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S Woodside
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fonts too small
November 1, 2002 - 10:48 AM
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The fonts on the tig site are way to small. I'm squinting. I'm on Mac OS X using Chimera. They're too small in IE for Mac OS X as well.
Keep in mind this is a usability issue for people with poor eyesite (and I expect in parts of the world where eyeglasses are hard to find).
simon
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Fonts.... too small
November 2, 2002 - 01:55 AM
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Your point is very well taken..a point i tried to make months ago but it didn't seem too many people listened. I think if people don't want their postings read that must be why they are using such small fonts. I used to print small as a kid thinking it was so cool...but you know what: the teacher ignored my work and in the end I really didn't interact much with others. Which of course is the point of this site I would say: to interact with others in a meaningful way. My hats off to you for such an insightful message. I will also follow your postings with much interest.
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November 2, 2002 - 03:56 AM
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Most people running version of Iexplorer or Netscape can increase font size via the customised features in the options menu.
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Re: fonts too small
November 2, 2002 - 05:21 AM
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pred: well taken. I can do that in chimera/mozilla as well. however there are people who don't know about that feature, and as well, the site layout can take a hit in terms of getting messed up because the designers didn't count on the larger size.
I wonder, are they using CSS here? In that case it might be a pretty easy change.
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Re: fonts too small
November 2, 2002 - 08:01 AM
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yup, they're using CSS. A simple fix would be to change /includes/tig.css .normal style definition to up the font-size parameter. It's currently set to 8pt ...
Might also be necessary to change a bunch of other sizes as well, but probably a simple search/replace would do the trick.
I think 8pt is a bit small given that 12pt is considered the "normal" font size.
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font size
November 3, 2002 - 01:50 AM
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Okay, you got it. This is something that we have been procrastinating about for a long time 
It is now a profile option:
http://myprofile.takingitglobal.org/
Let me know what you think!
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Re: fonts too small
November 3, 2002 - 09:36 AM
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Cool, thanks :-)
I hope you don't mind if I nitpick a bit. some of the styles that you're using in the A tags (like .greenb, .fetitle) include a font-size element:
A.greenb
{
FONT-SIZE: 8pt;
COLOR: #228B22;
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;
}
that overrides the setting from the font class=normal style (since it's inside it gets precedence in the casacade). I believe but can't test that if you removed the font-size from these styles (.greenb etc) that all would be well. I looked at a few of your pages and you seem to pretty consistently have wrapped all of the A tags with FONT tags that set the size with class=normal.
I can't test it because I can't get the user style sheet work in my browser, sorry.
simon
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good idea
November 3, 2002 - 09:56 AM
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we need to do a complete CSS file cleanup before we do that though -- we want to keep the small fonts in the homepage modules the way they are, because that's the only way we can squeeze a meaningful bit of information into those small spaces (latest updates, events, discussions, and articles)
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Ha Thi Lan Anh
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Re: fonts too small
November 4, 2002 - 03:47 AM
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is there anyway to re read tig msg? just got a tig msg but it did not appear yet <cuz> and i lost the unread msg..
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Re: fonts too small
November 4, 2002 - 07:27 AM
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yep . . .
All you have to do is open up the TIG messenger and click the 'message history' link.
enjoy.
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Re: fonts too small
November 4, 2002 - 12:42 PM
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I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing. When I select a large size, some things stay tiny. It looks odd to have tiny links and headlines amidst much larger (my preference) "normal" text. Links and headlines should grow to stay proportional to the normal text size. Otherwise you've made the "normal" text accessible but not the headlines and links.
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Updates page
November 5, 2002 - 12:23 PM
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I just wanted to make a wee suggestion that there should be a button on every updates page that takes you back to the home page. I find myself stuck at update pages alot and I go to hit back on my browser and end up all over the place. I think it would just tidy the continuity up a bit. Other than that ..nice work....
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