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anpsmn
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Muslim girls
April 23, 2005 - 11:06 AM
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Why are muslim girls(minors) married off early?
And do they get the choice of selecting their husbands?
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Traditions .... test them!
April 24, 2005 - 04:52 AM
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Like many other ideas, religeous traditions ought be tested in light of 'the signs of our times'. those people thought in their time and space, they directed in their time and space and it was revealed to them in their time and space.
I am not answering to what the post requires because i am not informed about the subject. But it has something to do with traditions and i thought i would say something about tradition.
that we should find a background in tradition, be rooted in tradition but not to be held back by tradition. we need to grow and develop. just as there are developments in the world of machines or technology, it means that people are thinking seriously. so must we also think seriously about social constructs e.g having to cover ones face so that men are not disturbed!.
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Re: Muslim girls
April 26, 2005 - 01:30 AM
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http://www.ishipress.com/indiamar.htm
HINDU CHILD MARRIAGE IN INDIA
Child Marriages, Though Illegal, Persist in India
# Related Article Once Widowed in India, Twice Scorned (March 29)
By JOHN F. BURNS
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Re: Muslim girls
April 26, 2005 - 03:33 AM
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I havent seen anyone answering your question so allow me.
Its not a rule in Islam to marry off girls at early age though some think its preferable but its not a rule.
In a city like Alexandria most people marry when they feel they are ready but in some rural areas especially in villages they marry off girls early around 16 17 its has to do more with their tradtion than of religious reasons.
A very common misconception that women are forced NOT to choose their husbands well its NOT True. Women have the right to choose whoever they wants to then the two families meet and see if the couple could be suitable or not.
Even if her family suggests a husband for her she has the right & choice to agree or disagree.
Hope i've made my point clear.
i'll be glad to answer any more questions.
Romaica
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Interesting article - Related
April 26, 2005 - 03:59 AM
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Western Teenage Girl - Why do I wear Hijab?
Published in Toronto Star Young People’s Press
An insightful and personal account of why a Western teenage girl would reject the 'wonders' of fashion, and want to cover herself in the hijab (veil).
I probably do not fit into the preconceived notion of a “rebel”. I have no visible tattoos and minimal piercing. I do not possess a leather jacket. In fact, when most people look at me, their first thought usually is something along the lines of “oppressed female”. The brave individuals who have mustered the courage to ask me about the way I dress usually have questions like: “Do your parents make you wear that?” or “Don’t you find that really unfair?”
A while back, a couple of girls in Montreal were kicked out of school for dressing like I do. It seems strange that a little piece of cloth would make for such a controversy. Perhaps the fear is that I am harboring an Uzi machine gun underneath it! Of course, the issue at hand is more than a mere piece of cloth. I am a Muslim woman who, like millions of other Muslim women across the globe, chooses to wear a hijab. And the concept of the hijab, contrary to popular opinion, is actually one of the most fundamental aspects of female empowerment. When I cover myself, I make it virtually impossible for people to judge me according to the way I look. I cannot be categorized because of my attractiveness or lack thereof. Compare this to life in today’s society: We are constantly sizing one another up on the basis of our clothing, jewelry, hair and makeup. What kind of depth can there be in a world like this?
Yes, I have a body, a physical manifestation upon this Earth. But it is the vessel of an intelligent mind and a strong spirit. It is not for the beholder to leer at or to use in advertisements to sell everything from beer to cars. Because of the superficiality of the world in which we live, external appearances are so stressed that the value of the individual counts for almost nothing. It is a myth that women in today’s society are liberated. What kind of freedom can there be when a woman cannot walk down the street without every aspect of her physical self being “checked out”? When I wear the hijab I feel safe from all of this. I can rest assured that no one is looking at me and making assumptions about my character from the length of my skirt. There is a barrier between me and those who would exploit me.
I am first and foremost a human being, one of the saddest truths of our time is the question of the beauty myth and female self-image. Reading popular teenage magazines, you can instantly find out what kind of body image is “in” or “out” . And if you have the “wrong” body type, well, then, you’re just going to change it, aren’t you? After all, there is no way you can be overweight and still be beautiful. Look at any advertisement. Is a woman being used to sell the product? How old is she? How attractive is she? What is she wearing? More often than not, that woman will be no older than her early 20s, taller, slimmer, and more attractive than average, and dressed in skimpy clothing. Why do we allow ourselves to be manipulated like this? Whether the 90s woman wishes to believe it or not, she is being forced into a mould. She is being coerced into selling herself, into compromising herself. This is why we have 13-year-old girls sticking their fingers down their throats to vomit and overweight adolescents hanging themselves.
When people ask me if I feel oppressed, I can honestly say no. I made this decision of my own free will. I like the fact that I am taking control of the way other people perceive me. I enjoy the fact that I don’t give anyone anything to look at and that I have released myself from the bondage of the swinging pendulum of the fashion industry and other institutions that exploit females. My body is my own business. Nobody can tell me how I should look or whether or not I am beautiful. I know that there is more to me than that. I am also able to say no comfortably when people ask me if I feel as if my sexuality is being repressed. I have taken control of my sexuality. I am thankful I will never have to suffer the fate of trying to lose / gain weight or trying to find the exact lipstick shade that will go with my skin color. I have made choices about what my priorities are and these are not among them.
So next time you see me, don’t look at me sympathetically. I am not under duress or a male-worshiping female captive from those barbarous Arab deserts. I’ve been liberated
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Re: Muslim girls
April 26, 2005 - 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Romaica
I havent seen anyone answering your question so allow me.
Its not a rule in Islam to marry off girls at early age though some think its preferable but its not a rule.
A very common misconception that women are forced NOT to choose their husbands well its NOT True. Women have the right to choose whoever they wants to then the two families meet and see if the couple could be suitable or not.
Even if her family suggests a husband for her she has the right & choice to agree or disagree.
Hope i've made my point clear.
i'll be glad to answer any more questions.
Romaica
I want to add something to this. This "tradition" is not even limited to females. The parents of a close friend of mine (a man, not a woman) want him to marry his cousin. He wants to marry someone else who his parents do not know about. Although he does not have to marry who his parents want him to, and he won't, he will not be telling his parents when he marries his true fiancée until long after it is done and he is far away.
He has explained that it is about tradition and it has nothing to do with the Islamic religion.
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Re: Muslim girls
April 27, 2005 - 01:35 AM
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I guess that there was already a clarification on the topic of Muslim girls married off young by 'Romaica.' So I don't have much to say, am glad that this question was proposed and that it was answered for them and to others whom feel the same way. Also the issue on forced marriage came up. Forced marriage is absolutely prohibited in Islam. It has stated that a woman/man should marry whom ever they wish. And if parents force their children to marry someone they do not wish to marry, we believe that there will be a severe torment awaiting them on the Day of Judgment.
Oh and one more thing, If there is a rule, tradition, or a certain practice that is practiced by 'Muslim' people, that doesn’t necessarily mean that is it part of Islam. If there are any concerns or questions, feel free to ask. Always willing to be of help. Take care
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need more answers from u
April 27, 2005 - 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Romaica
I havent seen anyone answering your question so allow me.
Its not a rule in Islam to marry off girls at early age though some think its preferable but its not a rule.
In a city like Alexandria most people marry when they feel they are ready but in some rural areas especially in villages they marry off girls early around 16 17 its has to do more with their tradtion than of religious reasons.
A very common misconception that women are forced NOT to choose their husbands well its NOT True. Women have the right to choose whoever they wants to then the two families meet and see if the couple could be suitable or not.
Even if her family suggests a husband for her she has the right & choice to agree or disagree.
Hope i've made my point clear.
i'll be glad to answer any more questions.
Romaica
hi there,
Even i had this misconception that they were forced to marry , by their parents.
u said it has to do with their tradition,could u elaborate it?
And do u think that these girls are mentally prepared for a married life?
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April 27, 2005 - 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by mttamimi
Western Teenage Girl - Why do I wear Hijab?
Published in Toronto Star Young People’s Press
i will always support a woman wearing a Hijab,as long as she wants to wear it.But a woman should not be forced to wear it.
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Interesting article - Related
April 27, 2005 - 12:16 PM
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So next time you see me, don’t look at me sympathetically. I am not under duress or a male-worshiping female captive from those barbarous Arab deserts. I’ve been liberated
hey i want to thank u 4 what u wrote bcoz they really think that muslim girl wearing hijab(veil) was forced to it BUT REALLY WE ARE NOT , and i think there's nothing left to say after what u said 
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Re: Muslim girls
April 28, 2005 - 05:56 AM
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Im glad that everyone is taking part in speaking out what they think.
Thanks for the post "mttamimi" its well said & so true about Female Muslims that totally contradicts most ideas the West have about Islam & Women. They never knew that Islam liberated women & gave honor ,value & respect back to women.
Anyway "anp" u were asking about tradition well some ppl who live in villages believe that its better to marry girls early beause they think that
1. protect and Save her from the temptation.
2. She can bore him many children who will help him on their land.
And other reasons that i may not be familiar with,its just like any other traditon practiced all over the world like marrying yr cousin which many countries still do.
Islam ,like any other religion, promotes choice.
You know the pros and cons of the action & the choice is for you to make.
Romaica
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Re: Muslim girls
April 29, 2005 - 03:55 AM
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There is a long way for you to walk and lots of things to do - my dear moslim women.
All that, what is currently happening to the so called "western" women awaits you surely as well. It is a part of transcendence through times. However it does not awaits you, but your grandchildren.
First of all: Arab people have ONLY ONE RELIGION to choose from. IF there was a FREE SELECTION OF RELIGION ... we might see other picture.
It would be great to enable religious freedom in arab world. MONOPOLISTIC GRASPING sucks. I, personally have clear and undoubtfull wish to spread my religion to the interested islamic public. If i get a chance to do just that i will use it ASAP. It is fair, needed and just to do so.
Ave Futuria: Freedom ! Equality ! Progress !
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Re: Muslim girls
April 29, 2005 - 07:17 AM
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HEY this 4 Katulus and those who think the same
about islam :
I was really hurt to know that this is what u think about islam as a muslim girl .I know that there are alot of muslim men who treats muslim women badly but it's not bcoz islam said to treat women badly .I mean it has absolutely nothing to do with islam as a religion it's bcoz they are sick or bcoz of bad traditions to tell u the truth islam has given women rights no one can imagine really! and i want to ask u sth if a christian man hits his wife is it bcoz christianity asks him to do so !!! and Katulus do u know that there are alot of christians in the arabian world ...and we know all about the other religions and what they talk about. One of my best friend is a christian. Why do u think that muslim women don't know anything of the world around them or isolated and that they are helpless . BUT WE ARE NOT and the most thing i'm proud about is being A MUSLIM WOMAN
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...running out of hands
April 29, 2005 - 11:27 AM
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Islam , like other religions is running out of hands, the pure islam is good, like christianity,budhism,etc. there are some members tho, who make their religion look bad, and they stand out even more, so it's even worse, i think the tradition they have somewhere has got nothing to do with islam, i know that in islam the women should be treated good, and if all the men would follow the rule of islam, it would be fairer towards women, katulus, what i think should be changed in that part of the world is tradition. it is true tho there should be a chance to choose your religion as well. well i think that the women whose men follow islam well, are treated well, and have equal chances.
peace
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Above our duty, right and way
April 30, 2005 - 03:13 AM
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Beyond all else is what our duty and right and way are aimed at. Human acts aim at auto-perfection. Towards being the dignified self. if our means to our dignified self, if our duty, our right and our way are leading to any other than dignified selves or happy selves, there is need for re-considering.
All human actions should be aimed at auto-perfection and the ultimate auto-perfection is a state of pure happiness, harmony and wonder. Anything that denies us of life or that leads to destruction of selves should be abhorred, i think.
Dis-comfort and force should be checked by human beings by all means.
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