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Benni Chapman
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is education tight or boring
February 28, 2003 - 06:16 AM
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Hi there Im new here its nice to be here. I have read many articles and seen many ideas, this site is quite tight and neat. I like it.
You have an opinion on school system? poor countries complain about the lack of resources and overcrowding. Rich countries complain about lack of innovations and uncooperative kids. Soem kids in poor countries leave school early becase they work to fend for their families and so they abandon their eductaion and become "premature adults". and some kids in rich countries think education is boring and so they end up teaming up with the "wrong people" they give in to peer pressure and stuff and they end up doing drugs, teen pregnancy and stuff and some of them end up in jail.
In the quest for global village should education be "gloabalised"? Is it tight to hav a universal school sytem for example children in America and Asia learn the same things? How can we help other young people stay away from drugs and sex until maybe 18 years or 21 or matured enough? Can we make school education less boring and more tight?
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Global village only with Global education
February 28, 2003 - 08:24 AM
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This is of a kind, intelligent question.But talking from the depth I dont go for the Global education.Defenitely students from America ,Asia ,Africa should have the knowledge in things commonly.But in all ways they cant.Bcoz culture is different and also the development issues there.I think IT enabled education will be far more effective in this case, called a variety of Global Education.For that I can say all the Universities has to be organised and networked for knowledge sharing and management.With this the quality of education can be maintained and developed.I know this has been already implemented in various locations, but international network has to be established.Only then there is a chance of chaseing the IT pace.
Regarding the child abuse and things,if you dont misunderstand, I request you all to have a look at Indian culture.
And please dont forget that the 60% of poors in developing countries also have the thirst for education.We cant avoid them.They can be the power for tommorrows world.Uplifting them can make a difference.
Check projects at
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http://projects.takingitglobal.org/vkc
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EDUCATION IS ESSENTIALLY MENTAL DEVELOPMENT.
March 3, 2003 - 06:04 AM
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Education Comes In Shades And Colours.
I Strongly Believe That Education Is Essentially All About Mental Development, Excercising Of Our Senses, And Skills Acquisition. Take Me For Example, I Studied Industrial Chemistry Up To Masters Level At The University, But Today I Do Not Earn My Living As A Scientist, But I Earn My Daily Bread As A Researcher, Enterpreneur, And A Business Development Consultant. Thanks To The Almost Almigthy Education That Has Prepared My Mind, Senses, And Skills To Take On Almost Any Field Of Human Endeavour.
Education To Me Is Neither Tight Nor Boring, But A Form Of Working Experience. Schooling May Be Tight And Super Boring, But Never Education.
Education Should Never Be Confused For Schooling. Schooling Is A Life Time Project For The Students Of Life, But Education Is A Life Empowering And Enriching Reality.
I Do Not Believe In Certificates, I Believe In Talents, Skills, & Results. My Talents And Skills Has Opened Strange Doors That My Certificates Cannot Stand.
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Benni Chapman
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Re: is education tight or boring
March 3, 2003 - 06:11 AM
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Global village.so should this global village be used when it suits the rich countries only?how different is culture.from my experience there is no homogenious or ethnocentric country i mean a country that has the same culture. I mean like USA &belgium dont have the same culture but they have the same education for all ..i mean i think so.In my country there was separate development education system and it had very negative results.can u beleve the impact. some people who went to the so-called black universities cant be allowed in australia cuz their degrees are worthless but its not their fault they were forced to go to these schools because of skin colour.
Please tell me about the indian culture.i could imagine india just like other countries is not homogenous but maybe i was wrong.i thought there are many many many cultures in india. what is their child abuse culture anyway? is there one culture in india and no diversity?
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Ashwin Gopinath
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Indian Culture = Unity in Diversity
March 3, 2003 - 07:02 AM
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India's history goes back to 3,200 BC when Hinduism was first founded. Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism. Judaism. Zoroashtrianism, Christianity and Islam all exist within the country today. As a consequence of India's size, the history of the country has seldom been the same for two adjoining territories, and its great natural wealth has lured a succession of traders and foreign influences to it, each having left their imprint in the country, however faint or localized.
Modern India is home alike to the tribal with his anachronistic lifestyle and to the sophisticated urban jetsetter. It is a land where temple elephants exist amicably with the microchip. Its ancient monuments are the backdrop for the world's largest democracy where atomic energy is generated and industrial development has brought the country within the world's top ten nations. Today, fishermen along the country's coastline fashion simple fishing boats in a centuries old tradition while, a few miles away, motor vehicles glide off conveyor belts in state-of-the-art factories........
I know this is not the place to describe the history, but I want you all to know that we have a thousand of religions and caste, a hundreds of language spoken here and we are the largest democratic country in the world.Where in universe do you find it?Nowhere else....Unity in diversity is another name for India.
In countries where the western culture had made impact these is only a little value for humanity and relationship.They say "NO" for this comment.Ok..read on..
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1)How many teenagers enjoyed sex before 18 yrs in western civilized countries?
A)90%
How many teenagers enjoyed sex before 18 yrs in India?
A)10%
2)How many family relationship has been ended with divorce in the west or individuals who have married more than once?
A)80%
How many family relationship has been ended with divorce in India or individuals who have married more than once?
A)5%
Here is the difference and these are the fact.....if you understood this I expect your answer changing from "NO" to "YES" for the above written comment.
And you know I love the people there bcoz they are humans.
More about india on
http://www.welcometoindia.com/home.asp
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Benni Chapman
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March 3, 2003 - 08:24 AM
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Déjà vu?"Unity in diversity is another name for India" and also:"Unity in diversity is another name for South Africa". IM SERIOUS THATS OUR COAT OF ARMS. (Unity in diversity=!ke e: /xarra //ke, in the /Xam language).
Aswhin Thanks for that mouthful.Found it useful and informative. But the figures and stats youre throwing around are backed by what.What if someone in South Africa said the same things about our country and use no figures to substantiate it?what about child abuse culture?
I think Zedek is right as well,a difference in schooling and education.I see you think it matters not,tight or super boring! So "globalising" the education is a good thing? Ashwin I still cannot see why culture makes it difficult to "globalise" the education system.As a teacher maybe I wanna teach anywhere globally or as a child learn anywhere and not worry about the local methodology.All in all I agree with Zedek but I cant see no "globalisation". What are the solutions about the children doing drugs and teenpregnancy and what are the solutions about the poor children dropping out?
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Poverty is our enemy!!
March 3, 2003 - 09:07 AM
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Good Chapman, this is interesting.See culture and education have a big relationship.
Tell me, do all education tell the students the end result of drugs and teenage pregnecy.The same quotings is there in ours too.But the students you are talking are falling in the deep hole, and the one I am talking dont.I never say I am fully confident.They are some cases here also.And when I find the story behind it, it was some thing interesting. It's the society and trend that pushed them into the disaster.The term 'society' implies the condition they live and the 'trend' is the tv advertisement they are watching.No need to say that the youths often have a wandering mind.Both parrents and teachers can help them in this case.The parents and of course the teacher can be a role model upto to an age of 15.Often the countries you aretalking about, the child will leave his/her parents in his teenage by different reasons.The drawback is stated above, and th advantage is not of concern now.
Talking about the poor students,its the havoc of poverty.Povert is our primary enemy.We have to fight against it.We have the resources for being the best.So far we have lived with various approches to it.Now we have to change the attitude towards these resouces.We cut the branches of trees, but still they give shades to us.Think how?.Evil power always live with the good.But good triumphs.
Eradicating poverty is a herculian task, but atleast a chain to it can give education to poor and minimise the dropout.
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abolish private schools - PART 1
March 4, 2003 - 09:46 AM
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A long thesis, outlining why I believe education should be globalized, first step is "nationalising", not the actual dictionary meaning but my own. Get rid of private schools and parents stop SENDING kids to school as if they are parcels!
Ashwin, please substantiate your figures. In passing Swaziland has a strong respect for culture, there is a low divorce rate (I GUESS less than 20% of marriages end up in divorce/separation) and high virgin rate (I GUESS more than 70% of youths under 20 are virgins) among teenagers and that's all I can say cos there I don't have any official stats.
Ashwin, poverty is our primary concern... it becomes a vicious circle. You can't learn on an empty stomach or you need to learn to work and feed yourself or how do you feed yourself without money, go steal to get money and so on.
Chapman, please stop this confusion, "separate development" is a fancy term for apartheid. We all know the word "apartheid".
Looking at this from a different perspective. For the betterment of the world's sake I support the idea of globalized education.
First things first! Look around, look at our own TIG members and their style of writing.
Not to be ethnocentric, there is no respect for punctuation marks and spelling never mind the grammar. Most of the guys here (LOL) don't know when to use a "space" (before or after punctauting), an apostrophy, some can't differentiate between its and it's or then and than etc. You find certain members SHOUTING - normally we don't use caps however some TIG members post their threads in CAPITAL LETTERS FROM THE FIRST WORD TILL THE LAST. One other boring part is one long "paragraph-ed" article.
I can go on the whole day...
ZEDEK, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS USE UPPER CASE. PLEASE TRY USING LOWER CASE WHERE CAPITAL LETTERS ARE NOT NECESSARY. IT LOOKS LESS INTIMIDATING.
TO BE CONTINUED (Private school vs public school).
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Re: is education tight or boring
March 4, 2003 - 10:44 AM
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I can go on the whole day... CONTINUED
Since I went to a public then private school I'm probably most empowered to talk about the subject, especially nationalising education. Kids get caught up in their parents' financial well-being for good education. If all citizens are equal why differentiate on the basis of cash? Why are there private schools anyway?
Anyway, before I went to a Swaziland private school I was schooling in SA with kids from all backgrounds (colour-based). Going to a private school meant mingling with mostly rich kids doing rich things - like substance abuse as they have lotta money at their disposal. Swazi private schools are like a small Africa. In my school less than 20% of the kids were Swazi, most were South African then Zimbabweans and others. For people schooling their kids across their borders says something about inferior education back home and the lack of Swazis because of cash was louder than loud. Swazis are generally poor!
If education were globalized I think private schools should fall away, you'll agree it's creating an unnecessary classification on the basis of financial status. The peasants all over the world continue to cram in classrooms with kids exceeding 50, 60 or 70 in black South Africa alone.
Teen pregnancy: parents must stop SENDING kids to school and thinking or acting "good riddance", it's a two-way thing. Most parents are either just lazy or simply irresponsible. Sexducation is not just the teachers' job, it's parents' too! The same for drug abuse, most (rich) parents give their kids lotta money and no responsibilty and these kids end up blindedly substance-abusing. Poor kids also do drugs, maybe to make their worries subside (a vicious circle). Rich and poor must talk to their kids about the dangers of drugs.
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yes
April 13, 2003 - 10:48 AM
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yes of course its boring accept gym
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Education
March 23, 2004 - 11:37 AM
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Hey there I believe that education is the most important aspect in someone's life. I was born in mexica and studied there for one year it was dificult for my parents to provide for my sister and I because in mexico a person has to pay to attend school and my mother did not have the money. When I turned 1 years old My mother along with my sister left to the United States and when I turned 4 years old my mother sent for me. I've attended school in the United States since kindergarden and I'm proud to say that I have gotten the best education possible. What wories me the most is that where I live education is not taken seriously. What I'm saying is that a lot of kids in the United States do not apreachiate the education they are getting. In the U.S school is free and there is many ways in which to get money for a higher education but kids my age do not apreachiate it. I know that many kids in the world do not have the advantages the kids in the U.S do. I wished everyone in the world had the opportunity to attend school for free like I do in the U.S.
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I agree
April 4, 2004 - 08:12 AM
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I absolutly agree with rebbe342. It seems that even though teens in the U.S. have more oppertunities than teens in other countries, they don't seem to realize that fact. Many think that they can just live now and not worry that much about the future and that they are garunteed a happy life with no work involved.I personally have seen others my age living overseas and the fact that they have to work hard everyday managing their school, personal, and family lives all at the same time. I work hard because I know that there is a competion to be successful in life worldwide. Some of my American friends at my school wonder why I work hard, but I think it's because they haven't been xposed to the worlds hardships.
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Re: is education tight or boring
May 6, 2004 - 03:37 AM
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You know what, everyone has an opinion of their own,you can't blame them for nothing. But I think education is kind of mediocre because sometimes it is fun to learn something & you feel like education is really boring.
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Re: is education tight or boring
May 6, 2004 - 04:57 AM
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1)How many teenagers enjoyed sex before 18 yrs in western civilized countries?
A)90%
How many teenagers enjoyed sex before 18 yrs in India?
A)10%
2)How many family relationship has been ended with divorce in the west or individuals who have married more than once?
A)80%
How many family relationship has been ended with divorce in India or individuals who have married more than once?
A)5%
i'm glad i live in canada!!! mmmm sex and non-monogamy.
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I agree
May 6, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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I think people should take the oppertunities they have here in Canada, and in the US. Here people complain about too much homework, and not enoough time for their social lives, but education will help you in the future persue your goals. I say take what we have and put it to good use.
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