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Dereje Amera

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Poverty cannot be Overcome Unless the Politics is changed
January 23, 2006 - 08:00 AM

It is indeed mere illusion to eradicate the poverty in poor countries, unless the politics and politicians are changed to different and matured way of perceiving the cosmos. Africans are in most cases are led by leaders who do not have the grasp of basic concepts of thelaw of the universe and many realities; and by the time they start grasping realities, others will come and remove them, This cycle of ignorance is the main and root cause of African poverty which needs complete overhaul in such aspects of our life.

To abolish poverty, poverty in leadership must be the target. For this to happen, the YOUTH should start to think deep and thick now than ever.

Youth can transform the World. Youth can change this darkness to light.


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Dereje Amera

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Re: Poverty cannot be Overcome Unless the Politics is changed
January 23, 2006 - 08:45 AM

Hi Mnog:

To me country and company are totally different stories. Companies are entities which are subjected to the rules and regulation of countries, in which their sole existence is dependent upon the rules of the countries. Their very nature is totally different, it is like comparing creator and the created..

What I say of the basic knowledge of the cosmos, i am telling about those deep realities which they were supposedly be knowledgeable about this world, ..not those basic truths. I want to expalin more on what I said about, basic concepts of thelaw of the universe and many realities,

I wanted to say like much is expected when you become leader of an entire natiion, much grasp of realities and the way things function. You are not supposed to know as any ordinary person knows, but rather as leader much and deep thinking are expected from you. You have to lead the public in theories, concepts, thoughts,understanding of realities, multi-dimensional aspect and wide angles of perspectives, and many many more ideals. To be a leaders is the greatest capacity that one can acquire on the planet earth as human being. It is not something that you sit on a comfortable chair and decide.. with this aspect and ,many more things to be considered, one can clearly see and understand whata i want to say. To be a leader i snot like being acompany manager,,,it is far beyond that..

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Poverty is due to poor leadership
January 23, 2006 - 08:46 AM

Hi Mnog:

To me country and company are totally different stories. Companies are entities which are subjected to the rules and regulation of countries, in which their sole existence is dependent upon the rules of the countries. Their very nature is totally different, it is like comparing creator and the created..

What I say of the basic knowledge of the cosmos, i am telling about those deep realities which they were supposedly be knowledgeable about this world, ..not those basic truths. I want to expalin more on what I said about, basic concepts of thelaw of the universe and many realities,

I wanted to say like much is expected when you become leader of an entire natiion, much grasp of realities and the way things function. You are not supposed to know as any ordinary person knows, but rather as leader much and deep thinking are expected from you. You have to lead the public in theories, concepts, thoughts,understanding of realities, multi-dimensional aspect and wide angles of perspectives, and many many more ideals. To be a leaders is the greatest capacity that one can acquire on the planet earth as human being. It is not something that you sit on a comfortable chair and decide.. with this aspect and ,many more things to be considered, one can clearly see and understand whata i want to say. To be a leader i snot like being acompany manager,,,it is far beyond that..

Best,


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Poverty is due to poor leadership
January 23, 2006 - 08:47 AM

Hi Mnog:

To me country and company are totally different stories. Companies are entities which are subjected to the rules and regulation of countries, in which their sole existence is dependent upon the rules of the countries. Their very nature is totally different, it is like comparing creator and the created..

What I say of the basic knowledge of the cosmos, i am telling about those deep realities which they were supposedly be knowledgeable about this world, ..not those basic truths. I want to expalin more on what I said about, basic concepts of thelaw of the universe and many realities,

I wanted to say like much is expected when you become leader of an entire natiion, much grasp of realities and the way things function. You are not supposed to know as any ordinary person knows, but rather as leader much and deep thinking are expected from you. You have to lead the public in theories, concepts, thoughts,understanding of realities, multi-dimensional aspect and wide angles of perspectives, and many many more ideals. To be a leaders is the greatest capacity that one can acquire on the planet earth as human being. It is not something that you sit on a comfortable chair and decide.. with this aspect and ,many more things to be considered, one can clearly see and understand whata i want to say. To be a leader i snot like being acompany manager,,,it is far beyond that..

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Re: Poverty cannot be Overcome Unless the Politics is changed
January 23, 2006 - 09:26 AM

hello Dereje,

usually leaders of countries, whether African or otherwise, are supposed to be as mature and as knowledgable as it is possible, and ithink usually they are...

I will just give you an example providing a paralel between a country and a company(i think i did that somewhere on tig already).

Company, as any country, has its structure its laws, rules, and its people. Company as any country is governed usually by a group of chosen person(s), which are elected according their merits. Now lets not go into small details of implementational differences in these two cases...

Now do you think that any of companies that went bankrupt or had hard time were having bosses who lacked intelligence, grasp of cosmos rules, motivation, or courage??

I did a thesis on some of those failure companies and believe me none of their bosses was stupid or incopetent.. on contrary they were usually the most brilliant the most striving of all... Let me not give you any names here, but if need is i can provide with all info, but usually in companies as in coutries, top leaders are usually chosen for merit(in case of some countries of Africa i agree factors like election by corruption, by military force, by pullingother non-legal strings happens)..

so why did i say all this? because the problem sometimes comes from the fact that in companies, as also in countries, these leaders are too greedy, egoistic, etc and think of their future(or future election) and accomplish everything from that point of view rather then looking at what the company or country needs in longterm.. Added to that the fact that, in cse Africa, lot of external constraints are applied, in terms of trade and economic developments, plus the fact there is an intensive outflux of talented peopleto where "the bread is", we come to situation where everything is as it is in some African countries and elsewhere in certina other regions: short-term, narrow minded, fast rewarding solutions prevail..

What needs to be done is to start not just accepting the aid from outside but to buil the capacity from inside, first of all reviving the educational systems, whether in legal or structural terms, and thanks God there are many mostly US orgs who provide trainings, spread info etc.


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January 23, 2006 - 09:31 AM

Poverty of the soul is indeed an issue threatening the future of many societies.Leaders are the mediators for the citizen and getting the best mode of mediation is ensured through a concern for ethical decisions. Ethical decisions are made best through observance of prayer to Allah 5 times a day. Craig Hubley, a green ideologue asserted this in an e-mail discussion on the theory of Socio Economic. He supported my propositions for global adoption of prayer by all men and women for safeguarding the temporal and eternal interests of all. This has become urgent for ecological health and ecological safety too as with the globalisation of atheistic leisure use pattern we are wasting too much of non renewable energy while contribuitng to the accumulation of green house gases.

Let us communicate for global adoption of prayer by men and women as all of us are responsible for our deeds. Problems like AIDS will be also tacked better this way as fidelity inrelationship is key along with the use of family planning measures.

Please consider my submissions at the site of TIG


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Re: Poverty cannot be Overcome Unless the Politics is changed
January 23, 2006 - 10:52 AM

Originally posted by dere
Hi Mnog:

To me country and company are totally different stories. Companies are entities which are subjected to the rules and regulation of countries, in which their sole existence is dependent upon the rules of the countries. Their very nature is totally different, it is like comparing creator and the created..


Please do not compare country in terms of having regulations to which companies should comply. Thats the reality, but its not the cause-and-effect point here. Coutries are niether cause nor the effect of existence of companies, not directly.
My point was to ocmpare a coutry and a company as entity adhering to certain regulations, rules and having similar goals.
And nature of a coutry and of a company is not that different: its about achieving the highest profit, whether a shareholder value or otherwise, in a largest meaning of that word for both entities.. and therefore a better life for "consituants", whether people of country or employees of a company.


I wanted to say like much is expected when you become leader of an entire natiion, much grasp of realities and the way things function.

So it is when you become a head of a company(or a vice president), especially in modern big internationals, take IBM, which have around 320,000 employees, more than habitants of Luxembourg for example, which is a state-ciy itself.


You are not supposed to know as any ordinary person knows, but rather as leader much and deep thinking are expected from you. You have to lead the public in theories, concepts, thoughts,understanding of realities, multi-dimensional aspect and wide angles of perspectives, and many many more ideals.


My friend, its exactly the same, believe me, for any company! No leader of a company is a simple person being elevated by a chnace but a carefully chosen one who is supposed to know more than anyone else especially to where the company is heading, vision of the company!


To be a leaders is the greatest capacity that one can acquire on the planet earth as human being. It is not something that you sit on a comfortable chair and decide.. with this aspect and ,many more things to be considered, one can clearly see and understand whata i want to say. To be a leader i snot like being acompany manager,,,it is far beyond that..

Best,


Oh, thats the same with any company also! I totally agree, you dont become someone making a difference in world affairs by going to discos or gettting sunburnt in Hawaii.

But there is a catch! Leader nowadays became a term mostly associated with organizations and companies, and how people behave and work there. Its a pure misconception, for Leadership begins on a very personal level, from inside-out and spreads in everything that person does, including his/her work etc.

Read "7 habits of higly effective people" of Stephen Covey about it!

Cheers,
Hayk


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