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Simona - Loredana Checherita

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CRY
March 19, 2003 - 01:41 AM

I don't mean for this to be some great post, but I wish SO much that it would raise awareness.

WHAT ARE WE DOING???

I was expecting this war to happen, but now that it is here I still can't believe it... It's like, the worst nightmare! What are we doing? What are we doing to the other people? What are we doing to our children, for God's sake? Why did we let Pride enter our lives? We're going to pay so dearly for this... I cry for all the innocent, for all the dead that we'll see, for all the children that will never have a future!

Why do you think it will all go away soon? This man does not believe in rules; he's got no conscience, he doesn't care! He plays no games!

People begin their lives loving unconditionally, but pride first deprives them of love, then of their own lives.
We are a self-destructing race. We spend way too much time worrying about money, about houses, about appearance, about clothes and other material things... about future in general. Where does Love fit in all this? Can't you see, there will be no future unless we take care of the present!!!

Don't rely on leaders to take care of you. It's YOUR life! Make your own decisions! What gives you the guarantee that those are GOOD leaders? What are the chances that they don't belong there? We see it happen around us every day.

It's little things that make a difference. Please make a difference NOW! Go home and hug your children and tell them that you'll always be there for them, no matter what. Buy a flower for your wonderful, enduring wife. Talk to your parents and tell them how much you love them for doing their best to raise you. Call on your neighbour to ask them for forgiveness. Take a minute to greet the poor man on the street and try to help him with as much as you can; you might have no money on you, but you surely have a warm hand to offer...

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very touching indeed
March 19, 2003 - 03:10 AM

we make life the way it is. We have been given the upper hand by God to decide on what we wish for and do what seems right to us.If these guys who call themselves leaders dont want to do what is right,we better keep on with life and do what seems right.
Making war is no sense. It helps not solve existing problems, but regenerate future problems.War is and will never be the best means to calm down situations. There is no more diplocy on earth and that is why war governs us now.
Where on earth can we hide to be at rest and at peace? NO WHERE!!

GOD HELP US!!


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Let's try to be a little selfless
March 19, 2003 - 09:29 AM

I know some might be thinking that the war is not of great concern to them, but lets pause and think of the many souls that are likely to be lost especially the kids. some of these kids might even watch their parents die. they might decide there and then in their little innocent hearts to unleash terror on the world in the future. here starts the making of a potential terrorist or more heart wretching, a suicide bomber. lets take a minute to pray for the Kids in Iraq and i believe God will listen to us


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calm down
March 19, 2003 - 10:08 AM

The war is a horrible thing! But it will barely affect you. Its not like you're going to fight. Its not like your little community is going to be bombed. CALM DOWN!


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*gasp* how can you say such a thing???
March 22, 2003 - 08:34 AM

Matthew or whoever you are, how can you say such a thing? True, it does not affect us, but have you not the heart to think of those who are affected? Those who are risking their lives right now?! Those who might never see their families again?! Think of THEM!!! Not just us, but THEM! Lives, no matter who's life, has a value, and it very precious! Nothing in the world can ever replace it! Life is granted once to a person - once it's gone, it's gone. Never would there be a person like those brave people in war right now. So why are they risking their own life to do such an uncivilized thing like war?! It's terrible!


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Re: CRY
March 22, 2003 - 09:44 AM

Perhapes it is that very feeling of impotance which is maddening. There is a very small group of men who have this world by the strings and they don't care a lick about the rest of us. They are drunk on power - Saddam as much as the rest.

You can't be surprised we are at war. It happens It has ever been, It is in ourselves. This men with the world on strings, they are no bigger than you or I. They are pawns in history.

No Bush does not care what you think about this war. He is doing what He wants. He got religion, that much is clear. He is starting to attribute his ideas to God.


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Re: CRY
March 25, 2003 - 01:26 AM

You're so right about this. Thank you for saying it!


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Re: CRY
March 25, 2003 - 03:52 AM

Thank you. And by the way, most of what you say is very insightful M.

-L


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Re: calm down
March 26, 2003 - 08:51 AM

Dear AntiHero, I hope you don't mean what you're saying... 'Cause it would be REALLY sad! Anyway, I thank God there are still people with a heart. Maybe you should get rid of your black T-shirts and stop listening to rock music and then maybe you'll get in touch with your heart too. Your face is frowned, RELAX! wink
Seriously now, I was in a state of shock reading your message. How can there be such people? What is the purpose of your life here, on Earth? Are you only living for yourself? Allow me not to agree! We are all connected to the others, like in a circle. Do you always choose to sit back and let someone else decide for you? I may not use a lot of words in order to make a statement, but it should give you something to think about and decide for yourself what is right or wrong.
And I DO suffer for all the children that are being hurt as we speak! I find it difficult to lead a normal day-to-day life when I think of this. Something inside of me is dying!!! I wish I had the power to stop it now! The feeling of helplessness is driving me insane! What is happening in this world is going to last... It is already affecting us, and it only began a few days ago. Think about what it's going to be like later on, how much worse things will get.
Do you have a family, Matthew? I bet you do. Would you care if something bad happened to them? Would you hurt if they died horrible deaths? Would you cry if one of them lost an arm or a leg without actually being guilty of anything? Would you feel carefree if your child suffered injuries and burns on his little body? Could you sleep peacefully if you were frightened for your life any single moment and heard bombs falling all around you? Would you want to live if you got no food on your table, no water to drink, no safe place to lay your head, no security for your family? Would YOU care?
Those people are just like that, Matthew! They are just like you! Do you care now?


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Direct Results
March 27, 2003 - 05:00 AM

We may not see immediate threats against our lives in America, we do not see Iraq's 6000 year old buildings and temples being blown to bits, and we sure do not see our own soldiers bomb our own troops. Yet, we know this is happening. Some people say, we can't see it so its like it isnt happening to us. But we KNOW, we as humans, know it is wrong and know that something has to stop it. I believe it does affect us. Just look at other countries that have stopped importing our products and ones that are fighting against us. Although it would be best to stay out of the whole thing, our situation is that we must do something. Not doing anything would be wrong but sometimes we cannot do anything for a hopeless situation. Therefore I agree that it is sad that we must endure this stupidity in our lifetime, however we can do something about it if we are brave enough to stand up against the world, or at least our country.


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Re: CRY
March 28, 2003 - 08:03 AM

I almost support this war, except the way that Bush has gone about starting it is just plain wrong! We need to get rid of Saddam because of the way he treats his people. Do you know what he does to the men that refuse to join the army? He has them shot, stabbed, and put in a room with pipes that are a few inches apart from one another and these pipes drip acid, but there is nowhere to go to get away from the acid. I know this because one of my best friends has an uncle who went through this torture; this is why I think we should get rid of Saddam, I just think Bush could have approached this problem better.


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War may be a good thing for the future!
March 28, 2003 - 08:23 AM

You are all talking about the poor souls that might get hurt as a result of this terrible war. There is no doubt that you guys are right, but you have to think of the future and of many other Iraqi people (eventually, most of them won't die from war). Saddam Hussein is a terrible leader that hurts his own people anyways (even without war)-Stalin # 2. In addition, not only that his own people are hurt, but he is a big threat to the rest of the world. Many will say that he never attacked a country without them starting a war (except of Kuwait) but it doesn't matter. He is still capable of it, and I won't be suprised if he has those plans already (HE IS INSANE).

So maybe innocent citizens will die (and believe me I'm VERY sorry for their lives and hope they can escape somehow), but on the other hand, if Saddam isn't taken out of power many of these citizens and others from different places (USA, ISRAEL, other ARAB countires or European) may get hurt and a total disaster will occur.

Think about the FUTURE and many other ASPECTS (Iraq's economy, education etc. may improve in the future.

MAY G-D bring peace to this world!!!

P.S - I am a person that believes in PEACE and hopes to solve problems through negotiations, not WAR!!

but sometimes there is no more choice.....


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Hmm
March 28, 2003 - 08:33 AM

The United States should care about the United States. I mean, we already think we are the most prosperous and best country in the world, so why shouldn't we only care for ourselves. If some other dictator/president of a country wants to treat their citizens like dirt and slaughter them as if they were lab mice, let them. That may sound a bit cruel, but is it OUR problem? If our country wants to be the good neighbor and stop other countries from practicing their own laws, thats not right. How would we like it if some country decided we weren't handling something correctly and tried to push us to do it 'the right way'. Because, what is, the right way? There is diversity everywhere, and if people cannot accept differences, we will never get along. Morals and ethics shape us as humans but we should not be confined by them. Allow other people to live their lives as they want to. True, there are some things that are just wrong and everything but if they do not harm us and disable us from living happy healthy lives, why bother doing something about it? Therefore, I don't think we should bother with Saddam Hussein. If his own people haven't retaliated yet, why should we have something to do with it? If it is really a problem, he will be overthrown. Yea, I know how he is with his country and eveyrthing, but something can be done. If you work hard enough and try again and again, whatever you want can be accomplished.


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Re: CRY
March 29, 2003 - 04:36 AM

that is way to simple - no country is an island - we can't just pretend that the rest of the world is not there - the US should just care about the US idea is plain wrong, remember 9-11 - sooner or later the rest of the world will remind ou of their existance.


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Simona - Loredana Checherita

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Re: CRY
March 31, 2003 - 05:49 AM

I have read all your answers attentively, and I can honestly say I can understand all of you. I also respect your point of view. I have to add some things though...
I come from Romania, and I'm old enough to have experienced dictatorship. Our country was ruled by Ceausescu for many, many years. I know quite a bit about his "habits"... So many people suffered because of him! All the tortures... it was just inhumane! I remember we were afraid to say anything bad about him - which would have actually been the truth! - in our own houses. We heard all those stories about people who were jailed or killed just because they dared to do anything but praise the guy... We were FRIGHTENED! The system was so complex... It's never just the dictator, but there's a whole "army" behind him, people who are loyal to him. They're just about everywhere!
I also read a quite a few books about what the men in jails had to go through... and believe me I cried... You wouldn't even imagine how cruel people can be.
Wanna know what life was like for most of us? Well, first of all, we would have all kinds of large meetings and sang songs to glorify him, were "trained" to look happy and carefree while clapping our hands, put on big shows for him, hang his pictures everywhere (in every room, in every book)...
Next, food. What did we eat? We had some sort of tickets which allowed us to buy half a bread per day or four eggs per month. Chocolate was a very rare thing and you should have seen the huge lines of people who waited to buy something to eat. There were so many times when people were so afraid there would not be enough for everybody (and they were right) that they would start pushing and shoving. If you were a child, you had every chance to get yourself injured.

So I spoke in my first post as one who knows very well what it's like to live in such a country (of course, you should multiply that by ten to understand what the Iraqi people are living now). What I'm saying is that violence never solved anything. It just makes you think so. We have all seen boys fighting. One of them wins, and the other one just has to deal with the defeat, even if that means hating the other one to death. Hate is kept inside and it smoulders... It's just the way it goes (unless you practice forgiveness as part of your beliefs). Attacking Iraq was a huge mistake because they just don't apply the same rules. They think differently. They will just seek revenge and they will stop at nothing in order to get it. Iraqi leaders don't even care about their own people, what makes you think they care about you or me? This war is going to affect us in so many ways, especially since this is just the beginning...
So you think that "a few souls" don't matter, because the future will be bright... Well, I'm not so sure about it! Try to say it to the little child left behind who is going to live without a father and to the family that has lost their only son. Their lives are destroyed. How do you have a beautiful world if its people are unhappy???

Iraq is not the only country that is ruled by a dictator. If the people were so tired of it, I'm sure they would have rebelled at one point or another. Romanians did! People can be so strong! Dignity is built inside of us from birth. There always comes a time when you say "Why, I can't take it anymore!". Look at us, Romanians! We've been through so much, but we're free now. Thousands of people died in the Revolution, but at least it happened because WE wanted it to happen, not because some other nation forced this decision on us. I'm not saying that getting rid of Saddam is wrong; I'm saying that saving thousands but endangering millions is wrong! This will probably result in chaos...
Besides, you have to admit that there are also some personal interests (Bush Sr is involved as well). If you have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm more than willing to disclose all that for you.

Bottom line is, WAR IS NO SOLUTION! It just increases tension and makes things worse.
We are all watching this war on television, as if it were some video-game. But can you really feel their pain? Have you ever felt such pain? Did you see their faces? Mothers dying with their babies in arms... Can you even breathe??? We should bow our heads in shame... for EVERYBODY is somebody!


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