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Media: The truth or not
March 30, 2006 - 12:07 PM

This message board is about media, but i see so many people who right off the bad are against it, claiming it to be bias and saying how it have such a detrimental effect on out society, mostly our youth. The truth is that media is bias, we all know this.
However what i am getting the feeling of is that people dont understand the fact that media cannot be any other way. Media is provided by people, just like us. They see the world one way, they put a piece of themselves, be it opinions, beliefs, etc into what they do.
If its writing then you know it will be based off the person who is writing its personal opinion. In big name television channels its off of the corperation's heads, what they think, based off statistics, people want to see. Not forgetting of course that they are being paid to show things to people from other big name corperations.
Everyone complains about the media, i do too, however what do we do to fix it? Is there even a way to fix something that is produced based off of a known bias source? If i've gotten something wrong or left something out let me know, or if someone has an idea of how they think the media problem can be fixed.

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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 21, 2006 - 10:58 AM

Well much as I appreciate and respect your opinion I do not fully agree with your point of view.What you should not forget is that there are advantages and diadvantages to everything.Media is important because it keeps us well informed on whats happening around the globe.I think it will be unproffessional to say its based on opinion becuse three quaters of the media reports are based on facts.However, I can not deny the fact that there are exaggerations but these are meant to spicy up the news for the sake of winning viewers or rather attract attention.


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 21, 2006 - 11:35 AM


april333 wrote:

This message board is about media, but i see so many people who right off the bad are against it, claiming it to be bias and saying how it have such a detrimental effect on out society, mostly our youth. The truth is that media is bias, we all know this.
However what i am getting the feeling of is that people dont understand the fact that media cannot be any other way. Media is provided by people, just like us. They see the world one way, they put a piece of themselves, be it opinions, beliefs, etc into what they do.
If its writing then you know it will be based off the person who is writing its personal opinion. In big name television channels its off of the corperation's heads, what they think, based off statistics, people want to see. Not forgetting of course that they are being paid to show things to people from other big name corperations.
Everyone complains about the media, i do too, however what do we do to fix it? Is there even a way to fix something that is produced based off of a known bias source? If i've gotten something wrong or left something out let me know, or if someone has an idea of how they think the media problem can be fixed.


I agree totally with you smile

The cure to or detour of this "problem" of bas is to "distill" the truth via reading many independent sources and checking up their consitentcies and eliminating anything that is not in any way correlated to any source info!

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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 21, 2006 - 12:31 PM


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Everyone complains about the media, i do too, however what do we do to fix it? Is there even a way to fix something that is produced based off of a known bias source?


Good question. I think education plays a major role in helping people become more "media literate". This means teaching consumers of media not only to identify the "spin" of the media source or to recognize the ideologies being tapped into, but more importantly, to develop the ability to judge whether they are knowledgeable enough to critically consume certain media stories.


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 21, 2006 - 10:49 PM

Yes, i think checking sources is an important thing to do when trying to get the full story.

However I see where you're coming from mubby, but do you not at least think it could be possible for the media to put their own "spin" on it based off of their own opinions? Take this for example...
One big news station where i live tells a story about a person shooting a police officer, right? In their report they tell about all his "horrible" history and about what a great cop the police officer was. He may have been, but most likely he was just a regular ticket cop.
Another news station covers the story, but this time in their report they tell about how the guy claimed how he felt threatened and scared by how harsh the cop was talking.

Which is right? Whose side do we sympothize for the most? And why do they put different sides in the better, not good, but better light?

I'm not criticizing you, i'm glad you replied. I'm just asking if you think that media based on opinions is possible in the sense we're talking about.


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June 21, 2006 - 10:50 PM

One thing you need to remember on "Factual" reporting is where those facts came from. If I ask 100 people what happened at a bank robbery I'm going to get different responses and stories, how can I tell which one is closest to fact? Do you do the one that most people agreed on? Even if the area is an area known to be racist and one of the suspects is a minority in that area?

Factual reporting is just reporting using sources that are believed to be truthful. So if that source is wrong on this fact or is lying about it then the entire story turns out to be a lie.

Another thing is that someone has to approve what stories go into the media, be it the editor-in-chief or the owner. If that person doesn't like a subject then odds are it's going to be left out, or misreported.

Another thing to reminder when it comes to reading is this- Last time I checked a few hundred years ago it was a fact that the world was flat.


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 24, 2006 - 04:29 AM

I agree with PyroJoker!
we can say that media does affect each individuals, we may can find source of information but in a way there's also some disadvantage of it, to be a media reporter it is your duty to provide information which is factual and comes from a reliable source.


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 3, 2007 - 04:05 AM

umm forget about that point about the corporation payin money to show their point of view there is worst
Media in my opinion is a way to let people see what the government want them to see nothing more
most of the "simple" people will simply believe what they read directly those simple people are a majority soo..... you simply got them all in maybe one poor article
plus if the newspaper or the magazine owner is biased with a gov. or a corporation he will simply wont publish any article he dont like from his journalist so were is the truth and where is this so called freedom *

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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 3, 2007 - 10:06 AM

yes well...The freedom you speek of does not exist in my opinion. I myself have been on a newspaper publication for my high school and have freelanced for a couple other mainstreem papers and that freedom does not exist. Editors will say whether or not you can put something in the paper. (being the edior chief of my high school paper, I had to do it too) Sometimes it is because of contraversy problems, and sometimes it is becausethe higher up executives think it wont go well with the "money givers",


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June 3, 2007 - 11:02 AM

exactly "thanks for explaining the point april smile "
now as you see where is the so called freedom of speech and where is that TRUTH that you are asking about since they show us only what they want to show us or in their terms WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TE BE SHOWN sad but its never the truthsad


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 4, 2007 - 03:48 AM

Not necessarily. It is truth. It is their truth, or a more one sided view of the truth.


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 4, 2007 - 06:51 AM


april333 wrote:

Not necessarily. It is truth. It is their truth, or a more one sided view of the truth.


umm not really
they know that they are lying and firstly on themselves but they still continue to publish it tryin to lie evn more on the poor ppl sad


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June 4, 2007 - 10:27 AM

This is true, but they do it for a reason. Most media is controled by "liberals" people say, but is that true? They report one side of something, such as that a 'black man broke into a resteraunt, stole money, and shot a worker there before fleeing the scene.' (that happens to be white.)

Okay, here is where the one sided comes into play. Who cares if the man is white, black, or purple? They failed to mention he was just trying to get moeny for christmas presents or got fired from his job. They dont say that the employee scared him and with such gittery nerves, the man instinctively shot the employee or that it accidentily discharged, afterwhich not running because he knew someone would hear, but because he was scared at when he just done.

See? I can give more examples if you want (they'd be real)


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 4, 2007 - 01:25 PM

i got your point. but that even prooves more that nobody gives the truth smile and you will only know what they want you to know so we are still in the circle that never ends about where the truth lies


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Re: Media: The truth or not
June 4, 2007 - 01:58 PM

It is called deductive reasoning. To get to the truth you should read different articles on different internet sites or newspapers. The internet has blessed us with the power of being able to access news sites from all over the world. You can even get translated ones. So "shop" around to get the scoop.

Besides it doesnt really matter what the media says, people decide for themselves what they are going to believe. The media is only there to really try to persuade you to believe one thing or the other, it is the people's own fault that they believe blindly. Why dont people ever listen to themselves? Parents always say "dont believe everything you see on tv (news stations) or that you read (newspapers)."


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