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The Assassination of President Bush.
October 28, 2006 - 05:56 PM
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When this movie was released i was to say the least disturbed, not to say slightly disgusted. What is the point of producing this immflamatory piece of film?
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
October 29, 2006 - 03:29 PM
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Well its simply going to say that people are getting bored with entertainment and movies, next thing you know movies will give people ideas to take something fake and make it real... its a bad idea that this movie came out its just stupid
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
October 30, 2006 - 11:53 AM
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SovietDragon wrote:
When this movie was released i was to say the least disturbed, not to say slightly disgusted. What is the point of producing this immflamatory piece of film?
Movies are like part of art, if you take this word to its extreme meaning and as such are not necessarily supposed to reflect reality or to simulate something real.
"Lord of the Rings" is a fantasy! There is no signle grain of reality in it besides the universal human values around which much of script evolves.
"Gone in 60 seconds" is a fiction about two brothers and how one saves another one, which might as well happen in real life.
"JFK" is a political movie aimed at trying to reconstruct the events happened on that dreadful day when JFK got killed.
The movie about Bush is, I would say also, piece of art, whether one likes it or no. I don't think we should seek any truth in it. Perhaps it conveys a message, or perhaps it is only a metaphore?
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 23, 2007 - 09:37 PM
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RE: mnopq
Although I can appreciate your points, I disagree that the title should be taken in the context of art. President Bush is alive. JFK was not when the film was made and the other two movies invloved fictional characters. I think that any movie that talks about killing a real, currently living, person is pretty sick.
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 24, 2007 - 08:23 AM
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I think that this particular issue raises once again the dilemma concerning freedom of expression Vs respect of national symbols...
This article sums up the circumstances of this dilemma, in rleation to Assassination of a President:
Row over Bush TV 'assassination'
The Republican Party in Texas has said it is "shocking" and "disturbing" that a TV drama is to depict the assassination of US President Bush.
Death of a President uses archive footage, actors and computer effects to portray the president being shot dead.
UK broadcaster Channel 4, who made the mock documentary, said it explored the effects of the War on Terror on the US.
But Gretchen Essell, a spokeswoman for the Republican Party of Texas, called for it not to be screened.
I cannot support a video that would dramatise the assassination of our president, real or imagined," she told the Press Association news agency.
"The greater reality is that terrorism still exists in our world. It is obvious that the war on terror is not over.
"I find this shocking, I find it disturbing. I don't know if there are many people in America who would want to watch something like that."
In addition:
Peter Dale, head of More4, described it as a "thought-provoking critique" of contemporary US society.
He said: "It's an extraordinarily gripping and powerful piece of work, a drama constructed like a documentary that looks back at the assassination of George Bush as the starting point for a very gripping detective story.
"It's a pointed political examination of what the War on Terror did to the American body politic.
This post was edited on: 2007-01-24 at 08:26 AM by: aymanelhakea
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 24, 2007 - 12:23 PM
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I have not watched the film so, I don't know what's there.
"Lord of the Rings" is a fantasy! There is no signle grain of reality in it besides the universal human values around which much of script evolves.
Lord of the Rings is so real to me. It's about war and power. Saruman uses his power to subjugate the land. His group is working on destructive materials, weapons. The dark side even tries to cut down trees to build their empire. It's an archetype.
Saruman is an emblem of an ambitious leader who wants to rule the world and use his weapons and vast armies to gain power over other people/other nations.
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 24, 2007 - 12:37 PM
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Butters wrote:
RE: mnopq
Although I can appreciate your points, I disagree that the title should be taken in the context of art. President Bush is alive. JFK was not when the film was made and the other two movies invloved fictional characters. I think that any movie that talks about killing a real, currently living, person is pretty sick.
Butters> While we deviate in our opinions, I suggest you take a peek at French TV. They have so called series of puppet shows - "Les Guignols" - which is usually issued every year, is usually as long as 1.5 hours and is nothng much but a satirized theatrical play imitating events happened during the year with antagonists as varied as Bush Jr, Chirac, Blair, and even Silvester Stallone in one play. In those shows things so incredible happen as Stallone kicking Bush Jr. etc. that you can see almost anything short of "death" of Bush (at least I havent seen yet). Not only these, but also short documental-styled ads are very frequently released. The language of these shows is usually french whereas ads might also be in english with french subtitles.
Yes, French, among other things, make so much fun not only of French but also English and especially American politics. Fahrenheit 911 of Michael Moore was by itself inspired from a similar french documentary, althougth I confess I have forgotten the name of it. (Reliable) people claim the french version, released some time prior to the Fahrenheit 911, is more interesting and includes more material.
Katea> Yes, indeed, Saruman was pictured and was, in my view, little more than a pawn in hands of a greater evil, which would prevail, were it not for Hobbits! So I wouldn't really give any parallel comparison of Saruman and any leader (evil) striving for world dominance.
H.
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 26, 2007 - 10:15 AM
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mnopq
They have so called series of puppet shows - "Les Guignols" - which is usually issued every year, is usually as long as 1.5 hours and is nothng much but a satirized theatrical play imitating events happened during the year with antagonists as varied as Bush Jr, Chirac, Blair, and even Silvester Stallone in one play. In those shows things so incredible happen as Stallone kicking Bush Jr. etc. that you can see almost anything short of "death" of Bush (at least I havent seen yet). Not only these, but also short documental-styled ads are very frequently released.
Yes, French, among other things, make so much fun not only of French but also English and especially American politics.
This post was edited on: 2007-01-24 at 12:40 PM by: mnopq
We have those shows in the US as well. The Comedy Central channel has two shows "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" that routinely rediculus American Politics (and others) and really shines light on how stupid many Americans are.
I do not have access to French TV. Could you send me a link where I could find the puppet show you mentioned?
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
January 26, 2007 - 01:25 PM
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Butters wrote:
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They have so called series of puppet shows - "Les Guignols" - which is usually issued every year, is usually as long as 1.5 hours and is nothng much but a satirized theatrical play imitating events happened during the year with antagonists as varied as Bush Jr, Chirac, Blair, and even Silvester Stallone in one play. In those shows things so incredible happen as Stallone kicking Bush Jr. etc. that you can see almost anything short of "death" of Bush (at least I havent seen yet). Not only these, but also short documental-styled ads are very frequently released.
Yes, French, among other things, make so much fun not only of French but also English and especially American politics.
This post was edited on: 2007-01-24 at 12:40 PM by: mnopq
We have those shows in the US as well. The Comedy Central channel has two shows "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" that routinely rediculus American Politics (and others) and really shines light on how stupid many Americans are.
I do not have access to French TV. Could you send me a link where I could find the puppet show you mentioned?
Check the the wikipedia article on "Les guignols" first.
It will give you and outline of what the idea is and who are the main antagonists! Then, in the links therein, you will find, among, other a link to the French Canal+ where "Les Guignols" can be found, and their videos. Unfortunately, I didnt find anything in English. I couldn't even chnage the language of the site, which is rather a normal case with French websites..
As you will nonetheless see from the Wiki site GW Bush along with some others is routinely ridiculized in "Les Guignols".
If I find something on the web with english subtitles I will let you know.
H.
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Re: The Assassination of President Bush.
March 7, 2007 - 01:35 AM
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Woowwww,, absolutely fanatastic, so Awsome, i am gonna be the first to devote my self for making it real,, just to assassinate Not President but Pig Bush,, Sorry guys, he deserve to be called like this,,,, simply he has deviated Human Rights rules,, why u people are just agianst Iran and Afghanistan, be strong man,, always be realistic,, dont put dust in ur eyes by urself,, Sorry Again if some one feels upset with my intentions.
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