too hard to be blocked).
Women were always there to breed and cook and clean house, true. but they also bonded the family, raised the kids, and created an identity to the family.
the thing that's not really obvious to everybody is that the two elements are equal in importance, even if their roles changed in the modern age.... and what women are doing to do in order to make justice is breaking the misconceptions to show they are as capable as their male companions/ competitors... which is a bit hard. even if laws are issued, they will be seen as inferior for the time being. imagine a woman working as a mechanical engineer (manly manly manly) how will she be viewed? " go you little lady and do your nails, and we'll take care of business" she really needs to work hard to prove that she's more than a pretty daughter of eve... more than that, she needs to prove she's a smart eve to be respected!
This post was edited on: 2006-11-10 at 04:17 AM by: HeavensRaining
Not disagreeing with you, but I meant that the laws have to change before the society will change. Or at least that's how it worked in U.S. history.
In America, it is increasingly acceptable for women to do masculine jobs, like CEO or engineer. The stereotype of women as homemakers took generations to die down, and in many ways its still not completely dead (we have never had a female President, and female soldiers can't serve on the front lines)
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No one can stand against Womens' Rights
November 14, 2006 - 08:46 AM
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Actually... my God-Mother is is a CEO over Engineering. As "manly" as the position is said to be, it's really not. Heck, when I went there for a "bring your child to work day" several years ago, the place seemed exactly as It would be if a man was running it. Despite this, each time we visit her home for parties, she shifts to become the motherly figure that everyone within the household respects.
At the same time, I have a mother but no father. She's not seeking a relationship at all, and she's done her best with me. Knowing that I'd be missing somewhat of a father figure, my mother acted as that father figure and as a mother, nuturing me when I needed it most, and pummeling me fiercely when I stepped out of line. After taking taking hits from her that actually hurt me more than a grown man hitting me later on in life, I can officially say for myself that women can anything but 'girly' if they put their minds and body to it...
...Ugh, the memories of it...
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Re: Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 16, 2006 - 03:44 AM
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dear you are right.
but here we have to dicuss some important point why these thing happen in pakistan specially in sindh.
Actually these thing happen when you have lost your identity your culture your goal your purpose of living your origional philosophy of living standrard,
did we lost these?
yes
and i am one of living evidance of these things, systamitically some forces created such hard net of economical, social and moral problems over to us and they made theme selves as they only have to command to drive the things.
My dear yes this is true the girl was killed by his brother for wrong charge by on other part one boy also faced same situation.
so this is not question of only woman rights but also we have rise question about all our rights of freedom which captured by some hidden forces, which called themselves democrate and rulling on countery in armed uniform.
so we all think about it and we need to help for education social standard and rights protection.
and also we need to open face of allies of that persons inside and outside of country.
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Re: Who can stand on behalf of Women having no rights???????????
November 16, 2006 - 01:15 PM
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HeavensRaining wrote:
i think women are mistreated because of the values and ideology that are anchored in societies' mind throughout the history of the human being...
Men were always the strong, active, vital element. they hunted, cultivated, protected, drank beer and laughed loud in the middle of the night, and came back to their wives any time they wished to get whatever they want (their passion thrives too hard to be blocked).
Women were always there to breed and cook and clean house, true. but they also bonded the family, raised the kids, and created an identity to the family.
Is it so? Anthropologists still havent brought forward concrete proofs to substantiate these claims.
check out the following site for another perspective.
[link="http://www.marxists.org/archive/reed-evelyn/1954/matriarchal-brotherhood.htm"]
I can say this can be true because i come from a place where Matriarchy and Matrilineal families were the norm.And still is !
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