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Re: (untitled)
January 20, 2006 - 03:11 AM
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Hello Peter,
Your first link on MSN is broken but the second one works fine and conatins quite a useful info!
Thanks for that!
PEACE
Hayk
P.S. If I may ask what means 8.5.60 which you put at the begininng of your message(s)?
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Your choise for Russia in ice age
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DOMEDiscussions
1.Biovariety or unity?
2.National idea or kingdom come?
3.New biotechnology or Suprematizm?
4.World religion or fundamentalizm?
5.Freedomfor all or private security?
6.Limited information or legalisation of illegal?
7.Accessible dwelling for poor or palaces for rich ones?
8.Ecological tourism or raw matirial supply?
9.Privilages or worthy wages?
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Re: (untitled)
January 25, 2006 - 03:31 AM
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25/12/1426
Quote " The consideration has been made for this InterFaith Settlement to be established within a previously held public park. This is consideration is made to facilitate less disruption compared with proceeding through the somewhat corporate methodology of raising capital, negotiating the purchase of land, and possibly, effectively evicting disgruntled residents."
With respect to all efforts, but this make me feel that this is not related to interfaith but more related to materialism than religious or interfaith .
As a Muslim, I believe that Quraan , sunnah and Islam arranged all relationships and treatments , either for life or treating others and also for the hereafter . can you convince me that consideration of interface can replace any heavenly religion or . In my case I prefer to return to Quraan if I face any proplem with others as Quraan is my guide of good treatment to others. I think it is better to teach people the original bibles because they are all from one God
This is not attack to such institutes, but may be I need some explanation in some points, so if you please reply briefly as the site is difficult to open
From your studies of different religions, you know that when God send messenger you do not have to believe partially in some verses(original) but you must believe in all and as you know that messengers came to explain what people difered in previous bible and the last and complementary religion to all is islam
What do you think and believe, please discuss with us what you have studied
This is just question , but I must be honest and tell you that I want to remove doubt of the relation between your study and work as lawyer , is your discussions to the Quote " The consideration has been made for this interfaith Settlement to be established within a previously held public park. This is consideration is made to facilitate less disruption compared with proceeding through the somewhat corporate methodology of raising capital, negotiating the purchase of land, and possibly, effectively evicting disgruntled residents." Or advertisement for more students to the institute, please try to help removing doubt from my heart in this issue
Could you please reply questions in threads from your studies
With humble to the only creator of the universe
Hope peace for all
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Re: (untitled)
January 26, 2006 - 05:06 AM
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Thanx very much for care and quick reply appreciating the respectable way of disscusion
Quote"If you are interested in the specific doctrines that are involved within the Faith that I share, I am willing to provide a description of these doctrines as well as the Holy Scriptures from which these doctrines are derived"
please let as hear you
salam peace سلام
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January 27, 2006 - 06:21 AM
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This is not interfaith as my sixth senesce noticed, let is discuss
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"Remember the Sabbath; keep it Holy"
"Asona abstains from operations on Jumuah, Shabbat, and Sunday in observance of the respective recognition of the Sabbath."
Do you think this represent interfaith or only one religion?
Please tell us direct and simple reply
As Muslims we know that all religions are from the same creator Allah who gave us the precious guide for life and after life and we believe in his angles, prophets and messengers, all his bibles which have the same guidance (in its original bibles"
Quraan came to correct what was changed by people after the other religions that came to guide them
Example From your link "Refrain from the consumption of animals"
While the last book from Allah mentioned in Surat Al-An`am, that Allah says:
وَعَلَى الَّذِينَ هَادُواْ حَرَّمْنَا كُلَّ ذِى ظُفُرٍ وَمِنَ الْبَقَرِ وَالْغَنَمِ حَرَّمْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ شُحُومَهُمَآ إِلاَّ مَا حَمَلَتْ ظُهُورُهُمَآ " "
which means (And unto those who are Jews, We forbade every (animal) with undivided hoof, and We forbade them the fat of the ox and the sheep except what adheres to their backs)
Allah also said:
ل لاَ أَجِدُ فِى مَآ أُوْحِىَ إِلَىَّ مُحَرَّمًا عَلَى طَاعِمٍ يَطْعَمُهُ إِلاَ أَن يَكُونَ مَيْتَةً أَوْ دَمًا مَّسْفُوحًا أَوْ لَحْمَ خِنزِيرٍ فَإِنَّهُ رِجْسٌ أَوْ فِسْقًا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَاغٍ وَلاَ عَادٍ فَإِنَّ رَبَّكَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ ]
(6:145. Say: "I find not in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be Maytah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine; for that surely, is unclean (Rijs), or immorally slaughtered in the name of other than Allah. But whosoever is forced by necessity without willful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits; (for him) certainly, your Lord is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Regarding the commands in your link Allah said in Quraan
"وَالَّذِينَ لاَ يَدْعُونَ مَعَ اللَّهِ إِلَـهَا ءَاخَرَ وَلاَ يَقْتُلُونَ النَّفْسَ الَّتِى حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ وَلاَ يَزْنُونَ "
Which means: (And those who invoke not any other god along with Allah, nor kill such person as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse...) [25:68].''
Which agree with the commands in your link as mosses, Jesus and Mohammed's (pray be upon them all) religions are from Allah.
Allah said in Quraan:
[قُلْ إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ رَبِّيَ الْفَوَحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ وَالإِثْمَ وَالْبَغْىَ بِغَيْرِ الْحَقِّ وَأَن تُشْرِكُواْ بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَـناً وَأَن تَقُولُواْ عَلَى اللَّهِ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ ]
whoch means: (Say: "(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are Al-Fawahish (immoral sins) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allah for which He has given no authority, and saying things about Allah of which you have no knowledge." [7:33]
More and more is mentioned in Quraan for good treatments to other, human rights, women and kids rights, family affairs, inheritance. Commercial treatments, protecting people, moral and ethics, creation, science facts
This shows people that all religions from Allah the only creator have the same guidance
My objection is about the name you said interfaith while the inside concentrate on (Sabbath people)., less concentrate on one and the least concentrate on Islam although Islam is the last religion which discuss every thing
Please tell us why?
it could be only peaceful community as we learned and do in out part of the world bit we can not say this is interfaith. It is better to teach people their original religions without change of words of Allah so they can live in peace together as Allah ordered us;
salam
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January 29, 2006 - 08:11 AM
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Thanx but still did not have direct reply, so I only trust my heart as I am not convinced and do not believe that human even try to interfere in God religions. It is better to call this community peace community and not interfaith to make united religion. All religions from Allah are the best to build ideal and peaceful community
salam
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January 30, 2006 - 12:09 PM
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" I do believe in the words of the Prophet Muhammad, much like I believe the words of the Prophet Rishis, I believe in the words of the Prophet Moses, I believe in the words of the Prophet Buddha, and I believe in the words of the Prophet Jesus, and I believe in the words of any prophet or person within the Universe who speaks the Truth"
I appreciate this believe which is nearly similar to Quraan 2: 285 which means that Prophet (SAW) believed in what was descend to him from his lord and believers also believed in Allah, his angles, his books and his messengers, do not distiguish between any of his messengers…….."
My last comments as I do not like turning discussion to individual arguments:
1-Each question is turned to accuse beside some words I believe that it is insult to older one and I do not need disscussion like this although you always mention respect
I said
"PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ATTENTION TO UNAUTHENTIC TRANSLATION BECAUSE IT MISGUIDE YOU.
WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
LEAVE PEOPLE LIVE IN PEACE WITH EACH OTHER FOLLOWING THEIR OWN BELIEVES
AND BIBLES WITHOUT CHANGE
This is not for you of course because you are not responsible on changing words of Allah but please only write what you know from authentic site of translation"
So why always insist that this is accuse or you misguide. Any one read what I write understand that wrong translation (which is not yours) is the cause of misguiding and in most sites no one know who is the translator, even Muslims can mistake in translating because Arabic has wide range of words with different meaning according to the sentences. If you read my thread you will find that I changed sites because of wrong translation and I ask any one to tell me when find mistakes to correct.
If you want to discuss let people ask to know
Pertaining joke, it is not Jake , it is trial to minimize stress during discussion tiered me to take definite and direct answers for questions may any one ask
I asked you if my discussion is boring tell me directly
I asked you also other things but you insisted to do again
My last advise (not for you ) for anyone to study original words of Allah and not to choose what suites human and make Allah angry
I also assure you that I am without anger or malice towards you. May you and your family continue to experience wellbeing.
Thanks for effort and wasting time in side argument regardless to insulting and accusing and charging me may Allah forgive us all
Please do not foreword posts to me again till I feel real respect and understand
salam
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