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Rachel Redpath

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December 6, 2005 - 03:35 AM

The people of the United States are rather divided when it comes to their country's involvement in Iraq. This issue stirs up much controversy: Should the U.S. stay in Iraq? How long should they stay? Did they have any business entering Iraq?
I'm curious about how people in other countries view the United States' behavior and involvement in world issues.

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December 7, 2005 - 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Palestinian
The United States invaded Iraq to gain contol over the oil and natural resources of the country, and to make it a base for future invasions in the region. It is an occupation force. That is the simple truth that many won't recognize.

Ypu don't think it might have been to remove a tyrannical dictator from power.To stop people from being tortured and killed.To let people have freedom from his power.
Besides the oil what other natural resourses does it have? Sand.
If it was to occupy the country we would let it hold elections.The elections are being taken care of by the UN.
If we wanted the oil we would have taken over the country after the Gulf War we had more troops there then.
Wake up pal.


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December 7, 2005 - 07:26 AM

The United States invaded Iraq to gain contol over the oil and natural resources of the country, and to make it a base for future invasions in the region. It is an occupation force. That is the simple truth that many won't recognize.


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December 7, 2005 - 07:39 AM

http://www.takingitglobal.org/connections/discuss/showthread.html?threadid=12455&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

it's the same discussion...plz continue on the link above..kindly..


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December 7, 2005 - 08:45 AM

Originally posted by aymanelhakea
http://www.takingitglobal.org/connections/discuss/showthread.html?threadid=12455&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

it's the same discussion...plz continue on the link above..kindly..

No it's not.


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December 7, 2005 - 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by stevez
Ypu don't think it might have been to remove a tyrannical dictator from power.To stop people from being tortured and killed.To let people have freedom from his power. Besides the oil what other natural resourses does it have? Sand. If it was to occupy the country we would let it hold elections.The elections are being taken care of by the UN. If we wanted the oil we would have taken over the country after the Gulf War we had more troops there then. Wake up pal.

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Well, are you really following the procedures? What good did it really do to people? Sociology, my friend is not economics.


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December 8, 2005 - 01:17 AM

Bush's act of war is egoism and not a humanistic feeling for the love of the people of Iraq.......the oil peak is soon, there was need for market of weapons they are manufacturing and how can a man bomb a market place with tonnes of bombs and thereafter claim to liberate the same people?

We can choose to creatively develop our societies by not loving so much our ownselves.

Walter, Rwanda


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December 8, 2005 - 03:23 AM

Originally posted by Jamesnz
Goarge bush went into iraq to finish of the war his father started ing 1990 and yes it is all about the oil and natural resourses they are a bunch of crooks


Why di you think he is a crook?Is there proof on this or did you get that by watching Rarenheit 911 or the media.


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December 8, 2005 - 12:28 PM

"The United States in Iraq -- should they be there?"

Quite frankly? No.

The US 'helping' Iraq? The way I see it, that's like getting the victim of a vicious beating, to punish the bully who gave the vicious beating. Do you think the victim is going to let that bully get away on easy street? Doubt it.
I don't see the victim giving the bully a fair punishment either...but then again, should they?

There's a lack of impartiality there that needs to be addressed.

And what does it look like from another country perspective? Well, I don't know about my country, but I know that to me it doesn't look like it's doing much good to anyone.

Today I watched something on tv about some of the families who have loved ones in the army in Iraq.

Why are they trying to 'take care' of another country when their own needs attention? Their families need them. Their community. Their state, nation and country. Whatever!

Let the American troops go back to their own country, back to their families.

Aaaargh. It's not right. They're trying to fix something that isn't broken. Nothing is broken! Something just isn't present, something is lost. And it's not coming back any time soon the way things are going...

Yeah. I don't think I've made any sense of what I've just typed...better to stop now.

- Rerenga


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December 8, 2005 - 12:31 PM

Goarge bush went into iraq to finish of the war his father started ing 1990 and yes it is all about the oil and natural resourses they are a bunch of crooks


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December 16, 2005 - 05:35 AM

Care to explain your view stevez? I'm interested to hear your perspective which seems to be coming from a different side to what has all been posted so far.

You think the US are doing something good? And Bush is being fair?

- Rerenga


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December 16, 2005 - 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Rerenga
Care to explain your view stevez? I'm interested to hear your perspective which seems to be coming from a different side to what has all been posted so far.

You think the US are doing something good? And Bush is being fair?

- Rerenga


The posters look at America as trying to take over the country,to take the oil.If we wanted that would we have not just stayed there after the Gulf War and taken over the country.If we wanted to kill the people don't you think we would have destroyed it all except the oil system.If we wanted to take the country why is the UN there to over look elections.Why are there elections,if we plan to take over.
America wants a free Iraq,not so much democratic one, but one were the people can live free and control the destiny of thier lives.Were free elections can take place and people have a say in goverment.
Iraq is a start in stabilizing the area.The Middle East is a very unstable area.The ductators and the monarchies are not god for people who want to live free.
We will see in 5-10 years if something good comes of this,it will take time.


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December 16, 2005 - 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by stevez
Ypu don't think it might have been to remove a tyrannical dictator from power.To stop people from being tortured and killed.To let people have freedom from his power. Besides the oil what other natural resourses does it have? Sand. If it was to occupy the country we would let it hold elections.The elections are being taken care of by the UN. If we wanted the oil we would have taken over the country after the Gulf War we had more troops there then. Wake up pal.

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Well, are you really following the procedures? What good did it really do to people? Sociology, my friend is not economics.




Things don't happen overnight.It took America almost 30 yers after it's revolution for it to start working


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Re: IRAQ
December 16, 2005 - 10:56 AM

Originally posted by stevez
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rerenga
[B]Care to explain your view stevez? I'm interested to hear your perspective which seems to be coming from a different side to what has all been posted so far.

You think the US are doing something good? And Bush is being fair?

- Rerenga


The posters look at America as trying to take over the country,to take the oil.If we wanted that would we have not just stayed there after the Gulf War and taken over the country.If we wanted to kill the people don't you think we would have destroyed it all except the oil system.If we wanted to take the country why is the UN there to over look elections.Why are there elections,if we plan to take over.
America wants a free Iraq,not so much democratic one, but one were the people can live free and control the destiny of thier lives.Were free elections can take place and people have a say in goverment.
Iraq is a start in stabilizing the area.The Middle East is a very unstable area.The ductators and the monarchies are not god for people who want to live free.
We will see in 5-10 years if something good comes of this,it will take time.[/B][/QUOTE]

The US government has a very long history of supporting dictatorships in the Middle East. It is just ironic to keep whining about democracy while at the same helping such dictatorships with iron and fire to crush and silence their people. Sorry but people in the Middle East are not that stupid to believe in the lies of your government.


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Re: IRAQ
December 16, 2005 - 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Palestinian
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stevez
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by Rerenga
[B]Care to explain your view stevez? I'm interested to hear your perspective which seems to be coming from a different side to what has all been posted so far.

You think the US are doing something good? And Bush is being fair?

- Rerenga


The posters look at America as trying to take over the country,to take the oil.If we wanted that would we have not just stayed there after the Gulf War and taken over the country.If we wanted to kill the people don't you think we would have destroyed it all except the oil system.If we wanted to take the country why is the UN there to over look elections.Why are there elections,if we plan to take over.
America wants a free Iraq,not so much democratic one, but one were the people can live free and control the destiny of thier lives.Were free elections can take place and people have a say in goverment.
Iraq is a start in stabilizing the area.The Middle East is a very unstable area.The ductators and the monarchies are not god for people who want to live free.
We will see in 5-10 years if something good comes of this,it will take time.[/B][/QUOTE]

The US government has a very long history of supporting dictatorships in the Middle East. It is just ironic to keep whining about democracy while at the same helping such dictatorships with iron and fire to crush and silence their people. Sorry but people in the Middle East are not that stupid to believe in the lies of your government.[/B][/QUOTE]

I guess that whining you hear is also your whining about Isreal.
And the palastinian goverment also has that long history of lies.Mostly at the peace talks,they seem to say one thing and the next minute people are getting blown up.


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