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Youth cheating in games
November 1, 2006 - 03:46 PM
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What is it that makes young children cheat when playing games/sports?
What techniques can be taken to prevent youth from cheating?
Cheating, or the belief of cheating, often leads to agrument, anger and the lack of fun! It'd be much better to see young children focused on having fun than who did what to cheat.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 1, 2006 - 04:51 PM
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eakboo wrote:
What is it that makes young children cheat when playing games/sports?
What techniques can be taken to prevent youth from cheating?
Cheating, or the belief of cheating, often leads to agrument, anger and the lack of fun! It'd be much better to see young children focused on having fun than who did what to cheat.
Cheating is a funny thing. Our immediate reaction is to say that it is bad and that it should be prevented. But under some circumstances, it can be considered a good thing.
A while back I read about an experimental (ie as opposed to observational) study to test whether or not a child placed in a room with a toy - a super awesome train set nonetheless -and told not to touch it (there would be punishment). They were left in the room for a period of time and observed through a one-way mirror and/or a camera, I forget. Anyway, the scientist would then return and ask the child whether they had touched the toy - out of the ones who did touch/play with the toy, some lied and some didn't. then they did a series of 'intelligence' tests and 'problem-solving' tasks and found that those who lied were the most 'intelligent' and good at 'problem-solving' out of all the children involved.
It depends on the context of the cheating and the other factors that contribute to the serious 'badness' of the choice. Sometimes cheating could be seen as a method of breaking the mold or system or retaliation against stupid/unreasonable rules. Some institutions impose very rigid and stupid rules in my opinion.
BUT - if say, it's a game as you say - I guess, it's to win. I think it's stupid that people would value the win over the pure enjoyment of the game and gaming environment (teams, fans, etc). But maybe they're under extreme pressure from peers, coaches, parents to do well?
Cheating is a decision made by the individual in the end. Though they may be heavily pressured. I think to prevent unnecessary cheating, we must ensure that people/children are comfortable/confident with thinking through the consequences and the meaning of their decisions.
I guess, don't emphasise winning as the hallmark of success. Emphasise having fun or being a good team/team-member. Things like that. 
This post was edited on: 2006-11-01 at 04:52 PM by: cherrie
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 1, 2006 - 05:01 PM
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Without that shouldn't call them games or are you saying cheating in sport ? Even due it's also a game.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 1, 2006 - 08:51 PM
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I mean to say a non-academic activity. A sport, such as basketball, football/soccer, rugby, etc. or a game that is very similar to sports, i.e. 4 square, teatherball, tag, races, etc.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 11, 2006 - 06:53 PM
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Cheating is a thing that has been in our society as long as the human race as been around, I'm sure. I am also sure that even though what measures you would like to try that cheating will no disappear and still will exhist no matter what place you go to. In games/sports it is just a little more "noticeable" that students are cheating, but its not only student or youth its can be adults as well. I think its a little sterotypical to place "youth" in the catageory of cheating when its not always youth involed in sutiation like this.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 12, 2006 - 06:21 PM
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I don't mean to place blame. Cheating occurs and I believe it has it's place. In fact, I believe there is benefits in cheating (or those who are clever enough to cheat), but I won't go into detail.
Instead, I mean to question how to improve games/sports by laying out an atmosphere where cheating does not become the focus. Often in games, when cheating occurs it turns into a big argument about who cheated and how.
It is more important to focus on the fun of the game rather than who cheated.
I only focus on youth because I would like to be a part of setting out an environment where youth can have fun in games... not because I feel adults are somehow better than youth.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
November 21, 2006 - 09:21 PM
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As cherry said in the most wonderful words, cheating might be considered for fun. Maybe people want to have more fun in the game. Like the card game "cheat" for instance. The point of the game is to cheat but not get caught. Its really fun actually! Cool choice of words Cherry!. You made a real point.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
December 10, 2006 - 08:40 AM
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Cheating gets boring after a while.. really its not too problematic.. eventually ppl stop doing it.
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Re: Youth cheating in games
December 11, 2006 - 03:47 AM
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I guess in a way, a cheater can be like an inventor. To break away from the rules can mean identification of weaknesses in the system or perhaps interesting aspects that can be taken and developed further to improve the current game or create a new game altogether.
Though morally, I think cheating is still a no no. :P
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Re: Youth cheating in games
December 18, 2006 - 03:12 PM
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I like the way you put that Cherrie. I agree that the creativity of 'cheating' can improve the system.
Of course, it's easier and more fun for a lot of games to be played by the rules so that everyone is able to enjoy themselves. But there are definately certain situations that 'cheating' can be beneficial.
Say for example, brain teasers (such as those you may see in an IQ test). EX: You have three houses, each of which need to receive water, power, and gas. How do you connect these only crossing one line? How about without crossing any lines? With a diagram, it can seem rather challenging:
Power Water Gas
House #1 House #2 House #3
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