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[Poll] vegetarianism
May 8, 2006 - 05:07 AM
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Are you a vegitarian? why or why not. Im intersed in this and i want to see what people come up with. I can see both sides fo this coin.
vegetarianism
are you a vegitarian
(9 votes for 50%)
is anyone in your family one besides you
(3 votes for 16.67%)
are any of your friends vegitarians
(5 votes for 27.78%)
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Re: vegetarianism
May 9, 2006 - 01:36 AM
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I'm so glad you brought up this issue...its very important to me, and I'm sure to a lot of TIG members around the world. I've been a vegetarian for just over 2 years now. I actually initially got exposed to it, i'll admit it, through the punk bands I listened to at the time. They spoke at length in interviews about the practices of slaughterhouses and the plight of factory-farmed animals (bands in question, if I remember correctly: Propaghandi, Anti-Flag, some others) From there I checked out PETA, Go Veg! and similar websites, and I really started to see why my current lifestyle was so passively destructive. I cut off meat, cold-turkey (haha) and I haven't desired it in the least, since then. Its not difficult for me, partly because I don't care for meat anymore (in terms of satisfying my palate- it doesn't appeal to me) and partly because there are just so many options that are available, and in some ways, become available to you- regarding the variety of food- when you choose to eliminate meat from your diet. This isn't exclusive to meat- it goes for dairy products, eggs, etc.- anything derived from animals. Soy and tofu are huge staples in my diet- 'veggie' anything. And you're really forced to become way healthier in your diet (this is an important aspect of becoming a vegetarian- its easy to subsist on bagels, pasta and dougnuts, claiming you're a vegetarian- and get really sick becuase of this). You have to research viable ways to get your vitamins. And like I said, so many possibilities open up as a result!
but the real reason I became a vegetarian, is because I became aware of just how horrifying the living environments are for factory-farmed cows, chickens, lambs, pigs, etc.
Its absolutly unbelievable- and then you watch file footage on PETA and you have to believe it. Its stomach-turning, and if you have any empathy for other living creatures- you can't help but feel you have to help change the overwhelming pervasion of consumption in North America- and the mass attitude of complete disregard for how those clean, neat, plastic packages of meat arrive at tables across this country.
the previous poster summarized what I'm expanding on- its mind-boggling the amount of resources that are wasted for every animal raised, abused and slaughtered. I can't remember the exact statistic, but I wrote a paper on the effects of the meat industry on human health and the environment, and I'll find what I'm referring to and post it ASAP. I think its something along the lines of- If all the grains used to feed the factory-farmed cows within the world's meat industry went instead towards those lacking enough food- in danger of starving to death- the world's hunger crisis would be solved a few times over. Also, the pollution that is a direct result of the meat and dairy industries, is astounding. Waste from animal farms, cross-contamination, etc. Anyone living in Ontario or even Canada will probably remember the huge Walkerton scandal from some years ago? Due, in part, to waste from a cow farm leaking into the town's well (and the water officials' royal botching of preventing said contamination- but thats another story). And all this about Mad Cow Disease- its not the cows' fault, you have to admit.
I don't want to sound like I'm preaching- I won't impose my views on anyone, if they don't want to hear it. And I don't
feel the least bit self-righteous, or whatever you want to call it, about my lifestyle. These are my honest beliefs, and since this is a forum discussing this topic, I feel I have to express my views as comprehensively as possible. hence this essay. 
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vegetarianismo en ESPAÑOL
May 9, 2006 - 09:08 AM
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hola q tal,
para aquellos q les interesa el tema y hablan español en la parte personal q utilizo voy a estar subiendo, entre otras cosas, articulos referidos al vegetarianismo y veganismo
saludos!
Julita
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vegetarianism
May 9, 2006 - 12:43 PM
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I do not consider myself a vegetarian because I will occasionally eat meat. I do, however, generally avoid meat-eating. I prefer vegetable and veggie dishes. My favorite agruement for vegetarianism is that farming animals, such as cattle, takes so much energy and resources, and we could feed MANY, MANY more people using these same resources to produce grains or other plants. I also enjoy the health benefits of eating less meat, and prefer to not see animals in unhealthy and hurtful, living environments as they are raised. A couple of good books is The Food Revolution.
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Re: vegetarianism
May 11, 2006 - 07:04 AM
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hey, last chance
you share my views exactly! I am a vegetarian and did it for basically the same reasons, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Hey another thing that is totally of topic, how do i get my picture smaller, it takes up sooooooo much space!
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Why I'm vegetarian
May 11, 2006 - 11:43 AM
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I went vegetarian because I started doing a lot of Yoga. It has to do with my attempt to practice Ahimsa (non-violence) towards myself and others. I was a very aggresive person before I became veggie. I was getting into fights a lot and had a lot of anger inside. All at once I went vegetarian and wuit drinking alcohol. The combination of the two totally changed my nature.
I would recommend going vegetarian to anyone, but I would not force it upon them. There are some very unhealthy vegetarians. They eat lots of scones and nasty coffee shop food, and they don't provide their bodies with anywhere near the amount of nutrients that some fish would give them. Their skin can be pale and blue. You have to be pretty disciplined to be total veggie. Otherwise their can be health consequences just like with any other type of diet.
I think it is hard for people to stay vegetarian if they do it for purely ideological reasons. I've found it easier to maintain my diet if i look at it from a health stand point. It has made my mind and soul much more at peace. That's what it has done for me. If that does or doesn't happen for someone else. That's totally there deal. Ya know? I'm not trying to force anything down someone's throat that they don't want to eat. Get it? Hah!
peace, always peace,
Bart
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vegetarian
May 12, 2006 - 02:24 AM
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I became a vegetarian at a young age. My disposition and general health became better. I stayed a vegetarian and learned a lot about both sides of the coin. One side was the horrible slaughter of animals and the cruelty. It is unbelievable but true. The other side was that you don't have to be a vegetarian necessarily to be a good person. There have been some people who claimed to be vegetarians who have done some things that were harmfull to others while some meat eaters have done good deeds that will never be forgotten. I learned not to judge others by what they ate or or push my preference on others. It is a fragile subject. Everyones body is different and it is to
complicated a topic for me to assume that I have the answer. I don't condone the ruthless treatment of animals. I love animals. I know they have feelings and are helpless. I can say that for me it was a good decision because of my sensitivity to animals and because I am 53 years old now and never felt better in my life! I am happy with the way I feel and with the friends I have. My life is full of activities and although sometimes I get very busy I am healthy and have a lot to be thankful for. A body that feels good sleeps good and stays productive.
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Re: vegetarianism
May 12, 2006 - 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by namasteshanti
Hey another thing that is totally of topic, how do i get my picture smaller, it takes up sooooooo much space!
Hi namasteshanti. To make your picture smaller 1) login and click Edit Profile (at top right of page) 2) click the About Me tab 3) go to Avatar, Browse and choose a small picture (35x35 pixels maximum) 4) click Upload
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CNY ?
May 21, 2006 - 03:53 PM
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Well, i have a friend in UNAN this one of this nature for spiritual reason.
NB...
How do i take a hold of an Organisation registered but not accesible.i.e.
Council Of Nigerian Youths.
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
July 9, 2006 - 11:54 PM
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A few months ago in religion class my teacher brought up an interesting point. The bible talks about the garden of eden and the many fruit bearing trees. Somewhere along the way humans decided they wanted more than fruit and started killing animals for food. Did God intend all mankind to be Vegiterians? Did we become too greedy, and evolve into ruthless killers against God's wishes?
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
July 25, 2006 - 01:30 PM
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My reasons for being a pescetarian (a vegetarian apart from the fact I eat fish and seafood) are different from those of most.
I believe killing animals is right and natural for the sake of food. However, we are no longer in 1500A.D. where we go into the bush to shoot the odd animal whose numbers we hardly affect.
My reasons:
1. Animals are treated disgustingly in intensive farming that is normal in the Western world.
2. It takes so many resources to feed animals that the environmental cost through waste of water, energy, food, promotion of climate change and so on is incredible and not something I can support.
So why the fish exception?
I don't like farmed fish due to the disease and inhumane conditions in those factory farms of a different kind.
Sustainably-fished fish is pulled from the sea - they feed on their natural prey and are pulled from the sea only when needed for food, not kept stuck in a cage for their whole lifes. And no, I don't like drag nets.
This post was edited on: 2006-07-25 at 02:12 PM by: chriswilliams
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
July 28, 2006 - 09:05 AM
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Hey, well I'm vegetarian and have been for more than 10 years now. I don't think I could ever eat meat again. When I made the connection between animals and meat at 10 years old, I couldn't ignore it anymore, so I guess becoming vegetarian was the logical conclusion to that.
Over the years I've read many books about vegetarianism and animal rights. With this knowledge of the meat industry and animal cruelty that I've gained from reading and talking with people, I am firmly committed and I truly believe in the ethics of vegetarianism.
I've also learnt that vegetarianism is also good for the environment and for people too!
I'd recommend to everyone reading Animal Liberation by Peter Singer, it's an invaluable source for anyone who's interested.
Jodie
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
August 21, 2006 - 10:49 AM
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Hi, I am vegetarian, and have been vegan for maybe a year or so. My older brother is also vegan.
I became one because it just felt right for me.
I had never really enjoyed meat as a child, and growing older began to tolerate it less and less. Throughout my early teenage years I had periods wherein I would stop eating meat but get back to it because I had no choice. About five years ago I began eating only seafood (easier not to go hungry), and then ommitted it eventually. I've not had seafood for 2 years or so. I've generally stopped eating dairy and eggs.
I think that, aside from the qualitative "It just feels right" feeling, everything ties in-- environmental, health, humane reasons.
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
August 26, 2006 - 02:46 PM
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I'm moving this thread to the Health board where hopefully it will get more traffic.
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Re: [Poll] vegetarianism
September 12, 2006 - 02:40 PM
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I became vegetarian 12 years ago, when I was in school and studying the holocaust. The deciding factor was at the end of Thanksgiving dinner my mother asked me to take the turkey's 'carcass' into the coldroom so that the cats wouldnt get to it. After reading so much about the overwhelming human carcasses during the holocaust, the lines blurred. I struggled to see the difference between the flesh of a human and the flesh of an animal. It was shortly after that that my mother said she witnessed the turning point -- a look of repulsion as I ate a turkey sandwich. That was the beginning of my vegetarianism (which, consequently, shook up the household system of routine 'meat n potato' dinners -- what the heck do vegetarians EAT??). It took a while to figure it out. About two years after becoming vegetarian I decided to turn vegan. This was initially not a choice based on animal rights, but based on intuitive eating. I had begun a regular yoga practice and my body had begun rejecting certain foods -- dairy, wheat, sugar, caffiene. I became ultra sensitive to all of them (these are the most common dietary allergens). I cut them all out.
I read more about vegan politics -- I was sold. Not only was it what my body wanted, but it was good for animals, the environment, supporting indy companies...
that's been my path ever since. it takes years to learn how to properly balance a vegan diet to your body's needs...naturopaths and traditional chinese medicine doctors are great guides to ensuring the right balance of vitamins and minerals, and that you are eating for your body type, or 'climate'. i mean, naturopaths and TCM is great anyway, even if you aren't vegetarian or vegan.
so yah...IT'S ALL GOOD!
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