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Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
May 4, 2005 - 09:35 AM
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Third World citizens should not wait on foreigners to solve their problems. The solution starts with you. No one understands your problems better than yourself.
MDGs are a good aspiration but how many more MDGs will developing nations wait for to realise that the problem lies with them and not with the MDGs. Misgovernment, 'lutocracy' and 'forced' poverty will continue to strangle them if they dont wake up and style up.
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MDGs just guidelines
May 10, 2005 - 07:36 AM
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There are systemic reforms needed for reforming the finance system with global adoption of faith based measures.Indeed, there is a need to be more consistent in communicating on the need for a unified faith based perspective where there is a call for reforming the finance system, transofmring leisure use pattern, prevention and adultery and homosexuality, promotion of pious behavior,promotion of culture of prayer, promotion of deterrent punishement for corrupt deeds.
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
May 10, 2005 - 08:44 AM
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As a member of the Young MDG team(http://preview.thinkquest.org/04oct/01865/index.htm), I must agree that you are both correct ... however the MDGs is nto to say that developing countries are indentifying our problems for us. Let us remember that the MDGs is a UNitied Nations effort to help in raising development level in many countries across the world. I am sure that all our governments know about the problems as they are not blind but the situation which exist no especially in the third world countries cannot be tackeled by ourselves as a result of globalisation we need help from the bigger economies and the MDG is all about that. It is also about giving developing countries an opportunity to join an online community and communicate with each other share ther views and ideas on how to achive all 8 goals.
We should also make the MDGs our business as we must all join this international effort to better our countriees.
Check out the site http://preview.thinkquest.org/04oct/01865/index.htm
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Millenium trap
May 12, 2005 - 10:31 AM
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The goals set by the MDGs are real and should be targetted... by every society, by every state. But I don't agree with the idea that Developed countries will help developing countries into materialing them. Developing countries should forget about financial help. In fact, there are never been financial helps from developed countries to developing countries. We had financial business. That,s why we have so huge debts to pay back. On the other hand officials and leaders of developing countries are living in a so opulence that it does not make sense to lend money to us. B
MDGs should be materialised by ever country and it,s the responsibility of every country to treat well its citize4ns and to rise the standard of life. It's a matter of priority and responsibility.
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MDGs and developing nations
May 20, 2005 - 01:16 AM
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I ardently support MDGs and agree that its a noble cause but I still affirm that the developing nations possess the key to their progress. They should not burden their citizens as well as the developed world while they have abundant yet unexploited resources. They should strive to stem poor leadership and increase good economic governance. The African nation of Botswana and the Asian Tiger economies proves me right. The problem lies with them. Perpetual consessional loans-"AID"- will never solve their poverty problems.
The fact that you are a poor nation is not a ticket to 'beggerhood'. Let them work and develop their resources, stem looting of public funds, etc.
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MDGs,
May 20, 2005 - 01:55 AM
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I believe that citizens of the developing nations in diaspora can do a lot in terms of bringing development to their villages and towns. Rather than hide in cocoons of illusionary success they should do a lot. Here, I would include African Americans most of who have now disowned and discarded Africa.
Let MDGs not be a poor country-rich country scenario but rather an ongoing process even after the 2015 deadline. People will not suddenly be transformed overnight into comfort by 2015. Concerted efforts to bring positive change are needed from the diaspora too.
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
May 22, 2005 - 06:09 AM
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I understand what you are syaing, we need to realise that the UN knows that the MDGS is not an overnight procress but 2015 is a guide to say that we have achieved that much. If you read the targets you realise that it is not to say that all things will be eliminated at once but to say that we should achieve that much and after move forward. This is what we need a guide. I do agree that many countries have unexploited resources but do these countries have the resources to undertake using these resoucres making them from raw material into finished goods.
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Look at it this way:-)
May 27, 2005 - 07:55 AM
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The issue is not the means to use in exploiting the resources, but the formulation of economic policies , which ensure that anybody committing themselves to invest in the said countries and exploit these resources does so with the aim of fully processing them into finished products.
There is no use allowing an investor to exploit your resources at a pittance, export them for full processing in their own countries then come back to sell the same goods to you at prices more than five times their extraction cost in your country. The Asian Tiger Economies such as China, Vietnam and South Korea discovered that and are now heading somewhere.
India too discovered that and is now making progress in agriculture, general research, medicine, and even electronics. Why cant other Developing countries do the same? Rhetorics and perpetual complaints at the WTO are not enough. Let them put into place favourable investing policies in their countries maybe then they will be able to see the direction of their resource utilisation bearing fruit.
Check out an article on the same via the hyperlink below.
http://www.euroafricacentral.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=123&Itemid=&phpshop=f787caaae48319567fc593f58f15afec
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What about an idealistic approach
May 27, 2005 - 09:28 AM
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Basically every country has already formulated economic policies, and for years developing nation's governments have invested both quality and quantity time to formulate workable economic policies to enable them stabilize the standards.
To quote,
"The Asian Tiger Economies such as China, Vietnam and South Korea discovered that and are now heading somewhere. India too discovered that and is now making progress in agriculture, general research, medicine, and even electronics"
The point will be, how did they discover this? The implementation of these policies in a nation that has cultivated poverty and corruption is not easy. This has to be recognised and considered before comparisons are made to other nationals. Therefore, this calls for grassroot action, a change that will start by the citizens recognizing the need and the leaders conceiving the urgency hence a beggining.
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
May 28, 2005 - 03:56 AM
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The problem with MDGs is not if they are set up by Developped countries or not, it is wether they are being effectively implemented or not!
I don't think that the target of "eradicating pauverty" could be tackeled by US (developping countries) only, it is now a matter of cooperation, of learing from each other and adpating successful solutions and best practices to our own needs and specificities...
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May 30, 2005 - 12:03 PM
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Rimnour,
I agree with you on the concept of sharing information and learning from each other. The fact is we should be learning from countries, which were in a similar situation as us and trying to adopt and modify their success policies to suit our nations. However, there it is ill advised to try to adopt a developed countries policies as the developed-developing dichotomy clealy have dissimilar socioeconomic interests. You will struggle to adapt policies similar to a developed country, whose agenda is apparently targeting protectionism while you are looking for markets for your products. In such a case you will be losing and losing good.
Bosibori,
While you clearly touched on the issue of the cultivation of corruption and poverty, its quite a naked fact that the real propagators of corruption are indeed the citizens of a country. Its the same people who also have the capacity and mandate to change the socially decadent state of affairs. Comparisons are indeed vogue. How will you know your progress if you dont look at an individual who was in a similar situation sometime back but managed to get out of the rut? It is in this light that the Asian Tigers and India come to focus. As a matter of fact, a TIG member so inspired by the Malaysian success story started a project on "centraliztion and decentralization" concept of industries. Check out www.cdbn.org
The buck then comes back to your court. On the Vietnam, I actually meant Taiwan. And by the way, policies are supposed to be formulated to fit into a country's development aspirations unlike most developing nations whose policy frameworks are geared towards pleasing the so-called donors. When will the developing nations wake up and realise that this is just a business relationship and has very little to do with dvelopment. Maybe the Tony Blair attempt to increase concessional loans to Africa would materialise. But then the big question is, how much would it be? Talking and doing are two different things.
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
July 14, 2005 - 10:38 AM
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I think the MDG's is definitely not the solution to all the problems developing countries face. People sometimes put to much importance on the MDG’s; these are just a set of goals that will perhaps help reach the end of all our problems. But it would be exaggerated to say they are the solution to everything. Example; many times I hear people confused saying the MDG's will decrease poverty by 50%. No ladies and gentlemen, the MDG's is only going to decrease EXTREME poverty by 50%, I repeat EXTREME poverty. Terms should not be used in derogatory way. That being said if the MDG's are completed the other half of people classified as being extremely poor will stay that way, so will people classified as being poor. And I honestly don't think the numbers will drop, let's not even talk about HIV aids and other problems, I’ll be here all day.
Therefore Africans and I we need to step up and do much more than we are. We cannot expect the nations that separated and conquered us, the ones that enslaved us, the ones that are the reason we are in debt, to solve all our problems. We should simply not expect that type of help, proof at the G8 meeting; many of the demands were not met. For one of the demands was that 60 countries be forgiven for their debts entirely, and only 18 of those 60 were on the safe side, and even than most of those countries have most of their biggest companies privatized, and all have enormous amount of resources in trade going to developed countries in exchange for almost nothing. Just to name a few problems. So please people let's not even argue on the question of whether the MDG's is enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty. The obvious answer is no, no, and no.
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
July 15, 2005 - 12:17 PM
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I personally think that the MDG's are an inportant, and necessary step, to reducing poverty wordwide. In reality, the MDG's is just a document that outlines a way of reducing worldwide poverty. BUT, if countries choose to follow it, the MDG's ARE a powerful force in reducing world poverty. And after all, we have to start somewhere dont we? 
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Re: Are MDGs enough in reducing Developing Nation's poverty?
September 10, 2005 - 12:22 PM
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MDG is a wellcome development on a closer look att the content but i must that studies existed long before the MDG.I strongly belive that each person will solve his problem rightly as dependency on the developed region who looking eor the expansion of the worlds market to keep on the rise will not help.Indeed, recent development have shown the other side of the coin as USA still have people bellow the poverty line,high motality rate and Katrina debacle.
Equally. Amb.Bolton reduction of aid to short term approach opens a lot of hipocresy.I t is time to move on with strong convintion in our abilities.
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Development
October 16, 2005 - 09:40 AM
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MDGs are no doubt important. You cannot dismiss them wholesale. The main issue is that the developing world citizens themselves should put into place mechanisms, which will enable the success of the Goals. Otherwise, with rampant social and economic malpractices such as the adoption of irrelevant policies, even their own struggles for development will be an exercise in futility.
BonoFan
I concur with you though I wish to reiterate that it is the the developing world people themselves who can spur their growth and development. THey are the key to the success of the Goals. Maybe its even time the developing world especially Africa adopted its own version of the Marshall Plan. Or what do you think?
Over-reliance on the supply of loans while there are plenty of unexploited resources will not help the developing world. What we need are favorable policies on such crucial areas as investment, rural community and urban development, education and the like. One cannot tell the world that a person whose life has been spent in a plush area will understand the problem of the people on the ground. Its the very people who know their problems and thus can also know how to solve them.
Fredrichs
It is time we people in the developing world and especially Africa found ways of healing the festering wounds in our midst. It is true that we cannot do this alone without the advice of those who have been in a similar situation but are now considered developed. What we should do is to exercise prudent resource management and the rest will follow. Someone once said that true elegance is in the mind. Once you have that the rest will follow. I think this is what the developing world is in dire need of. Good policy advocates, good policy makers, good policy implementors are the spices we need to make this socio-economic food tastier. Let us work for the betterment of our world. Charity begins at home. I was inspired by Nelson Mandela and his ideals which many of us can learn from. He is truely blessed.
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