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Carstocea Stefan

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[Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 07:44 AM

What do you think ? Does he deserve this punishment ? Why yes/no ?

I think that it would've been better if he was imprisoned for life. My opinion is that there will be more terrorist attacks, and the civil war won't stop in Irak, simply because Saddam had lots of supporters, and he still has them. Many Iraqis are glad because of this, they think their problems will stop with Saddam being killed, but I don't think so ...

What's your opinion ?



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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 12:42 PM

I stand on the side of those who defend Saddam from death sentence. this is in two arguments.First death penalt is now discouraged by the world at large because it is against human rights,moreover we have to think who are we teaching the lesson? why dont we think of alternative punishment the must be saved by Saddam himself in his life time rather than shortening his life leaving conflicts within the society.
Second is that;Saddam himself has a locus to file a case against US who wrongly accused him of possessing Nuclear Weapons,let us atlaest give him a chance to know his rights over false imprisonment.

This post was edited on: 2006-11-05 at 12:44 PM by: rukwago


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 01:11 PM

Well, death penalty is being discouraged because its against human rights, yeah correct, but Saddam does not deserve to be given the rights he has uncaringly and so arrogantly taken away from others. TThis guy commited vulgar crimes against humanity. Sentencing him to death is the least he deserves.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 01:59 PM

I would like Saddam to have altanative than death sentence!crying


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 05:39 PM

However, "evil" Saddam Hussien may be people can change. We label Saddam Hussien as a cruel dictator that murderously kills people. However if we were to kill him, wouldn't we be just as wrong. Every bible or holy text, be it from buddhism or islam, all believe in forgiveness. Saddam Hussien may of been a ruthless dictator but it does not mean that killing him is justified. It is important that we see through our anger towards him and choose the right choice. His death will not solve anything.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 08:22 PM


Carrots wrote:

Saddam does not deserve to be given the rights he has uncaringly and so arrogantly taken away from others. TThis guy commited vulgar crimes against humanity. Sentencing him to death is the least he deserves.


Firstly, I don't think we, as humans, have this right to forcefully take away someone else's life.

Secondly, I don't think two wrongs make a right...despite being cliche.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 5, 2006 - 11:58 PM

So long as Saddam is alive there is a danger of his returning to power, especially in a situation as unstable as Iraq -

think about that. I understand those who are against the death penalty in principal.

and the trial was...

well frankly "fair" is almost beside the point - judges, members of their family, lawyers on both sides - were MURDERED by radicals..

conducting the trial is dangerous, Holding him will be equally dangerous.


and to be blunt I think enough people have died on his account - it time to just end it and try to move on.

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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 6, 2006 - 12:45 AM

i would have agreed with a death sentence for Saddam for the all the crimes he committed.
but this case has a lot of loopholes which need to be fixed first !

Firstly I dont agree with the way the trial was conducted ...as dear Luke has pointed out, ..lawyers were murdered .... and
it was conducted without the involvement or participation of the UN and the tribunal was set up and authorized by the United States itself.
I dont think any state should have the power to take unilateral decisions like this.

secondly there are a lot of things which need to be investigated first ...
Saddams verdict should not be seen as a result of a personal grudge of Bush administrtion against him ...and the way the case was conducted many people around the world surely think on those lines !
Life imprisonment should have been a better choice atleast for the time being till more evidence is brought agaisnt him or at least till the situation in Iraq stablises and people get over the fact that Saddam regime was much better than the occupying regime confused


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 6, 2006 - 01:03 AM

I also believe that the problems in Iraq will increase with his execution...It might leat to a civil war or division of Iraq into two. Any ways there were so many questions raising all over the world on the judgement and whole trial process of Saddam.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 6, 2006 - 07:39 AM

i think it's pure justice.

we won't kill saddam and dance around his corpse but when someone kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people intentionally and be the indirect cause for million deaths and stop the progress of an entire country and do crazy things that result in this country being invaded and be the cause of sectarian violence among its people, then don't you think this man deserves death as a punishment.

in a calm country where most people don't believe in violence death sentence might be cancelled but in a troubled country like iraq it's is extremely not applicable to demand so. we are far behind western countries in develpment and you can't expect people here to think the same as you. it's like demanding death sentence cancelled in the 19th century in europe. these things come in steps gradually, same thing happened with freedom and human rights, our constitution supports them but in reality we don't have freedom simply because people don't know what it is and don't believe in it.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 7, 2006 - 03:48 PM


Hammodi wrote:

i think it's pure justice.

we won't kill saddam and dance around his corpse but when someone kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people intentionally and be the indirect cause for million deaths and stop the progress of an entire country and do crazy things that result in this country being invaded and be the cause of sectarian violence among its people, then don't you think this man deserves death as a punishment.

in a calm country where most people don't believe in violence death sentence might be cancelled but in a troubled country like iraq it's is extremely not applicable to demand so. we are far behind western countries in develpment and you can't expect people here to think the same as you. it's like demanding death sentence cancelled in the 19th century in europe. these things come in steps gradually, same thing happened with freedom and human rights, our constitution supports them but in reality we don't have freedom simply because people don't know what it is and don't believe in it.


Saddam is evil. Hanging is simply too good for him.

Talking with every survivor of his atrocities one by one for an hour each until he dies of old age would be more fitting. Or perhaps a video chat instead of looking through bullet-proof glass, seeing as he should probably be in prison somewhere outside Iraq where he has no allies to prevent a return to power.

Or he could just spend the rest of his life washing dishes in a Hague prison. I think that a life of menial labor would have a large effect on someone with such an enormous ego.

Whatever happens, I want him to have a very, very long time to contemplate what he has done.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 8, 2006 - 02:56 PM

We are living in the 21st century.

We live in the era when human rights are as much respected and advocated by many national and international human rights organizations as the right to live a decent life or to obtain a primary education is advocated and condoned by almost all governments.

Saddam Hussein did things that will not be forgotten and will forever blacken the historical period when he reined...

Media, with help of human rights groups, is usually instrumental bringing forth any evidence of violence and murder in any part of the world and condemning it. The hanging of Hussein is just as condemnable, in my opinion, as what he did to so many people.
Two wrongs never make right.

Moreover, imagine the distress and the impact this will have on so many people in the world, knowing that this hanging - a murder - is legal and decided upon by people in a legal way in a country where the USA - the most democraticcountry in the world where human rights respecting is as essential as anything can be - is trying to create and already claims of having achieved much of democracy.

I think personally that Saddam Hussein could have been easily condemned to a life sentence which would have as much an effect as such a punishment has on men of power in subduing and finally putting of that " insatiable fire" he had in him in his struggle for power.

I think killing him like this, and making all the noise and fuss out of it is not right- it doesnt belong to our century.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 19, 2006 - 11:51 AM

i can't believe what im seeing on these posts. DOES SADDAM ACTUALLY DESERVE TO LIVE? no he does not! he lost his rights after killing all those innocent people, men women and children. Those children could have been the ones to change our world, finding the cure to HIV/AIDS! Of course his life will not make up for all those lost, but the families who now have no father, mother or children and etc will have a chance to not live in as much fear as previous. OF course i believe in human rights but in this case, i really dont. How does he deserve to live? He doesn't its that simple! Maybe if he regretted what he has done but in court, didn't anyone watch that, oh yeah HE LAUGHED! You want this man to continue life? Im sorry but this man even if he was allowed to live, he would be sought out until he was killed by many people!


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 20, 2006 - 03:05 AM


smiley7130 wrote:

i can't believe what im seeing on these posts. DOES SADDAM ACTUALLY DESERVE TO LIVE? no he does not! he lost his rights after killing all those innocent people, men women and children. Those children could have been the ones to change our world, finding the cure to HIV/AIDS! Of course his life will not make up for all those lost, but the families who now have no father, mother or children and etc will have a chance to not live in as much fear as previous. OF course i believe in human rights but in this case, i really dont. How does he deserve to live? He doesn't its that simple! Maybe if he regretted what he has done but in court, didn't anyone watch that, oh yeah HE LAUGHED! You want this man to continue life? Im sorry but this man even if he was allowed to live, he would be sought out until he was killed by many people!


He can never be forgiven. Forgiveness, in my view, requires that you confess, make up for whatever you have done wrong and then apologize. Saddam can't possibly do this because what he has done is so monumentally wrong, so far beyond the scope of everyday sins. This sort of thing is tricky when human life is involved because there is no undoing what has been done.

The best that can be done is to force him to redeem himself as much as possible before he dies of old age. What is the point in hurting him? It would satisfy the urge for vengeance, but nothing is accomplished. I want him to suffer, and I want him to suffer slowly as he redeems himself, until the day he dies. True justice does not exist in this world, so sometimes we have to settle on the best available compromise.


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Re: [Poll] Saddam sentenced to death
November 22, 2006 - 08:46 PM

I completely agree that life imprisonment for Saddam is better than death.

We just continue the vicious cycle of violence when we kill someone for killing.

My country (India) still hasn't abolished the death penalty and I am hoping that it does.


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