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[Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 14, 2006 - 05:33 PM
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Although I am not sheie , but every day I hear this man I trust him as a man never lie, have ethicks even in war
I can not believe he is terrorist
he defend for all christian and muslims
all his enemies said that they believe him and he never said lies
what the war has done is making unity between muslims, unity between all people of lebanon, unity between arab, unity between all people who feel injustice in the world
peace for all who love peace in the world
more killing for lebanon kids
(1 votes for 7.69%)
enhance peace on kids bodies
(0 votes for 0%)
make more hate
(2 votes for 15.38%)
make new middle east
(3 votes for 23.08%)
nothing except killing and destroy
(2 votes for 15.38%)
more people trust Nasrallah
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 15, 2006 - 07:17 AM
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I am not a Shia as well. But this man is surely a man of ethics and principles...and most importantly he stands firmly for what he says I am pretty sure now that the mossad will attempt to assassinate him as they did with other leaders.They don't want to see charismatic and influencial leaders around them.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 15, 2006 - 09:08 AM
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GREAT TOPIC...thank you alot for it.
Anyway Nasrallah is one of the greatest muslims in our time(inspite if he was a sheia or sunnah).
Now i think some people may see this topic in a strange way since some people see him as a terrorist and i feel really bad for those people for they have been tricked by the media where now any muslim with a beared and who's defending himself against powerful countries is a TERRORIST!
Nasrallah IS NOT Osama Bin Laden OR Mosaab Al Zarqawi OR Sadam Hussain...and that i think is something the west needs to understand.
Nasrallah DIDNT lie in this war or any other war....he is a man of his word.
He is a man of honour and justice and one of the few leaders that will never stop defending for the right of the palestinians.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 15, 2006 - 12:46 PM
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It is truly sad that men like this are who you admire - and not men of scientists or writers - or anyone who contributes anything useful to the world.
As for being honest - no more so than any other politician - he tries to manipulate public perception so he spins things - Hezbullah staged alot of events for the media.
CNN showed them doing this blatantly.
the most striking falsehood was how Nasrallah was lying about the number of fighters he lost - according to him Hezbullah only lost like 40 fighters - that is just nonsense.
"They don't want to see charismatic and influencial leaders around them"
I don't think it is the 'Charisma'
they object to - I think it is the missils filled with ball bearings that were routinely fired at the civilian population centers.
but your right - Nasrallah will spend the rest of his short life looking over his shoulder.
"they have been tricked by the media where now any muslim with a beared and who's defending himself against powerful countries is a TERRORIST!"
The media is not tricking us into anything.
Nasrallah STARTED this war - he attacked Israelis on Isreali soil.
He is not DEFENDING himself if he is the first to attack.
He started this conflict with an OFFENSIVE action (kidnapping 2 soldiers and killing 8 more) - therefor his actions in the conflict are not a matter of defense.
for that matter you say he is defending Lebanon - but the Lebanese were much safer BEFORE he started this war then they are now.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 15, 2006 - 12:55 PM
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"i think is something the west needs to understand."
hmm not a terrorist - ok lets ignore this current conflict for a moment and look back a little in history...
"July 19, 1982: The president of the American University in Beirut, Davis S. Dodge, is kidnapped. Hezbollah is believed to be behind this and most of the other 30 Westerners kidnapped over the next ten years.
April 18, 1983: Hezbollah attacks the U.S. embassy in Beirut with a car bomb, killing 63 people, 17 of whom were American citizens.
Oct. 23, 1983: The group attacks U.S. Marine barracks with a truck bomb, killing 241 American military personnel stationed in Beirut as part of a peace-keeping force. A separate attack against the French military compound in Beirut kills 58.
April 12, 1984: Hezbollah attacks a restaurant near the U.S. Air Force Base in Torrejon, Spain. The bombing kills eighteen U.S. servicemen and injures 83 people."
hmmm - ok aside from the Kidnappings they are targeting mostly the military lets see if this continues or if the move over to civilians -
"Dec. 4, 1984: Hezbollah terrorists hijack a Kuwait Airlines plane. Four passengers are murdered, including two Americans. "
"June 14, 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA flight 847. The hijackers severely beat Passenger Robert Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver, before killing him and dumping his body onto the tarmac at the Beirut airport. Other passengers are held as hostages before being released on June 30."
- now rightteacher you wonder why Westerners see Nasrallah as a terrorist - perhaps you can explain how this does not fit the description of terrorism -
"July 18, 1994: Hezbollah bombs the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires–again with Iranian help–killing 86 and injuring over 200."
That is in Argentina - what in the world does that have to do with "defending Lebanon"???
I think the West understands Nasrallah perfectly well
- he is a terrorist
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 16, 2006 - 08:15 AM
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It is funny to accuse Nasrallah of being a "terrorist" while ignoring all the massacres before the world's eyes in Qana and Marwaheen where children were murdered in cold blood.
Nasrallah did not start this war. The Israelis planned for it way before any attempt by Hizballah to capture any soldiers as a way to punish Lebanon and the resistance in particular for the humilating defeat the Israelis suffered in 2000. And even if we assume he hypothetically started it, there is no justification whatsover for the Israeli destruction of Lebanese infrastructure of this extremely large scale that targeted even the north where there is no presence for Hizballah's fighters, and for the indiscriminate bombardment that killed over 1000 innocent Lebanese civillians.
The zionists could have attempted to kidnap some Hizballah's officials as a reaction to what Hizballah did. But tthe harsh reality that many pro-zionists won't admit is that this war was planned before by the generals of Tel Aviv.
In short:
The generals of "Israel" don't need any excuse of any kind to start a war.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 16, 2006 - 03:00 PM
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There really is not any question that Nasrallah started it - as for plans
EVERY military draws up plans about how to deal with their adversaries if it becomes necisary.
If this started and Israel did NOT already have plans - THAT would be more unlikely.
unprofessional really.
You don't think that Iran has plans as to what it would do if the US attacked it??
you don't think Hezbullah had plans of its own if a showdown with Israel came?
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 17, 2006 - 06:03 AM
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"As refugees flood back to their war-ravaged villages, Hizbullah has flung itself to the front of the burgeoning reconstruction effort in southern Lebanon, funded with a deluge of petro-dollars from neighbouring Iran.
"We want to bring south Lebanon back to life and rebuild it better than it was before the war," said Nabil Kaouk, Hizbullah's top official in southern Lebanon, standing before the group's flattened headquarters building in Tyre.
In nearby villages, his supporters were already hard at work. Hizbullah activists in T-shirts and green caps cleared rubble-strewn roads and piles of rotting refuse, and ferried the dead and wounded through the scrub-covered hills in shiny modern ambulances.
But the most extravagant element of Hizbullah's plan is to provide a year's rent and a set of new furniture for every family whose house has been destroyed. The promise was made by Hizbullah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, within hours of Monday's ceasefire.
The housing scheme will benefit 15,000 families, Mr Nasrallah said, and will cost up to $150m, according to one estimate. Funding will come from oil-rich Iran, which until now has mostly supplied Hizbullah with thousands of missiles used against Israel.
Yesterday in Beirut, hundreds of refugees shuffled through a registration centre where officials noted their losses and made promises of help. The cash will be spent in towns such as Bint Jbail, near the southern border, where entire neighbourhoods have been razed.
"There is no central government presence here. Hizbullah is doing everything," said local official Hamed Harab, standing outside the bomb-pocked town hospital.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1851746,00.html
Nasrallah is on his way to rebuild South Lebanon, whether alone or with Lebanese governement remains to be seen...
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 19, 2006 - 09:03 AM
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Do you think terrorist
never lie
want to rebuild the country for all not only mouslim sheie but all muslims and christians , even without governmental help
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 19, 2006 - 01:09 PM
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mnopq wrote:
"As refugees flood back to their war-ravaged villages, Hizbullah has flung itself to the front of the burgeoning reconstruction effort in southern Lebanon, funded with a deluge of petro-dollars from neighbouring Iran.
"We want to bring south Lebanon back to life and rebuild it better than it was before the war," said Nabil Kaouk, Hizbullah's top official in southern Lebanon, standing before the group's flattened headquarters building in Tyre.
In nearby villages, his supporters were already hard at work. Hizbullah activists in T-shirts and green caps cleared rubble-strewn roads and piles of rotting refuse, and ferried the dead and wounded through the scrub-covered hills in shiny modern ambulances.
But the most extravagant element of Hizbullah's plan is to provide a year's rent and a set of new furniture for every family whose house has been destroyed. The promise was made by Hizbullah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, within hours of Monday's ceasefire.
The housing scheme will benefit 15,000 families, Mr Nasrallah said, and will cost up to $150m, according to one estimate. Funding will come from oil-rich Iran, which until now has mostly supplied Hizbullah with thousands of missiles used against Israel.
Yesterday in Beirut, hundreds of refugees shuffled through a registration centre where officials noted their losses and made promises of help. The cash will be spent in towns such as Bint Jbail, near the southern border, where entire neighbourhoods have been razed.
"There is no central government presence here. Hizbullah is doing everything," said local official Hamed Harab, standing outside the bomb-pocked town hospital.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1851746,00.html
Nasrallah is on his way to rebuild South Lebanon, whether alone or with Lebanese governement remains to be seen...
This confirms that Mr. Nasrallah is a man of ethics and principles. It is also worth mentioning that a considerable portion of the popoulation of South Lebanon, which is going to receive the aid from Hizballah, is Christian.
This man deserves all the respect even if we do not agree with him ideologically.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 19, 2006 - 11:48 PM
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There's no denying it, Nasrallah is probably one of the more interesting, and enigmatic figures of recent memory. So maybe, he deserves a tiny bit of respect, for that- and nothing else.
It's obvious that the only way to stop Hezbollah- The only way to do that may in fact be, to go after the leadership. The question is: how do we separate, and isolate Nasrallah? How does Lebanon untangle itself from Hezbollah- a group that has become so completely entrenched in Lebanese society?
Once we find out the answers to these questions, then maybe we'll have made some progress towards a permanent peace.
-concernedcdn
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 20, 2006 - 06:56 AM
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concernedcdn wrote:
There's no denying it, Nasrallah is probably one of the more interesting, and enigmatic figures of recent memory. So maybe, he deserves a tiny bit of respect, for that- and nothing else.
It's obvious that the only way to stop Hezbollah- The only way to do that may in fact be, to go after the leadership. The question is: how do we separate, and isolate Nasrallah? How does Lebanon untangle itself from Hezbollah- a group that has become so completely entrenched in Lebanese society?
Once we find out the answers to these questions, then maybe we'll have made some progress towards a permanent peace.
-concernedcdn
There will be no lasting peace whatsoever in the Middle East until the rights of the oppressed are fully recognized. I don't understand why so many people neglect this fact nowadays.
Nasrallah can not also be isolated simply because the people in the south are very much attached to the leadership of Hizballah. I am not sure if you know this but almost all the people who lost their homes and belongings during this war considered these losses too tiny compared to the sacrifices of the resistance which stood very bravely against the Israeli aggression - defending both Muslims and Christians alike!. I saw 10's of women and children hailing the resistenace - with big smiles on their faces - even after losing all of their belongings!. You can not beat a people like them and you can not isolate Hizballah from them.
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 22, 2006 - 01:15 PM
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"International commitments to exclude the Hezbollah militia from southern Lebanon and to disarm it already seem hollow, said the commander, who had a well-placed view of the war and its planning and has extensive experience in Lebanon.
The officer would only speak on the condition of anonymity in an interview on Friday. But, speaking one day before commandos carried out a raid that Israeli officials said was to disrupt arms shipments for Hezbollah from Syria and Iran, he was explicit that Israel would continue to seek out and block any such attempts. He also emphasized that, despite criticism from the Israeli public and even troops of the performance of the Army and government, he considered the threat and the fighting ability of Hezbollah to have been severely diminished.
Furthermore, he made it clear that Sheik Nasrallah remained a target as the leader of a group that Israel and the United States have labeled terrorist. "There's only one solution for him," he said. At another point, he said simply, "This man must die."
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/20/africa/web.0820israel.php
It seems that no matter what will happen in the future between Lebanese and Israeli governements, the tensions, arising from the fact that Nasrallah is and will remain a perpetual target for Israel and the US, will not disappear and even the UN-brokered cease-fire might not stop a new violence from eruption if Israel undertakes any raids deep inside Lebanon for killing Nasrallah..
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 23, 2006 - 03:42 PM
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does killing became the only solution for new middle east
till when?????????????????????????????
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Re: [Poll] Nasrallah , the man who never lie
August 27, 2006 - 02:50 PM
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Remember that Hezbollah is a group that has as its main goal, the destruction of a country and a people.
They want to destroy Israel - do you think that they will rest until this goal is achieved? Clearly violence is not the solution. I sincerely doubt that Nasrallah and others in Hezbollah are unintelligent, so to underestimate an Israeli military response towards the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers seems uncharacteristic.
What they've done however is played the media game very well - kidnapping Israeli soldiers, then firing rockets at Israel from civilian centers and then weeping crocodile tears when Israel hit back at the rocket launcher sites, killing families in their homes in their efforts to stop the rockets from being fired.
This does not absolve Israel of responsibility in this matter, but Nasrallah and Hezbollah knew what they were doing when they kidnapped those soldiers. I truly wonder if they think that violence is the path towards peace. What if peace were to occur and a Palestinian state proclaimed alongside Israel -would Hezbollah stop committing terrorist acts against civilians, Arab and Jew alike, in Israel? If Hezbollah could show that they were fighting for peace and not the destruction of Israel then perhaps they would be taken more seriously on the world stage, and not looked upon as extremists with whom negotiation serves no purpose. By their very extremism they are sabotaging their ability to be regarded as a serious player in the Middle East.
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