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Ogunro Temitope
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 5, 2006 - 02:24 PM
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Hi friends,
I like this discussion. I have few things to add.
One, who says Africans are still asleep? There are many things to show that we are no more in any form of slumber! Can anyone kill each other in deep sleep? Can you install your own son as a minister while asleep? Or do you sign a contract with closed eyes? I personally believe, that non of us Africans are in anyway in a slumber...the only issues is sequel to the long unending colonialism, we have all cultivated some of the ideas of our colonial masters...forgeting the fact that they don't treat their own folks like they were treating us back then.
To cap it all, can anyone tell me that I'm still asleep as i'm typing this message? So on one point WE are all wide awaken to the trend(s) of things it is only that we decide not to do anything to truncate it.
On the 2nd point, I'll strongly advise all that are saying we are not educated to kindly refrain from that. A considerable numbers of Africans are now educated...so what is the point in saying education is inhibiting our progress...The only point i see about this is that, WE only allow some of these things to happen. Can anybody tell me that the Government of a country may just delibrately sign in a fictitiously looking pact if they have not seen an angle to suit their own selfish interest. I believe our people all know what they are doing...What we only need to do is to always explore ANY opportunity to change things for the better.
This piece goes to all AFRICAN Youths. Pls, can you answer vividly that you will not take a tip/bribe or whatever if given to you by a "supposed" or a "known" unworthy person if he/she is contesting for a polical position? Note: that the form of the tip/bribe may differ. You may say, "If you don't other will take it".
Like this tread goes, the time is ripe for us to start showing our disaproval of corruptions. Lets start seeing in clear lights.
Develop communitiies only reached those positions based on the fact that the "leaders" have "followers" that can react on "time". Sincerely if not, things wouldn't have been better as it is today.
Thus, friends the deal is set, a great thing starts with a small thing...a small step...
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 6, 2006 - 12:49 AM
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A lot of what people are saying is very interesting. But is it just Africa that should wake up or should the world wake up. It is difficult for a undeveloped country to deal with a lot of social problems because they simply don't have the time or the power. It is the responsibility of us as a global society to help various undeveloped countries develop.
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 6, 2006 - 04:37 AM
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i would honestly say that i
wont take a bribe from an
aspirant becos i dont think abt my today only..i think abt my tomorrow
and the next and the next
.........lets not make this thread to ambigious..let us stick to
the wake up call for
africans.......how long can
the globe help acertain pple? how long is the globe planning to
feed developing or
underdeveloped countries.a proverb says teach a child not
only to feed but to farm so he may survive on his own
in future....
temitope.....africa is not
literally sleeping but WE are sleeping.......WE are lapsing.....
WE are adamant of our fellow brother......
WE are careless of our values.....
WE are selfish with our comfort....
and even selfcentered on this TRUTH.....
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Ogunro Temitope
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 6, 2006 - 10:24 AM
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How do we wake up from our nonchalant attitiude towards our own developments.
I have these few points:
1) Lets all start to see our own development in our hands not necessarily in others.
2) Let start building ourselves even from the smallest ledge. (eg like what we are doing here in TIG)
3) Let all start sharing whatever we have (knowledge, education, ideas etc)
4) Lets start believing in ourselves (We can do it)
5) Finally, lets stop jumping the race, believing that the journey didn't start in a day.
On another point, my call here goes to all Africans in the diaspora, pls lets us always think of our homeland in whatever the situation may be...our home will always be our home. There are so many of us whose children don't even know where they came from. Lets believe that our folks at home are looking up to us.
Thanks.
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 10, 2006 - 02:34 PM
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We tend to say much, but do little, things will not change until we act!
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
December 21, 2006 - 05:42 AM
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There comes a time in life when it is possible to realize that, if one stands still, you may remain at such a point forever. If you realize that life quickly can pass by, then every minute counts! The intensity of purpose can increase with growing awareness of obstacles encountered!
Africa is of age, and cant go back to what she used to be before, Let us make a concerted effort with definate purpose, to move africa in the right direction there by fortifying her enough to stand the test of time.
Lets act!
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
January 5, 2007 - 04:13 PM
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Adhiambo, this is a great discussion. It's good to see that it's still going strong a couple of months after you first posted it. I like what everyone has to say. I also have something to add.
I think it's very important to acknowledge that we belong to numerous countries, regions and ethnic groups. Most of us experience Africa as residents of a specific town or village. Few of us have had the opportunity to travel extensively across Africa and to live for long periods of time in African communities other than those in which we were born. In addition, many Africans (and let's be honest here) have a hard time dealing with ethnic diversity in their own countries. What I'm trying to say, in short, is that uplifting an entire continent is a very huge task. I think the best way to "wake Africa up" is to make a difference in our own little communities first.
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
January 6, 2007 - 06:22 AM
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Dear Adhiambo,
Vipi?
Maishsa?
Afya?
I really love you. I love your article on Africa. It's laziness of the highest order. Dependency has cripled our minds. We simply can't think. We can't analyse. We are like hyenas following lions. Lions decide what the hyenas eat. Great of you my dear. Keep up and take care.
We love to follow but we don't love to lead.
Even those who would love to lead instead love to RULE. And those who rule are selfish and damn rich. They can afford to buy anything from those who process our raw materials and sell to us the finished products at exorbitant prices.
Then the poor suffer more and the rich enjoy more.
Those positionary leaders ours don't care whatever takes place. They have 'NOTHING' to do to change the technology and industrialise their economies, which would reduce economic and technological dependency
Cheers.
Saidi (Uganda)
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
March 4, 2007 - 04:30 PM
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Nice thread.
Iti s now the 21st Century and things are not the same as in the past.
The ppl and the lands of countries from the past century who developed with heavy industry are now facing serious threats of destructions from the poisins they have created.
Africa may be luckyer in the long run then those affected/infected by industrialisation if they play their cards right.
The G-8 ppls concept of advancement is to surround ourselves with useless goods and have available limitless amount of resources to consume, waste and abuse. This in turn is pushed, or seduced is a better word, upon the ppl. of developing nations.
At the beginning of this discussion the emphasis was on how the wealthy sit down their developing wealth and knowledge upon th epoor in order to extract what they could for profit. The same things happen in developed countries. The larger part of the profits from Nickel (Sudbury) Potash (Manitoba), Lumber (New Brunswick, Ontario and B.C.), grain from the prairies and the list goes on, goes to the ppl. in the high towers in our downtown cities.
The milionaires and billionaires are the ones that do created work managing other ppls. or countries resources.
If Africa wants to go industrialized, i say shame on them, it is not the route to go.
What has or should be done is to cut off all natural resource supplies to all outside countries and concentrate on educating the masses with greater Greener truths and develop better methods of living.
We here have to change because the planet can no longer support what we are doing. Of course those in power do not see things the same way as those who understand and at times cry for Gaia and her splendid disapearing children.
Time to find, raise, and promote real leaders.
Gerald Derome
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
March 29, 2007 - 10:10 AM
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monica19888 wrote:
ma sista .........i feel u dere is so much more people can do but the problem with africans is that we are more that greedy and highly jealous...........we need to love one another first. thats when all this corruption in governments and all will stop. when the leaders start considering and lovin those that they are leading. the problem with africa is CORRUPTION. the west do influence highly but if we really wanted to make a stand we would have. look at zimbwabwe where people dont even get a decent meal due to mugabe's stupidity. by chasing the british farmers zim has lost so much all this due to what??? ILLITURACY is a DISEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear, you are mistaken! Whomever say that Mugabe is STUPID didn't think deeply on what's going on in Zimbabwe.
Furthermore there's no gov't that is 100% not corrupt. The problem with Africa is: AFRICANS DO NOT KNOW WHO ARE THEY! Time will come when you will understand my statement!
I love Africa I admit (despite the problems facing us)!
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
April 21, 2007 - 09:13 PM
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Adhiambo, Its a little late that I am posting this reply on Africa Wake up!!! but I totally agree with your views.
We are rich in resources and even if we do not have the most desired resources-Oil and all that goes with crude, we do have quite a lot of resources not forgetting the undying human resources available in Africa! If we appreciated our young people and the little ideas they have to offer our communities, maybe we would do alot better than we are doing currently.
And this goes to all our governments, signing of agreements without thinking ahead is killing the Spirit of our African Future! So what must we do? Educate ourselves Adhiambo, education is the key to many doors.....We must Educate without end, in all ways, all shapes and forms. Knowledge is the best resource.
I would ask our Leaders to give the young people their ears and listen to the ideas. This would make a difference in a few things.
Rise and shine Africa!!
Wanja Munaita
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
April 23, 2007 - 08:12 AM
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hi Munaita..it's never too late. true we must get education, but the quality of that education matters. recently I found outsomething that really angered me...There is a lady, I'm not sure from which country exactly but a european one, who decided to patent the Kiyodo ( a traditional basket used by the Kikuyu tribe) What I do not understand is how she even succeeded...this is part of a community's culture, how do you claim ownership to that? the sad thing about it is memebers of that community will not get any benefits...same thing with the kikoy...As Africans we need to make sure that this is avoided, if anyone should benefit from our culture and resources, it should be us. Or leaders should try and formulate policies and laws that govern economic ventures that directly affect us. I also agree that the leaders should listen the youth because we have alot to offer,but we should also make them listen. and as someone mentioned earlier,we should unite and rid ourselves of the control of international relations...but to do this, we must first put our houses in order, stop the bad politics, work towards development and change.
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
April 23, 2007 - 05:07 PM
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Adhiambo wrote:
hi Munaita..it's never too late. true we must get education, but the quality of that education matters. recently I found outsomething that really angered me...There is a lady, I'm not sure from which country exactly but a european one, who decided to patent the Kiyodo ( a traditional basket used by the Kikuyu tribe) What I do not understand is how she even succeeded...this is part of a community's culture, how do you claim ownership to that? the sad thing about it is memebers of that community will not get any benefits...same thing with the kikoy...As Africans we need to make sure that this is avoided, if anyone should benefit from our culture and resources, it should be us. Or leaders should try and formulate policies and laws that govern economic ventures that directly affect us. I also agree that the leaders should listen the youth because we have alot to offer,but we should also make them listen. and as someone mentioned earlier,we should unite and rid ourselves of the control of international relations...but to do this, we must first put our houses in order, stop the bad politics, work towards development and change.
I could not agree less with what you have said.
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
April 24, 2007 - 03:01 AM
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Adhiambo & Erioch,
Put our houses in Order is top priority and certainly needing alot more emphasis!
What I think is that if current governments do not give the youth a chance to rights such as freedom of speech among others, then it will be taking alot longer than we even hope to put these houses in Order.
Its like a circle where one thing totally depends on another. We have corrupt leaders lets just agree, and they have literally refused to give up power to any young and fresh blood who might have no idea what is going on, which may be a terrible thing, but who knows? Change is always good and always comes with pros and cons.
So we have leaders who have been in parliament since we were babies, some not even born, and they have accumulated a wealth of corrupt ways in all areas. How can we even think we are anywhere near cleaning and putting our houses in order?
Fresh blood would mean, trying absolutely new measures for various challenges already facing Africa, which in turn may turn out to be good or even bad. But at least something not related to the offshore accounts that have been being stashed overseas for years now.
That way, the deepest darkest corruption would be uncovered!
Have a fabulous day!
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Re: Africa, wake up!!! [development and economics]
April 26, 2007 - 06:58 AM
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Yes actions speak louder than words....it's in times like this that you realise that...that is true!
Please everyone take a chance to think about this........the main reason why africa is not developing is because of SELFISHNESS! I have said this before and i'll say it again. Majority of africans are naturally selfish......they only care about thier success and that of those close to them.....so the poorer get poorer and the rich get richer!
What can government do? Well they can start by involving the youth first of all:
"Young people should be at the forefront of global change and innovation. Empowered, they can be key agents for development and peace. If, however, they are left on society's margins, all of us will be impoverished. Let us ensure that all young people have every opportunity to participate fully in the lives of their societies."
-- Kofi Annan
Clearly governments aren't doing enough in trying to involve the youth...and without the educating the future leaders of tomorrow as a continent we have nothing but a full house of incopetence and GREED!
I mean look at Zambia!....it supplies majoirty of the water in southern africa and instead of captalising on that and other resources (e.g the oil discovered!) to become one the fatest developing countries in africa....they choose to let foreigners (e.g chinees investors) do their work, just thinking about this is absolutely heart-rending!
I would like to believe that majoirty of African countries are christian: which is shockingly a big problem and to a certain extent misunderstanding of some theories a hindrance to development! DO NOT say......GOD chooses the leaders for goodness sake.......or leaders chosen by God. Tell me something was Mugabe ever on the list of potential candidates in his book....NO.....i dont think so! God helps those who help themselves so when choosing your leaders......vote WISELY and no that you vote vounts to a bigger magine than the term suggests!
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