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timothy ban
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Gender is not only about women
February 20, 2003 - 02:43 AM
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I have decided to be vocal about this area, since I feel that Gender in its self has been loaded with a lot of misconception from where Im from. Most men consider gender as a feminist platform......ps Now I am not saying Feminism is wrong, but in essence there is an exclusionary tendency. Gender involves personal behaviour that affects both males and females. What I advocate for is that Gender be more incusive to men.
A scenario that could be avoided is where young people especially males are faced with more demands to perform(I am talking about, getting a good job, earning money driving nice cars.etc)More and more stress is generated and is usually brought home, the consequencies being increased domestic conflicts that finds women on the receiving end................? The question is how to nip the problem at the bud, otherwise the solutions proposed will only solve the symptoms not the problem
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Re: Gender is not only about women
February 20, 2003 - 08:35 AM
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Not to disagree or anything, but as a Zimbabwean female, I can say, we females have always been left out of everything. I am only 15, and have already had that experience so many times in my life. In theory we have legal rights, but in practice they do not exist. My point is who is the person who has been included and excluded? Men have excluded us from everything and now you want us to include you. If you want to be included then included yourself, no one is stopping you for being an advocate for women in Zimbabwe. Next time a man tries to rip of one of our ladies clothes from her body because he does not like them, then stop him from doing that, don’t stand around and watch it happen. That of course is one way of including yourself. There are many other ways of including yourself in “gender”.
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Re: Gender is not only about women
February 21, 2003 - 02:17 AM
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Its very sad that a lot of injustice against women in our society is prevelant and most of the time the blame is shifted to the victim as zimbabwe_gurl vividly put it. This is usually done in the name of "culture".....here is where the catch is. Culture is determined by who? In other words I can make a difference in my "culture" but it takes other people buying into what I do for it to become accepted as cultural, gender is sort of like that, it needs people-women and men buying into the process for it to work. like I said it involves personal opinions and sacrifices from both males and females to make it work. Some people talk of power shifts, all I am saying is that women should be supported so that there is harmony.
I hope I put myself in the clear?
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Lumumba Kgomotso Bahr G
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Re: Gender is not only about women
February 21, 2003 - 09:18 AM
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The Queen of Africa aka zimbabwe_gurl is right but so is Furusa aka afrobeing. Me Iam a Zimbabwean too but this is no Zim affair where is the other people? Injustice against women is prevalent allover, in our villages, townships, surbubs, cities and metros. In from Afghanistan, Italia, Makedohnja, Portugal, USA and Zimbabwe. In my Zimbabwean culture there is no rape and no infidelity but I see rapes and cheating everyday, don't blame culture. My culture is treating women as diamond, treating neighbours as my sis or bro etc and to respect young & old.
Afrobeing, please do not use these materilistic things to justify woman abuse. Who told you women acquire no stress.
Me Ive seen people in Bulawayo urban area insulting women for not getting babies or getting married (that is not yo culture - not mine). that is pressure but i dont see women bashing their husbads and boyfriends, have you?
We men are so selfish and dont tell each other to stop abusing women. Do you Afrobeing? have u stopped one of your relatives or friends or anyone in Harare? I do ALWAYS & i'M PROUD OF IT. Work stress??? violence against Zim or Iraqi or Filipino women (or anyone else) is BAD NEWS. DONT JUST STAND BY.
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Re: Gender is not only about women
February 24, 2003 - 03:56 AM
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THANXS ZANZIBAR
I think you are right in identifying the double standards of men, but ask yourself for how many years has the current legislation or any other legislation that promotes women's rights been passed, what has gone wrong because obviously the abuses have not declined. What I think is that women are victims, but do not want to be treated as such either because of fear, lack of information or poor alternatives......most women are afraid to report abuses by husbands because it seems to them as if they taking out their dirty linen in public, and the worst part of it all is that leaders (business;political;churches) are more often the culprits and more tragic is that some women taunt these victims. This is why I say Gender activism in Zimbabwe should go back to the drawing board.
When I talked about "culture" I mentioned it as an example of an excuse that abuses are caried under and not that it was justified. I think if I express the situation of gender desparity between the different groups of people with an open mind it will help us track where the problem originates from so as to curb it.......so before you draw daggers Zanzibar look at it from both angles
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