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Thabiso Ephraim Teffo
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Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
September 21, 2006 - 06:27 AM
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There is a fundamental question that we need to ask ourselves is , are our countries in the African Continent going to achiev the MDG goals , in 2015 , in honest point of reflection i think otherwise.as long as Sudan children are still expriencing War , Ethiopians are still expriencing lot of death because of health related issues ,then i do not think so , we need to speak a lot about African Coutries , vs the west making them their dumping site , abusing their own natural resources
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 5, 2006 - 08:44 AM
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thabiso wrote:
There is a fundamental question that we need to ask ourselves is , are our countries in the African Continent going to achiev the MDG goals , in 2015 , in honest point of reflection i think otherwise.as long as Sudan children are still expriencing War , Ethiopians are still expriencing lot of death because of health related issues ,then i do not think so , we need to speak a lot about African Coutries , vs the west making them their dumping site , abusing their own natural resources
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i relly agree with you on this issue.but one thing we need to think of is that if we really develop a positive attitude towards the realisation of the MDG then , we can help achieve something evern if not all the goals.even in my country, one of my ministers saying that dthe country can never meet the development goals which to me i think was inappropriate for someone of such calibre to come out to the public and talk about the fact that we can meet those golals.
Thats why i am always talking about the fact we really need to chang our attitude to the realiisation of the set goals .
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 5, 2006 - 03:48 PM
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I think is a big question too.
i will say that since we have it as our targets and we use them in many policies,we will definately make some strides. Our targets may be high but we will cover so ground
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 11, 2006 - 04:43 AM
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I just finished conducting a training for some guys in my country on the MDG's and it is amazing the number of people that are ignorant on what the MDG's are about and these are educated people. But it only made me aware of what a daunting task we have ahead. We might not be able to achieve the goals in 2015 but if we are all headed in the same direction then we will get there someday. 
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 11, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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Yes and with God all things are possible. My great concern is there is to much inprovement talking and saying on the particular issue both from Westerns and Africans but no much implimentations carried compare with the time shedule. I would say that we need to speak out on this and whatever has to be done must be done faster to meet up with M.D.G Goals . Rome was not built in a day as saying said, but nothhing mortivates better than one
seeing achivements.
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 12, 2006 - 05:09 AM
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A good topic!
Thanks guys! It is good to have hope, and it is better to work towards that hope. But when working towards realising that hope is hampered, even holding to that hope becomes a problem. Achieving the MDGs for Africa, like any other continent, was or is possible; but is like a hope not being worked towards. I agree with my brothers from Nigeria; how do we achieve them when 80% of our population don't even know about them? To equal our colleagues in the West, which is possible, Africa needed to work double; but now, our efforts don't go any far beyond the breath of mentioning MDGs. No commitment, no seriousness, no willingness; to be honest, we've given up before the battle and seems to be gradually leaving it all to the West. I don't see any African nation serious at this. Our policies seem not to change; what we are good at is how a particular group of guys can continue mis-ruling. We don't have governments, we have rulers whose sole purpose and intent is to continue ruling and being seen to rule. My way forward, get to the way of my Nigerian colleague; let's teach each other at the grass-root levels, youth group levels and any other levels about all these.As things stand, come 2015 another Darfur, another DRC, Somalia, could be worse!
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 12, 2006 - 12:05 PM
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to achieve the MDG's in Africa, i feel there is need to encourage individuals, organisations and corporate bodies to participate in the actualisation of this global committment- through a massive campaign.
However, it may be hard to believe that an average African is does not know what the MDG's are all about- can you imagine that?
To sincerely achieve these goals, more campaign to should be launch and this is a responsibility of us who know what the MDG's are.
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 13, 2006 - 01:53 AM
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Thanks bro, though your name sounds like a Mathematical formular, i agree to all you say. Besides, i think the moment we in the Devloping World realize the importance of not relying on our governments on all accounts; we shall make a big stride. What we need to realize is that i and you can do marvellous job and be of immense help to our societies more than the governments. This approach, put to MDGs, would make the 2015 target more realistic. But the reality is that most Developing countries' citizens will start understanding what MDGs and their targets are all about may be around 2010-2014 when it will be too late! Brothers lets form Youth Groups discuss! discuss! discuss and discuss! all about poverty, global warming, HIV/AIDS and all other MDG Goals; and find proper interventions or even ways of pressurizing our governments and keeping that constant check! Let's not be like those in governments, let's struggle for our posterity; let's make an impact during our life-time: I have my forum where i invite colleagues for discussions, and at this rate, watch this space. I invite you all to Nairobi for our next forum, 15th November.
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 16, 2006 - 04:07 AM
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Hello guys, I agree with all your views but the people need to know about the MDG's. The various governments do know about this programme and am sorry to say some of them are using this funds as a means to get rich. In my country for instance there is an MDG budget in almost all ministries but you would be surprised at the number of people in those place that have no idea what the MDG's are about on the same note there are a number of policies, organisations the government has set up to achieve the MDG's but people do not know about it and thus cannot tap into it and ensure that the polies are not just theoretical but also practical.
Awareness campaigns for people at the grassroot level is definitely the way to go, for we cannot make the country accountable on our own.
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October 16, 2006 - 06:06 AM
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Yea Osi..............( longest name in TIG) Am glad in Nigeria there is even a budget and Ministerial Allocations for MDGs. And what would then make realizing the targets difficult? You guys get the masses behind the MDG policies, form Community Based MDG Work-Groups; list viable activities and press the relevant government departments for financing. Actually, it is not that the governments have no recourse to taking MDG Activities seriously, but they'd rather shelve it aside if not agressively implored upon. For this case, this is where you and like-minded colleagues come-in. Take it on buddy and don't forget our new resolution of making the masses aware of the MDGs. Thanks because am on my way to finding whether my government has anything closer to the Nigerian situation. Good day!
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October 18, 2006 - 11:46 AM
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There are five keys messages recomendation for capacity development in africa 1capacity is the missing link in africa s achivement of the mdgs. 2 capacity development aims at an effective state and an engage society. 3 africans must take the lead in capacity development and aid management . 4 external partners must engage existing capacity in all african countries. 5. archiving capacity out comes requires independent monitoring.
Capacity coprisies the skills,incentive resources organisational systems and structures as well as the broader enabling enviroment that allow individuals and organisations to plan,implement,and monitor there development capacity is the best develop and use most effectivly and tangibly in pursuit of specific objective such as deliveiring services to the poor,improving investment climate for private farms and entrepreneurs,empowering local cumminuties to take part in public decision_making and resociring conflict and promoting peace and security the early 1990's-in short,with economic policy and good governance building blocks moving into place to create opportunities,together with the avability of external financing,capacity remain the must binding constraint metting the stipulated mdg target in africa.
Like for example if you read the report that prime minister luisa diago presented at the confrence"capacity matters,"oprational emplications",washington dc, june 8 2005 you will know the goverment have a lut to do to meet the mdgs goals like for example she said our instruction are naw able to make policies,create programmes and contra projects,they are aso handling gende rissues at all levels,this are the major improvement that strengthen institutational capacity,the third messure of success is the growth of the private sector.
With a total invetment both internal and foreign of us$7billio9n since 1997only three countries in africa have a such level of investment sudan where there is diamonds and oil,angola where there is diamonds and mozambique where there is neither oil nor diamonds.she endup saying i am convince that if a goverment have been democratically elected by the will of the people it is implicit that its role is to do the people work and fullfill the mandate for a better future.and the better future i8s archive mainaly through capacity development.s
Let dont forget in 2000 at the millinuim summit all developing countries agreed to meet the goals in ten years and naw it 4 years left
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 19, 2006 - 05:25 AM
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I might be a bit idealistic but are african politicians our only and main problem.
Afrcian politicians are not the major problem, the people are, ignorance is.
I see a lot of problems that are not politically based.
People have gotten used to pointing fingers and fail to see where they contribute to the problem.
Do not get me wrong, african politicians contribute immensly to the problems africa is facing, but they are not the ones.
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October 19, 2006 - 05:49 AM
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Hi Umaru
True, some will others, (infact most )won't, and indeed we should work hard. What amazes is why we cannot even start the hard work now. Why you talk so beautifully here but change drastically when i elect you, or you elect yourself to the government. These are our dilemma. Like i say, let's make the difference; think big, be positive and selfless such that when we take into politics and government, things change for the better. Have a nice day guys!
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 19, 2006 - 10:52 AM
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Although i'm an outsider chiming in on this i felt the urge to do so.
To borrow from a quote,"Whether you believe you can achieve a thing or not, you are right."
i don't mean to oversimplify the issues being faced but attitude and commitment are the foundation of ANY SUCCESS.
i am personally committed to doing my part to apply what i have to offer to ensuring that the goals ARE achieved and NOTHING will deter that. The power is not in the hands of politicians unless it is conceded and handed over.
i tend to think there is a way for everyone to work together and technology has made that possible regardless of our location.
There's an important thread here that i think warrents some attention in light of this discussion .
What lessons can be learned from efforts that have and are WORKING?
How can we overcome differences and prejudices to work together to do the work that must be done?
Personally, i feel this starts with dialogues...including the uncomfortable ones needed to tackle the toughest issues.
Only the best,
Yvette
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Re: Are African Countries going to Achieve the M.D.G Goals
October 19, 2006 - 01:11 PM
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Hi omondipop.
You are quite write,one thing i have to say here we gat a lut of work to do cuase our politicians are not fit to be our leaders,look i cant belive when i heard at BBC africa that all this leaders meat and decide to accept the ivorian president to roll for a year again,tell me did they wont peace there they just wont to detorarte that country to ground level to them to begin again african leaders cannot even handle there own problem.
All i pray for is the lord to help us with good leaders that can make us archive a better development.
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