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It's not about religion vs. religion
May 27, 2005 - 01:52 AM
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Could someone help me in Answering if religions told us to deal bad with each other?
Why US soldiers Kick the quran in qwantanamo by shoes?
I dont think its nice or good but i hope if every one refuse thats?
We teach in our religion to respect other religion..thats true muslim must do it any where.
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
May 27, 2005 - 02:07 AM
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you are of course right, and it is regretable and inexcusable.
I hope the investigations are independant, quick, and go as high up as neciassary to find the truth of the matter.
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
June 19, 2005 - 01:21 AM
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It's psychological. Universally in most liberal-democratic countries, law does allow the interrogators to use 'average reasonable means' to 'break' the prisoners so that they'll reveal 'crucial information concerning them Al-Qaeda or like minded terrorists' especially since the wake of 9/11.
They went too far with the Quran though. I just hope nobody starts being an idiot by flushing the Bible in the toilet though out of spite. The protestors have paid enough for it as it is in Afghanistan.
There are effors being made by the US to conduct investigations to placate or not further increase the resentment towards them by those in the Middle East and Muslims everywhere.
Well, *shrugs* we have bad apples within systems everywhere. All of us are humans after all, but I won't lie. I am upset.
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Salam/peace
June 19, 2005 - 04:24 AM
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I think you are right...if you want some of the truth you can see fahrnhight movies for michal more you will have near look.
peace
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
June 19, 2005 - 10:39 AM
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It's not about religion vs. religion
Hi mrfarook! The Guantanamo incidents are not about Christians vs. Muslims nor Americans vs. Muslims. It's about war. This is not the first time something like this has happened, it just happens that in the modern age of human rights protection, more and more crimes against humanity are being documented and people are more eager to look into human rights that's why this issue seems to have been blown into proportion.
The alleged desecration of the Quran is wrong but we have to consider the psychological impact of the 9/11 on Americans. From the Fahrenheit 9/11 movie, it could be possible that Bush and his allies manipulated events but we can't just put the blame on every American.
The psychology of war is one that is very disturbing; people do things that they wouldn't normally do outside the atmosphere of war. We look at it as horrifying because we are not there in that atmosphere. Remember that humans have animal instincts and these surface when the need to protect one's self is inevitable.
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HI
June 20, 2005 - 08:20 AM
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Dear ZHAC,
First of all i hope thats you are good..
Now i knew thats every human need to protect himself,,,also if we get back in the history we will find to many stories...but me as a muslim i believe in jesus and ibraheem and yaqoob and musa,,all the prophits also i respect all religions and ideas.
From here human also have human part can not deal with jungle land laws,,,coz the hate will react hate,,kill will react kill,so.....
What i want to say let us respect each other and live in peace real peace as sisters and brothers.
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War knows no religion...!
June 20, 2005 - 10:06 AM
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Well, to me, war knows no religion, no humanity. It knows only blood and devastation and suffering for the masses. A war, whether done in the name of religion or humanity, is never a solution rather it is a reason behind new issues. And it is not the people or religions that are in conflict, it is the politics and the race for power that is driving everything the way it is going. The US war on Iraq is no crusade, neither it is for humanity.
What has happened in Guantanamo is nothing else but a continuation of war. To my knowledge, this place is known to be controlled by the military rather than the government, so such an action need not be considered as the one representative of a country’s overall viewpoint towards a religion. I strongly believe that a good number of Americans would not deem what has happened as appropriate by any means, irrespective of their individual religion. The worst, however, is that the innocent people could suffer as a consequence of such an act. May the almighty help us all!
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Nice
June 20, 2005 - 10:32 AM
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Am with you , but if i want to be specific now policy is act as the cinma if you want you can watching some movies and know what will happen.really try
Its working in too many films.
Peace
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
July 12, 2005 - 07:41 AM
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The desecration of the Qur'an in Guantanamo had unequivocally caused a deep frustration and anti-american sentiments in the Middle East, and I see it in Egypt more than you could imagine...the timing itself was shocking...it's -AS IF- the US soldiers who committed that xenophobic act, wanted to tell the Muslims: You can't do anything about our desecration of the Qur'an!
I really have hard time to understand what's the logic behind humiliating a book in order to get some -crucial information- from a prisoner...
I think it's too different too between non-state actors doing terrorist attacks, and between official state officers and soldiers, with US coats of arms doing such atrocious and vicious acts...I'm still worried
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
August 5, 2005 - 02:37 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChibiMelody
[Well, *shrugs* we have bad apples within systems everywhere.
I agree with ChibiMelody. I'm an American and I must say I am upset about Guantanomo and Abu Ghraib because of the human rights abuses and because it casts a bad light on all Americans. However, I must stress, do not think that this represents all of us. Most are outraged by this in the US. There are bad apples in every country. In Pakistan, Christians are put to death under Blasphemy Law 295c, which says that any one can be put to the death if they blasphemy Muhhamad. Egypt still allows torture in prisons. China tortures many Christians each year and burns their churches. The world does not focus enough on these issues. I realize that the US is a world power, but we need to look at other places too. Especially places, such as Pakistan and China, where these acts are government sanctioned.
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Re: It's not about religion vs. religion
August 14, 2005 - 04:11 AM
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And don't forget that MANY of the people prone to join the army are these people who have had little or virtually no education. They have no future in where they are so the next best thing to do is join the army. They have absolutely no people skills. To them, the Quran is just a book that has *mysterious* power over a certain group of people and they can use it against them. They are all quite illiterate. The 'boot-camp' treatment at the army only adds to that.
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August 14, 2005 - 05:34 AM
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the Quran is just a book that has *mysterious* power over a certain group of people and they can use it against them. They are all quite illiterate. The 'boot-camp' treatment at the army only adds to that
Dear
I think you dont know the quran well,the quran have all the knowledge,also the quran didnt say to kill or to hate..quran build in love and brothers.
The first word in quran is "READ" so its the educations!!
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