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Imperialism,what is it
February 11, 2006 - 10:08 AM
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What is your definition of imperialism.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
February 12, 2006 - 12:57 PM
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"Imperialism is a policy of extending control or authority over foreign entities as a means of acquisition and/or maintenance of empires, either through direct territorial conquest or through indirect methods of exerting control on the politics and/or economy of other countries. The term is often used to describe the policy of a country in maintaining colonies and dominance over distant lands, regardless of whether the country calls itself an empire."
- quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism)
If you want to know more about it read for example Henry Kissinger's "Diplomacy", or Huntignton's "Clashes of civilizations". None of them as you see is about Imperialism directly but Imperialism as anything else can be defined relative to something, usually an opposing or contrary idea, say Demacracy in this case!
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 24, 2006 - 02:51 AM
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"I believe that a prosperous, democratic Pakistan will be a steadfast
partner for America, a peaceful neighbor for India, and a force for freedom and moderation in the Arab world." —George W. Bush, mistakenly identifying Pakistan as an Arab country, Islamabad, Pakistan, March 3, 2006
"[I]t's a myth to think I don't know what's going on. It's a myth to think that I'm not aware that there's opinions that don't agree with mine, because I'm fully aware of that." —George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Pa., Dec. 12, 2005
"Wow! Brazil is big." —George W. Bush, after being shown a map of Brazil by Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brasilia, Brazil, Nov. 6, 2005
read the rest on http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 24, 2006 - 03:30 AM
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Bush cannot beat Mr.Rumsfeld. Here take a look:
The Unknown
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.
—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 24, 2006 - 03:34 AM
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is this an imperialist's jargon!!!
Clarity
I think what you'll find,
I think what you'll find is,
Whatever it is we do substantively,
There will be near-perfect clarity
As to what it is.
And it will be known,
And it will be known to the Congress,
And it will be known to you,
Probably before we decide it,
But it will be known.
Donald Rumsfeld —Feb. 28, 2003, Department of Defense briefing
i think we know the answer!
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 24, 2006 - 06:56 AM
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U should ask president Bush. He's the master
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 24, 2006 - 12:02 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Bush is a master of nothing.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 25, 2006 - 02:53 AM
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>Bush is a master of nothing.
That y he's the biggest terror in the world as he becomes the president of USA & clash with the muslim world!
He knows no fear!
He knows no danger!
He knows nothing!
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/25/AR2006032500945.html
Vatican Sees Warming Relations With China
By VICTOR L. SIMPSON
The Associated Press
Sunday, March 26, 2006; 12:22 AM
VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican's foreign minister said Saturday that the "time is ripe" for the Holy See and Beijing to establish diplomatic relations, and confirmed it is ready to move its embassy from Taiwan.
However, there were some things that the Vatican will not give up, Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo said, in an apparent reference to the Roman Catholic Church's tradition that the pope names his bishops. China demands a say in the appointment of bishops.
"As is known, there have already been various contacts, with ups and downs," Lajolo said in an interview with Hong Kong station I-Cable TV. "It seems to me that the Holy See has clearly explained what it is asking for, what it is ready to concede and what it can never give up if it is to remain faithful to itself. In our opinion, the time is ripe."
The text from the interview was made available at the Vatican during the ceremonies installing 15 new cardinals, including Hong Kong Bishop Joseph Zen, an outspoken champion of religious freedom in China.
Zen acknowledged in an interview with The Associated Press that the appointment of bishops was the chief obstacle, but said he was confident a formula could be found to overcome the differences.
"They should not be afraid," Zen said of the Beijing authorities, suggesting they held an outdated view of the church as an "imperialist" institution.
Zen stressed the importance of continuing contacts with the Holy See, spurred by Pope Benedict XVI's desire to reach out to China. "For a long time they had stopped talking," he said.
Lajolo said it was clear that the spiritual needs of the several million Catholics in China are more urgent than those of the 300,000 Catholics in Taiwan.
"For this reason the Holy See has manifested its willingness to transfer the apostolic nunciature from Taipei to Beijing just as in 1952, on account of the circumstances of the time, it transferred the nunciature from mainland China to Taiwan."
He added that the Vatican had communicated its wish to move its embassy to both governments.
However, the Taiwanese Foreign Ministry said Sunday that the Vatican has reassured Taiwan it will not establish diplomatic ties with China until Beijing allows more religious freedom.
"We are closely monitoring the development, but ... the Holy See's relations with us are kept as normal," said Michel Lu, a Foreign Ministry spokesman.
Roman Catholics on mainland China were forced to cut ties with the Vatican shortly after the officially atheistic Communist Party took power in 1949. Worship is allowed only in government-controlled churches, but millions belong to unofficial congregations loyal to Rome. The authority to appoint bishops on the mainland has been a major obstacle in relations between the Vatican and China.
Lajolo said the Vatican does not intend to weaken its "bonds of friendship" with Taiwan Catholics and the entire population. Last month, Zen said the Taiwanese were "psychologically preparing" for a change in their status with the Vatican.
Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949, and most countries in the world officially recognize Beijing instead of Taipei. The Vatican is Taiwan's only diplomatic ally in Europe.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
March 27, 2006 - 04:45 AM
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Imperialism is knowing that while British colonists slept on beds gilded in gold while my ancestors slept on dirt floors. It is knowing that they grew fat while my ancestors starved, and died. It is knowing that my ancestors had to carry them on their shoulders when they wanted to go somewhere, and treated my ancestors as dirt.
It is all that, and more.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
June 14, 2006 - 02:54 PM
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luke wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Bush is a master of nothing.
I would like to agree with Luke's sentiments because Bush is indeed the master of nothing, he is a servant to his imperialist masters. Having said that, I would like Luke to elaborate on the above quote, because he is American so I want to know what he and his peers think about imperialism.
From a Canadian perspective, I know that Canada is responsible supporting imperialist initiatives in Haiti and Afghanistan.
Is there a difference between government and corporate imperialism?
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
June 15, 2006 - 06:08 AM
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ChibiMelody wrote:
Imperialism is knowing that while British colonists slept on beds gilded in gold while my ancestors slept on dirt floors. It is knowing that they grew fat while my ancestors starved, and died. It is knowing that my ancestors had to carry them on their shoulders when they wanted to go somewhere, and treated my ancestors as dirt.
It is all that, and more.
True true! But one is not necessarily the cause of the second...
The word imperialism comes from latin which means supreme power.. When out of homogeny of similar-capacity entities one or several become more prominent and powerful to whatever reasons, it became rather not surprising, due to human nature of power lust among other reasons , that these entities throw weight around..
So what I am saying is that it is rather normal episode in case when you have a weak and a strong that things happen the way they did, they still do and they will always do...
It is not just, fair, but it is so and our nature is to blame for it..
H.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
June 15, 2006 - 06:17 AM
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Scruffmouth wrote:
luke wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Bush is a master of nothing.
I would like to agree with Luke's sentiments because Bush is indeed the master of nothing, he is a servant to his imperialist masters. Having said that, I would like Luke to elaborate on the above quote, because he is American so I want to know what he and his peers think about imperialism.
From a Canadian perspective, I know that Canada is responsible supporting imperialist initiatives in Haiti and Afghanistan.
Is there a difference between government and corporate imperialism?
I m not American but i can give my insights on this issue..
I think the main reason why G.W. Bush became as popular as he has despite all his shortcomings is that he was and is still considered a "folk" man, or in other words a "friend of masses". By masses I mean usually below-average educated and rather lower rank (in terms of job, social placement, and living stadards). And as we know in each country number of the population fullfilling this criteria is usually above 80% even for a country such as the US.
He is seen as a simple man, able to talk direct and with a popular language.. He knows to show compassion among these masses through whichever means. And usually these masses dont know and dont want to know about foreign policy or more sophisticated issues of dometic policy. All they care are simple things such as taxes, salaries, etc.
His appeal is huge to these masses and its these masses that choose and support him. The part of the American population which are more knwoledgable and aware know what he really is but unfortunately they are not in big numbers..
That's I think one of main reasons why he is still the president of the US.
H.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
June 22, 2006 - 12:22 PM
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Scruffmouth: I disagree with you about Afghanistan and Hati. We're in Afghanistan as part of N.A.T.O (North Atlantic Trade Organization). A little known fact about that organization, is that article one of the founding charter basically states that if one of its members is attacked, the rest will come to its defense. And now, it is a matter of self-defense; we have been named as a target of Al Queda.
Our misssion in Hati, is mandated by the U.N., with French, and American troops, and is more humanitarian in nature than actual combat.
I'm now going to introduce a new element to the debate: cultural imperialism- where the culture of one country overwhelms another country. The example of this I would use is the whole America-Canada dynamic. We're bombarded by so many American tv shows, news, music, and celebrities that a lot of times our own culture gets lost in the crossfire.
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Re: Imperialism,what is it
June 23, 2006 - 01:06 PM
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scufflemouth -
I think you need to be cafeful not to overgeneralize "Imperialism" to be every action that takes place outside your boarders.
by that logic the US was being "Imperialists" by entering WW2 because they were becoming involved in Europe.
Places like Haiti and Afghanistan are TRULY troubled regions where a foreign force is unfortunately sometimes REQUIRED for basic peace a safety, and for the existance of Human Rights.
Take the Sudan, the UN wants to insert a force - this would undoubtably include both US and Canadian forces.
There are some who would call this Imperialism - but I don't think so - I think it is a matter of doing the right thing and ending a genocide.
So "Imperialism" like "Terrorism" is a term that is losing its meaning by overuse.
If the US is to be considered an Imperialist Empire it is unlike any before.
The Soviets, the Japanese, the Germans, the French under Napolean, the British, the Ottomans etc.
all of these Empires conquered countries and then kept them under direct rule.
The US is proping up democracies - they turned Afghansitan over to NATO and supposedly will leave Iraq at some point.
that is a significant difference from any Empire which has come before it.
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June 23, 2006 - 06:07 PM
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Imperialism is to have 60 countries and to try (in any method) to conquer one more....
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