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I read an article which got me thinking
April 21, 2005 - 12:09 PM

why do men rape?

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Mis-understanding!
April 21, 2005 - 03:29 AM

Some cultures have it that when a girl says 'no', she actually means 'yes'. sometimes it is the case but sometimes people mis-judge and do not put everything into perspective.
Some do it because of psychological problems which may arise as a result of Loneliness, depression, drug abuse or having been abused in one way or another.

some do it because of the circumstances they find themselves in e.g alone with the one he admires in a dark lane. in such like case the irrational self may over-power the rational self; this is likely because not all people are strong enough in the face of such like tempting moments.

some men also blame it some behaviour by women. they entice and tease men and when moved, they find it hard to stop themselves.
n/b- although women raping men is not a common phenomenon but we should not give it a deaf ear for it is a reality with us!


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 10, 2005 - 03:19 AM

enat, when you say that men are naturally sexually dominant and aggresive and that rape is an inevitable result of men's sexual natures, you are basically saying that men should not be blamed if they rape women.

Do you realize what that means? Rape to you then, cannot be a crime. I don't know if you understand the consequences of believing that for yourself and for promoting this opinion to others...that worries me.

People have desires not only sexual and if we are thinking, feeling, human beings we understand what is wrong and what isn't. Forcing yourself on someone who doesn't want you to is one of the most traumatic violations. The perpetrator knows this, and should not be excused because he is male. This thinking is offensive to men and women every where.


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 10, 2005 - 04:56 AM

I am sorry but I believe the question should have been:

"Why do SOME men rape"?

You make it sound as if all men rape.

Personally I think some rape because they want to fulfill their sexual desires with women usng the wrong methods, and feel they have the physical strength that most women lack to do it.


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why do men rape?
May 10, 2005 - 05:40 AM

because men believe they have the right to control and to punish women who do not obey their rules of behaviour,men are naturally sexually dominant and aggressive,also rape is an inevitable result of men’s sexual natures.


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 10, 2005 - 07:38 AM

It is a complicated issue - I imagine every case is different - but I think it is men who are either just animals and completely nuts or juiced on their own testosterone - which you get in frat parties etc alot.

Sometimes there is a basic lack of communication as to what the girl might want

but most of the time - like any bully - it is a man who feels small all the time - maybe he gets no respect from work etc.

Maybe he is just chemically imbalanced and feels like a loser all the time -

So by aggressively dominating someone smaller then himself he gets to feel like a big man.

I think this is why bullying occurs in many forms.


But then there are also just perverts - recently this 70 year old man raped and murdered a 9 year old girl in like Kentucky - he buried her alove when he was done with her.

I am not even going to attempt to guess what was going through this lunatics mind - he is the reason I agree with the death penalty


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 11, 2005 - 01:27 AM

Men has no excuses under any conditions for rape, it is just an animal action and even animals dont do it.
It is just an insane action.


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 11, 2005 - 03:23 AM

I agree with what Palestinian said " why do SOME men rape?"
We never can put our finger on this kind of behaviour its different from one person to another.
What Luke said is true but thats just one reason.
Maybe this person has a childhood trauma, his mum abused him,or was having an affair & the boy loved his dad so he sees all women as unfaithful people that should be punished.
Still this is another reason not a main one.
I think we'll never know the main reason because there isnt one.
However i believe that ppl who do this action should be severly punished bec he violated a right thats not his.
May God protect us from such people.


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why do SOME men rape
May 11, 2005 - 05:49 AM

i agree with all those who said men rape to fulfill their sexual desire,to drench their frustration with daily life on someone who is physically weaker than him.otherwise why would a person rape a months old baby??
but one question regarding the sexual desire of men...does a person carry his sexual desire all the time so that whenever he finds victim he'll rape her?
something in the looks of the to-be-victim arouses such kind of feelings like if she is very pretty or she shows off TOO much..more than required.and if there is a combination of both men would find it hard to resist!i am not advocating rape but this is a fact which must be considered.this is not a conservative thinking but practical.
last of all i must say sorry to all those who feel hurt by my points but after all those are my feelings!!


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May 11, 2005 - 06:32 AM

cgudz i was trying to answer why do men rape? i didn't say it's not a crime, it is a crime against humanity,i know thati think every one know that,,,but trace didn't ask whether it is a crime or not--------


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why do SOME men rape
May 11, 2005 - 07:03 AM

Originally posted by chandraprakash
but one question regarding the sexual desire of men...does a person carry his sexual desire all the time so that whenever he finds victim he'll rape her?
something in the looks of the to-be-victim arouses such kind of feelings like if she is very pretty or she shows off TOO much..more than required.and if there is a combination of both men would find it hard to resist!


By this logic, it seems even a "pretty" girl who covers herself up will sexually arouse a male so extremely that he will have to rape her, thus, it is the destiny of a "beautiful" girl to be repeatedly raped her whole life until old age takes its toll on her appearance - I don't think that line of reasoning needs to be pursued further.

On a more logical note, I don't agree with this reasoning. God gave man (and woman) a will, a heart and a mind and the capacity of mind over matter. God gave man a conscience and a soul. Men make choices.

It is a universally known fact that men are exceedingly weak when it comes to sex and insightful or perceptive people can see that women, often shamelessly, use sex/sexuality to exert power over men, or to manipulate. Decent men, as well as not so decent ones, fall "victim" to this power, because they are weak for sex. Yet, as a man can say no to the sexual advances and manipulation attempts of an unscrupulous woman, he can refrain from physical abuse of any kind against a woman as well.

The two examples may appear to bear no similarities, however, I believe they are two sides of the same coin; there is no respect between the sexes - each knows the other's weakness and uses it against the other.


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 12, 2005 - 03:41 AM

Human race (yes, men included) is unique in one way: It has a working mind to be self-aware. And in most cases mind is "stronger" than animalistic drive given to us by birth. Rape is a case when the latter takes over the first.

Rape is a severe breach of individuals rights as such. It is a crime against a person and a humanity as whole.

Prevention ?

People will have to be told repeatedly to act against such things and, especially men that women are physically weaker and must be respected as equal to men in living and deciding.... then maybe things would look out better.

Ave Futuria


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 13, 2005 - 01:49 AM

//By this logic, it seems even a "pretty" girl who covers herself up will sexually arouse a male so extremely that he will have to rape her, thus, it is the destiny of a "beautiful" girl to be repeatedly raped her whole life until old age takes its toll on her appearance - I don't think that line of reasoning needs to be pursued further.//
well i think there are pros and cons of all the statements which is put into in discussion or debate!i agree what you have said but take look at it-
two pretty girls are walking together..one decently dressed up and another in revealing clothes.which one will attract a 'rapist'more??think it!!
i know a rapist will go on with whatever he finds what i have said goes on to worsen the matter!!


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Re: I read an article which got me thinking
May 13, 2005 - 03:47 AM

Originally posted by chandraprakash
[B //By this logic, it seems even a "pretty" girl who covers herself up will sexually arouse a male so extremely that he will have to rape her, thus, it is the destiny of a "beautiful" girl to be repeatedly raped her whole life until old age takes its toll on her appearance - I don't think that line of reasoning needs to be pursued further.//

i agree what you have said but take look at it-
two pretty girls are walking together..one decently dressed up and another in revealing clothes.which one will attract a 'rapist'more??think it!!
i know a rapist will go on with whatever he finds what i have said goes on to worsen the matter!!
[/B]



First, this doesn't actually relate to what I had written. I was speaking about the physical looks of a "pretty" girl and this comment relates only to the clothes that a girl ("two pretty girls," in this case) is wearing.

And regarding the actual point - I don't think we can presume to know the answer to the question of which of the two girls a rapist would choose to rape. Unless you are the rapist, you would have to ask him personally. I have come in contact with just as many men, perhaps even more, who are eager to deflower a virgin, or "conquer" the "unconquerable" woman (which could easily be represented by a conservatively dressed girl), as men who would opt for a girl who appears easier to obtain sexually.

I think the answer to this question would be personal and vary from one rapist to another - it all depends on his psychological "programming." The scantily dressed woman might not fulfill his reason for raping.

Obviously if the purpose for rape were sex, the girl who appeared "easiest" would be his preference. It is not about sex, it is not about looks.

In fact...I thought I had heard that the majority of women who are raped are raped by men they know... and that the rape scenario we are presuming in this thread is the least common rape scenario, which is a rape that occurs out on the street, in a parking lot etc., by a stranger. To discuss the question of why men rape, shouldn't the discussion be about the most common rape scenarios?


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May 13, 2005 - 05:01 AM

In Kenya, there is a certain clique of weird men, presumably from a certain community that beleives that having sex with a virgin is a sure cure for AIDS. And the repucussions of this beleif?? Rape, rape and more rapes. Also, young children are at risk of HIV infection from these superstitious beasts. To make matters worse, these men rape children from the age of one week old to seven or eight years old since at this time even young children are having sex, its only babies who are virgins.

Maybe its time people were enlightened that AIDS has no cure and that they should use ARVs to prolong their lives.


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