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Emily Kumpel
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February 18, 2003 - 12:19 PM
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This post was edited on: 2006-12-23 at 12:00 AM by: emilyk
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
February 18, 2003 - 06:00 AM
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thankyou.
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Re: hrm...
February 18, 2003 - 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by martin83
What Canada could do: tell the US gov't that it will cut off the electricity and energy supply [Canada is apparently its biggest supplier of imported electricity and energy-related supplies, including oil]...
...that'd wake him up
We could do that. . .
But on the other hand I enjoy not being nuked, thank you very much. If Bush is willing to attack Iraq over oil, well Canada is a much closer walk. That very day you'd would see an American Army marching north. I mean they already refuse to recognize our territorial waters, just because it suits them better.
And there's no way I'm walking all the way to washington just to burn the white house again. 
Ya, not being poor was # 2 on my list next to not being nuked. Canada and the united states are so intertwined economically that cutting them would most likely send one of the nations into a depression.... I wonder who that would be....
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hrm...
February 18, 2003 - 12:29 PM
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Why get a permit for marching, in the first place?
Steal a line from Nike: Just do it!
What Canada could do: tell the US gov't that it will cut off the electricity and energy supply [Canada is apparently its biggest supplier of imported electricity and energy-related supplies, including oil]...
...that'd wake him up
btw, did you hear about the "Patriot Fries"? Apparently some guy in New York state (i think it was there) was angry at the French gov't for opposing a war, so he renamed "French Fries" in his menu to "Patriot Fries".
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doesnt matter!
February 19, 2003 - 09:58 AM
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This is a nice piece of reasons... Good work emilyk. If that jackass (see easportsali's update) weren't so dumb he'd have realized, but then ... a fool is a fool is a fool!
It doesn't matter what anyone does. That's a family affair and that son of a bush (never mind the global dire results) reckons it's a game he's to finish up as his old father - the big bush - came second BIG time many years ago! I like the point made by Lauren earlier, just like any belligerent nation (or most thereof) we've seen, Iraq was armed by the mighty USA (now you know who the Kurds' enemy is)! Ha, how strange? I mentioned earlier, Osama & Co were trained & armed by the mighty USA and its sidekick (did u say UK?).
I don't know what's happening where you are, but here some people (Madiba included, as you know already) are planning to go to Iraq as human shields, add this to the happenings globally, do you think it's gonna stop the jackass and slaves? NO - How can it be, a fool is a fool is a fool! Viva belligerent fools Viva! Viva incursion & aggression viva!!!
-shoks
ps: The one day the mighty United States of America EVER listens to the impartial (???) UN on Isreal, I might start believing the world is spherical. So long I'm SO convinced it's steepy, specially for us in the south!!!
seems i can't paste this picture (source: Zapiro, 2002: www.mg.co.za) thus you'll have to click on the icon and "open"
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An article from Terry Jones (of Monty Pyhton fame)
February 22, 2003 - 06:16 AM
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I'm losing patience with my neighbours, Mr Bush
Terry Jones
Sunday January 26, 2003
The Observer
I'm really excited by George Bush's latest reason for bombing Iraq: he's running out of patience. And so am I!
For some time now I've been really pissed off with Mr Johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street. Well, him and Mr Patel, who runs the health food shop. They both give me queer looks, and I'm sure Mr Johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far I haven't been able to discover what. I've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden. That's how devious he is.
As for Mr Patel, don't ask me how I know, I just know - from very good sources - that he is, in reality, a Mass Murderer. I have leafleted the street telling them that if we don't act first, he'll pick us off one by one.
Some of my neighbours say, if I've got proof, why don't I go to the police? But that's simply ridiculous. The police will say that they need evidence of a crime with which to charge my neighbours.
They'll come up with endless red tape and quibbling about the rights and wrongs of a pre-emptive strike and all the while Mr Johnson will be finalising his plans to do terrible things to me, while Mr Patel will be secretly murdering people. Since I'm the only one in the street with a decent range of automatic firearms, I reckon it's up to me to keep the peace. But until recently that's been a little difficult. Now, however, George W. Bush has made it clear that all I need to do is run out of patience, and then I can wade in and do whatever I want!
And let's face it, Mr Bush's carefully thought-out policy towards Iraq is the only way to bring about international peace and security. The one certain way to stop Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers targeting the US or the UK is to bomb a few Muslim countries that have never threatened us.
That's why I want to blow up Mr Johnson's garage and kill his wife and children. Strike first! That'll teach him a lesson. Then he'll leave us in peace and stop peering at me in that totally unacceptable way.
Mr Bush makes it clear that all he needs to know before bombing Iraq is that Saddam is a really nasty man and that he has weapons of mass destruction - even if no one can find them. I'm certain I've just as much justification for killing Mr Johnson's wife and children as Mr Bush has for bombing Iraq.
Mr Bush's long-term aim is to make the world a safer place by eliminating 'rogue states' and 'terrorism'. It's such a clever long-term aim because how can you ever know when you've achieved it? How will Mr Bush know when he's wiped out all terrorists? When every single terrorist is dead? But then a terrorist is only a terrorist once he's committed an act of terror. What about would-be terrorists? These are the ones you really want to eliminate, since most of the known terrorists, being suicide bombers, have already eliminated themselves.
Perhaps Mr Bush needs to wipe out everyone who could possibly be a future terrorist? Maybe he can't be sure he's achieved his objective until every Muslim fundamentalist is dead? But then some moderate Muslims might convert to fundamentalism. Maybe the only really safe thing to do would be for Mr Bush to eliminate all Muslims?
It's the same in my street. Mr Johnson and Mr Patel are just the tip of the iceberg. There are dozens of other people in the street who I don't like and who - quite frankly - look at me in odd ways. No one will be really safe until I've wiped them all out.
My wife says I might be going too far but I tell her I'm simply using the same logic as the President of the United States. That shuts her up.
Like Mr Bush, I've run out of patience, and if that's a good enough reason for the President, it's good enough for me. I'm going to give the whole street two weeks - no, 10 days - to come out in the open and hand over all aliens and interplanetary hijackers, galactic outlaws and interstellar terrorist masterminds, and if they don't hand them over nicely and say 'Thank you', I'm going to bomb the entire street to kingdom come.
It's just as sane as what George W. Bush is proposing - and, in contrast to what he's intending, my policy will destroy only one street.
<url>http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,882526,00.html</url>
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
February 22, 2003 - 09:23 AM
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thanks for that article mossy. did u read the other terry jones pieces? all very interesting. and in contrast to some other articles in that compilation... its intersting to see so many views... overwhelming too... wow.
have a look at this if you havent already.
http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,896587,00.html
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
February 23, 2003 - 01:52 AM
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I dont think the US would invade Canada, but then again, you never know what the Us would try and do. But imagine the anti-war protestors then 
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
March 21, 2003 - 10:13 AM
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I do believe that the catastrophe of 9/11 was horrible and inhumane however the blame does not only fall on Osama and whatnot. United States should examine why such hate is prevalent and devise ways to curb this hate. If unjustified and not supported attacks such as the imminent one concerning Iraq causes this intense hate, US should take a step back and ask if it is doing the right thing or are they, themselves, the terroists.
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Opposing the war
March 21, 2003 - 10:25 AM
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I think United States starting war with Iraq is not the solution in solving the majority problems. Not only does it create more problems, it would kill many more innocent lives. Iraq might have done something not worthy, however that doesnt examine the reason why United States should start the war. People that fight for the war may sacrifice their lives for fighting for their country. Their faimiles may be worried about their members. Therefore, I think attacking Iraq is not the solution to any problems.
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
March 21, 2003 - 10:46 AM
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I think war is not the solution to solve all the matters. Even though people want to get rid of Saddam Hussein they still shouldn't violet the rules. America has no right actually to do all its doin( goin against Iraq). More than 50 % of teh countries backed out o US because they knew it woudn't be right just o go and attack all those innocent people out there. The war is goin to destroy many families and damage environment. If they want Saddam to surrender they sould covince the other Iraqis to go against him, that way he will be left alone ad he will have to surrender.
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
March 26, 2003 - 01:31 AM
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im split between writing this guys remarks off as sarcasm and thinking he actually emant everything he said. most of his other posts werent too pleasent either, but thats ok. saddam's weapons cant hit europe, let alone end the world. look at the united states at having an arsenal that could destroy the world. iraq wasnt the only country that celebrated 9/11. Palestine ring a bell? thats where the terrorist asshole lighting himself on fire joke came from. a palestinian lit himself on fire when burning a US flag. we arent attacking them are we? no, we are helping them become a soverign nation, which i fully support. no country should be punished for expressing their views. If the US were going against terrorist attacks, then how bout they attack the olaces where the terrorists came from? like saudi arabia, pakistan, and yemen, three of our key allies in the area. iraq has no connection to 9/11, even though 40% of all americans think so. the only reason the Iraqis havent risen up againt Saddam is because hes better then some of the alternatives, and they have no rallying point. The army breaks those up. in that way, it isnt a good idea to push for this as a solution. i cant think of a possible solution, but war is not the best of the alternatives. oh, and a point u constantly screw up is that saddam was disarming when the coalition attacked. he was compling with resolutions, but Bush decided he wasnt fast enough. thats fun. well, i guess we cant keep wou quiet, roshan, so ill shut up now.
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studs...ur tryin to hard!
March 26, 2003 - 09:57 AM
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Studs do u have some mental disabilaties? you sound like u know everything which is goin on in the world but the fact is that u dont. I researched that FAKE stuff u tol everyone about how he was disarming and i found out he was actually never even thinking about disarming! He actually threatened u guys that he would attack back with massive threats. U know when he sed that thing about air water land...and stuff does that not prove that he was never afraid of u guys! I actually think that he is still not afraid because he had been so confident that i think he would have a better plan then this thing he is doing rite now!
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Re: Reasons for opposing the war against Iraq
March 26, 2003 - 10:37 AM
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OK first of all u need to read my quote properly! I had asked u all if a couple of 1000 people dying or is a couple of million people dying better? If we don stop iraq then who will? Iraq will one day be the cause of killing all thos people with biological warfare! Think about it and don't reply too soon because so far what u r sayin is all jus weird! I am not sayin war is good! I understand that it is very bad and is totally inhumane but when talking does not work then i guess u wood be forced to atack!
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U PEOPLE IN THIS DISCSN R ALL DISGRACEFULL!
March 26, 2003 - 12:14 PM
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TELL ME ONE GOOD REASON Y USA IS WRONG IN ATTACKING PEOPLE! Iraq is having weapons that could mean the end of the world and what we doin. Sittin around in our couch goin "OH NO! PEACE NO WAR!". That don make to much sense. i mean i have heard the phrase two wrongs don make a right! But u also have to understand if we let a wrong like this untalked about. It may get out of hand. Some one has to stop the IRAQIS! The other countries are all cowards. They are afraid of what can happen. They think that there is no reason for Iraq to disable the things. WELL GUESS WHAT HERE IS A REASON! THE WORLD CAN BE DESTROYED U FOOLS. I think that there was actually no reason for Saddam to not destroy their weapons unless they had intensions of actually using them. If we let him he may even one day take over the world by threatinin us with his so called destructive weapons! I think the Americans and the british have guts and wjhat they are doin is right! AND DOLLY.. there is not gonna be anyway for the iraqs to go against there own leader! They have sed repeatedly on the news that i the IRAQI PEOPLE are with Saddam. Did u not c the way they had been celebrating when 9/11 happened? OR r u JUS BLIND? Get it through ur hed they hate the USA and they will never join on their side! AND FIONA... YES I agree with u on one point people will die. but here is another point if we don't stop Saddam won't that just give him the open shot to destroy the world or at least north america. What do u think is better A COUPLE OF 1000 PEOPLE DYING OR A COUPLE OF 1000000 PEOPLE DYING. AND JASON...OPEN UR EYES! Don't u see that the US are trying to go against terrorist atacks. What did they do to deserve 9/11? Even now on the war with Iraq. They are only trying to save us all from BIOLOGICAL WEAPONARY WHICH CAN KILL ALOT OF PEOPLE AND IS A TERORIST TYPE WEAPON! The are plainly anti-terorists!
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