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US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 12:43 AM
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U.S. threatened to bomb Pakistan after 9/11: Musharraf
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/09/21/musharraf_us_threatened_to_bomb_pakistan_after_911/
By Gertrude Chavez-Dreyfuss | September 21, 2006
NEW YORK (Reuters) - President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said that after the September 11 attacks the United States threatened to bomb his country if it did not cooperate with America's campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Musharraf, in an interview with CBS news magazine show "60 Minutes" that will air on Sunday, said the threat came from Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and was given to Musharraf's intelligence director.
"The intelligence director told me that (Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age,"' Musharraf said. "I think it was a very rude remark."
Here is another bombshell again. If the statement--"Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age"--was indeed uttered, it wasn't just a rude remark. It was a NAZI-style remark.
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 03:26 AM
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Al-Qaeda and Taiban -arent these two supported by Pakistan.Balouchistan -isnt it being denied basic human rights and plundered by Pakistan under General Musharraf.Pakistan occupied Kashmir- example of forcible occupation and forcing its residenst to accept a government that itself is a sham on democracy.President Musharff was recently counted among ten dictators ,giving comapny to Nazi Hilter.
The general is not ready to shed uniform , not ready to repeal law that violate dingnity of woman including supporting rape, not reday to stop terror camps.General is not even ready to accept existence of Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistn when ISI guards dawood and fund his activities.If this is not enough ,recently it was found ,after coup in Thailand, that muslim insurgenst in Thailand have support basein Multan-Pakistan. great isn't-abetting terrorism ,claiming innocent lives .
What are the options left then?
Hiltler was also given an answer.But General will coperate only after a threat,when cooperation should ahve been extended due to common sense.Who is acting like Hitler NOW??????
What was Kargil War-Pakistan retreated only when Indian army pushed it back.Imagine had India watched it patiently.Then it would have been appeasing a hilter like depost.
What about Daniel Pearl?
Pl check---http://www.dictatorofthemonth.com/Musharraf/Sep2005MusharrafEN.htm
http://membres.lycos.fr/tthreat/article1.htmhttp://newsblaze.com/story/20060919184425east.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Stories.html
http://www.pakistan-facts.com/index.php?topic=pakistan-terrorism
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 05:48 AM
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Hello Vas21,
Al-Qaeda and Taiban -arent these two supported by Pakistan.Balouchistan -isnt it being denied basic human rights and plundered by Pakistan under General Musharraf.
These groups have been actualy initially backed by the United States itself. The CIA supported predecessors of these groups through Pakistan.
Pakistan occupied Kashmir- example of forcible occupation and forcing its residenst to accept a government that itself is a sham on democracy.
Please, broaden your reading literature. You are entirely one-sided and your claim is based on entirely one-sided information.
President Musharff was recently counted among ten dictators ,giving comapny to Nazi Hilter.
The general is not ready to shed uniform , not ready to repeal law that violate dingnity of woman including supporting rape, not reday to stop terror camps.General is not even ready to accept existence of Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistn when ISI guards dawood and fund his activities.If this is not enough ,recently it was found ,after coup in Thailand, that muslim insurgenst in Thailand have support basein Multan-Pakistan. great isn't-abetting terrorism ,claiming innocent lives .
Well, bringing Pakistan back into the Stone Age (note: I am quoting Richard Armitage), will solve all the problems, right?
What are the options left then?
Excuse me, is threatening to bring the country back into the Stone Age is the only option left? Are you suggesting that the US threatened Pakistan beacuse of the dictatorial nature of Musharraf? Do you know that the US tolerated, backed, supported dictators worse than Musharraf?
Ok, so the US has threatened (used the only option left, according to your logic). Has the human rights in Pakistan improved a slight bit thanks to that threat?
Hiltler was also given an answer.But General will coperate only after a threat,when cooperation should ahve been extended due to common sense.Who is acting like Hitler NOW??????
With all his appalling human rights records, you can't compare Musharraf to Hitler. Hitler was far worse than that.
I am not suggesting that Armitage is a Hitler. But his way of threatening was simiilar to Nazi tactics.
Well, this whole issue about threatening Pakistan is interesting. I mean, that is the way US gets contries to join the "Coalition of the WILLING," right?
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 07:29 AM
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Wont it be better if pakistan reverts back to democarcy,spends US aid on industry and reforms instead of plunging all that in terror mechanism.Gemany and Japan after second world war developed their economies and are major trade centres.Isnt their a lesson to be learnt?
Pak occupied Kashmir suffered a earthquake and suddenly women tarfficking from that area increased.Even a year after the quake UN is requesting for more money for relief.(see the related link).
Why doesnt pakistan now stops the support to terror networks? what purpose does it sreve to attack Indian parliament,Mumbai bomb blasts or blasts on Diwali.India after 9/11 quickly ofered support in combat terrorism on its own .Alas others were forced to do so. today they they shed tears and feel victimised.
Whta was Dr.A.Q.Khan doing,when he was black marketing nuclear technology.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/09/21/un_says_more_cash_needed_for_pakistan_quake_http://www.saag.org/papers6/paper554.htmlrelief/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0702/p01s02-wosc.html
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/22inter.htm
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/dec/08raman.htm?zcc=rl
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 08:26 AM
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Vas 21,
with all my respect, but this discussion is concerned about the methods by which the US conducts its diplomacy overseas.
Kashmir can be discussed in another thread, in order to be on-topic.
Thanks.
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 22, 2006 - 10:23 AM
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vas21 wrote:
Wont it be better if pakistan reverts back to democarcy,spends US aid on industry and reforms instead of plunging all that in terror mechanism.Gemany and Japan after second world war developed their economies and are major trade centres.Isnt their a lesson to be learnt?
Pak occupied Kashmir suffered a earthquake and suddenly women tarfficking from that area increased.Even a year after the quake UN is requesting for more money for relief.(see the related link).
Why doesnt pakistan now stops the support to terror networks? what purpose does it sreve to attack Indian parliament,Mumbai bomb blasts or blasts on Diwali.India after 9/11 quickly ofered support in combat terrorism on its own .Alas others were forced to do so. today they they shed tears and feel victimised.
Whta was Dr.A.Q.Khan doing,when he was black marketing nuclear technology.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/09/21/un_says_more_cash_needed_for_pakistan_quake_http://www.saag.org/papers6/paper554.htmlrelief/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0702/p01s02-wosc.html
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/22inter.htm
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/dec/08raman.htm?zcc=rl
Vas21,
All these are good questions. They need to be directed at Pakistanis. I can't answer those questions.
But the issue is not about Pakistan here. Ayman is right, we are talking about the nature of American diplomacy.
According to the official claim of the US policy-makers, those who participated in the "War on Terror" constitute the "Coalition of the WILLING."
Don't you see anything ironic or hypocritical here? Well, it is more than just a hypocrisy. It is a kind of belligerence that needs to be entirely comdemned--by Americans themselves, first of all.
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 23, 2006 - 10:49 AM
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Somehow, what i feel is, US created all these terrorist monsters themselves and now that they have turned on them they are fighting their war against terror. US policies are all naturally PRO-US. They dont seem to care about the long term effect of their actions on a golbal level or anything. Like for example US created taleiban to fight the soviet forces (i.e. for their own personal motives) When the entire plot turned against them, they attacked Afghanistan. Then donno exactly why, but they had to attack Iraq. May be for free oil (dont think they did it to FREE the country from Saddams dictatorship. If their policies were so much in place, they would not have Pakistan as an ally). Anyways, US cant do without Pakistan and neither can Pakistan do anything without US. US needs Pakistan so that, 1stly they can boast of having a muslim country as an ally, so avoiding being called an anti-muslim crusader force. 2ndly it is easier for Pakistani forces to convince the people of Afghanistan since they are of the same religion. Also, in case of a war, let a few Pakistani soldiers die. Why get American soldiers killed.
Also Pakistan needs American support. General Musharraf knows that if America decides he can be thrown out of power the very next minute. On the other hand, if he supports America, America will support him giving him not only international recognition, but - in short - invincibility. Also, US aid is THE major source of income for Pakistani Govt. (Dont mind, but they hardly do anything productive. Otherwise they would be considered a challange to growing eastern economies like India and China.)
In short this alliance is more circumstantial than ideological. So... when they wont need each other, it will automatically fall apart. In fact, they are ideologically so different, that they will be enemies. So... a US invasion of Pakistan doesnt seem impossible.
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Re: US "Threatened to Bomb Pakistan"
September 23, 2006 - 01:40 PM
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vivek_lahoti wrote:
. 2ndly it is easier for Pakistani forces to convince the people of Afghanistan since they are of the same religion.
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Thats definitely not the case !!!!!!
Afghans are totally against Pakistan. From the moment peshawar went to Pakistan, Afghans have been carrying hatred against Pakistan.
I was a member of the SAARCYouth convention and we had a tough time keeping our Afghan and Pakistani friends away from a serious confrontation !!! some of them couldnt stand each other !!!!
afghans also blame Pakistan for aiding Taliban and giving then refuge so that afghanistan is always in turmoil and they also accuse Pakistan for using the people of Peshawar for the terrorist activities in Kashmir ...( And I think they are right in their claims as majority of the Mujahideens are from Peshwar)
I dont support the US govt's tactics ....they do have a serious attitude problem !!! 
But much as i respect my Pakistani friends, their govt has stabbed us in the back so many times with their support for terrorist activities that I do feel they need to be checked !
Although i dont think US had really any plans to attack Pakistan ...
Even if they had , I am sure even Indians wouldnt have allowed that ...we would have supported Pakistan against US.
we wouldnt want any harm to come to the innocent people there ...
This post was edited on: 2006-09-23 at 01:43 PM by: anuriandima84
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