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What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
August 3, 2005 - 02:21 AM
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What gives people the right to judge any other individual, group, religion, culture, place or anything in particular except themselves?
Please give your point of view and reasons for it.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
August 4, 2005 - 01:02 AM
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MJ4Life,
please refrain from using that kind of verbal abuse,this is a respectful website where you can express your thoughts in a more adequate manner.
We, Muslims, consider that a believer shouldn't use bad words. Bad words like these aren't really adding anything other than showing how people like you basically either don't know anything or have a serious problem in understanding the difference between what Islam says, and what a small minority who pretends to be the followers of Islam does....if you wanna judge someone, judge Muslims NOT Islam. What you basically miss is that Islam is a life system, not just a religion: that's the basic difference distinguishing it from other faiths. Consequently, Islam can contain political ideologies, which means that Islamic ideology, like any other ideology (e.g. Capitalism, Marxism, Socialism, Secularism, Liberalism...etc) has extremes...but not necessarily representing its core values.
"The only religion" ??????????  that's really disappointing...
As long as I judge people, not religions/ideologies; I have the right to judge the so-called Christian Ku Klux Klan with their fire-cross ceremonies, the Christian Ugandan "Army of God", the Christian "Crusades", the Christian "Inquisitions" against the Muslims and Jews of Spain,....I have the right to condemn the so-called Jewish Haganah, Stirn, and Irgun gangs, .... I guess both of us condemn terrorism performed by the Contras in Guatemala, the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, the UNITA movement in Angola, the FARC in Colombia, the Red Khmers in cambodia, the Zapatistas in Mexico, the Maoist rebels in Nepal, the POLISARIO in the Western Sahara, the rebels in Liberia, Ivory Coast, Rwanda, Burundi, Sierra Leone, and Mozambique, added to the ETA movement in Spain, the Neo-Nazis in Germany, the Yakooza, the Mafia, and the IRA -not anymore-. I condemn too the state-lead genocide against Muslim minorities and/or Muslim movements in Thailand, Philippines, China, Nagorno-Karabah, Tajikistan,the Balkans (in the mid 90s), Transcaucasia,as well as the newly-arisen Islamophobia in Europe...of whom I think you are a big fan, sadly.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
August 4, 2005 - 06:19 AM
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thanks for responding.
i would also like to ask you whether you could help me rephrase this thread so that it would not be taken as offensive. i also didnt mean for this thread to undermine the islamic religion or any of its followers. this thread was also written for the purpose of a member of this website to understand that islam is not the reason behind the current terrorist bombings but it is those individuals who have taken i upon themselves to do so.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
August 4, 2005 - 06:28 AM
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I apologize to all those who think that this topic and the contents of this thread are abusive in any way. i will in the future try to phrase my question etc. in a more appropriate manner.
I also appreciate your reply to this thread.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
August 10, 2005 - 04:17 AM
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Nomaan,
The first person who responded to your thread must have some unspoken experiences with you or others that cloud his interpretation of your words, because as I read your first post and then moved to the second, I thought that person had responded on the wrong thread or something, because that response had nothing at all to do with your post. As it stands, I don't think there was anything offensive about your first post at all. If you were implying something that I could not perceive and the person who wrote the second post could perceive it, then that is a different matter.
I suppose the right to judge rests solely with God, but it is at least understandable if one judges others' culture, religion, group, individual, identity, behavior etc. once those things begin to encroach on another individual's mental and physical well-being. In such a case, judging is not productive - even counter-productive if you are talking about judging a group as opposed to an individual person - but "in a perfect world," no one person, culture or group would jeopardize the survival, lives and/or overall well-being of others either.
Moreover, once you go out into the world, or for many of us, even just after birth, when you are surrounded by hostile and judgmental people, you just judge other people, merely in attempts to convince yourself that you are better than they are and that you are not the worthless trash that those around you judged you as before you even knew how the world worked.
It's a vicious circle, on both an individual level, as well as a group level.
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Good Post!!!
September 2, 2005 - 04:19 AM
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i also ask myself the same question.....for example:
I come from an ABoriginal Background and a Vietnemese as well and i am very proud 2 be who i am but when some1 judges me for my heritage it's kinda hard to take that in when all i do is promote positive life style through Dance,Music,Art,self-expression....just recently our dance crew ~Freshly Squeezed Breakz Crew~ did performaces @ the Fringe Festival in Edmonton Alberta (My Home Town) and my friend that does The Aboriginal Hoopdancing that represnts celebration joined us to show how 2 diffrent cultures combined to make a stronger message on how Music,Dance,Culture,Self Expression has no color anybody can do it, And we still had ppl blurting out negative thoughts about our heritage.there's no need for me to mention them but we went out there 2 share our Aborginal Culture and HipHop Culture to show how beautiful our culture can be and how HipHop Culture isnt all about being a Gangster......
But we did have more fans that supported us on our message and many ppl were able 2 see our Aborginal Culture in a positive aspect so wha im sayin really is nobody has the right 2 label anyone, Just dont let others push ur button when the stereotypes come swingin
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
September 2, 2005 - 04:24 AM
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All my life i've been judged for being Half Aborginal And Half Vietnemese...i just dont let anyone get to me i love who iam where im from and thats that
i work @ my old school as a Dance instructor and music teacher and i LOVE it, Music and dance is what develops who i am everyone's just has to find their passion and stick with it
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
September 8, 2005 - 01:59 AM
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As long as a person takes accountability of his or her actions, words and any sort of action that he or she does, I say that pretty much settles that.
It's not what you say, usually, but HOW you say it that really hurts sometimes.
I'm of Malay/Chinese/Indian btw, and I think that this is a rather rethorical question. There's the we-them mentality, the usual ingroup differentiation and out-group homogenization, the old adage of we fear the unknown, and so forth. There are no definitive answers to what gives them right.
Since when do people give a hoot about rights when they bitch about others anyways? They simply felt like doing it, I suppose.
Envy, anger, resentment, grief, revenge. Human emotions. Perceived injustices. Oh, hell. Humans will never be utopian in nature, live with it.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
September 11, 2005 - 06:22 AM
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I don't think anyone has the right to judge another's religion, group, etc. unless they're also in that religion, group, etc. themselves. If you don't know anything about a person, than you can't judge them at all. Your judgement would not be truthful. On the other hand, if you were informed and knew a lot about the person, your judgement may be truthful. I guess the right to judge depends on your knowledge of the group, religion, person, etc. being judged.
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
September 11, 2005 - 10:17 AM
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i'm totally agree with you samsoon, i guess that we are not able to judge others unless in your deep inside, but not at big scale, that's because god only has the right to give the right and fair judgement on people, religions.. and so on , that's because he's the onlyone who knows the whole circumstances which led someone to take any decision or to follow certain relegion and so on. we have to focus on ourselves and judge ourselves and try to be better and let the others do or believe what they want to do.
all what we can do is to avoid those we don't like but no more...
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Re: What gives people the right to judge other people, religions, cultures and groups?
September 18, 2005 - 09:28 AM
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...hmmm...my first post ...well..
can you imagine the world ..the whole world ...beleiving in the same religion ..or speaking the same language ..or belonging to the same ..ethnic group??
why do we as humans feel the need to judge ?..why judge me cause Im not like you !!
why not admit that the reason I am who I am ...is the same reason that I am not who you are !!
do you honestly want me to be you ??
would that make you special or unique or different?
it wont..
why is being different associated with fear and hate and prejudice.!!
we are different ..thats true ...but thats what makes each of us special and . we all complete each other ..
the diversity of the human race is a blessing ...its a gift
when will we realize that ?
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