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Psychology
March 31, 2005 - 04:30 AM
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These days I have seen a lot of negative posts about the schools.
Sure,nobody likes school,so what?People comes to school to be educated so they will have a better future,even to a better life.They don't seem to understand the importance of school and how lucky they are to be teached.In some poor places like some parts of Africa,Asia.They cannot afford school.
Thus,this is information ura.We use high-advanced technology to work and do almost any thing.If you learns nothing in school,how would you survive in the work place.As the Chinese imgrate to Canada,it will soon have a fierce competition in the workplace,they often start from school.
If you are not a billionare,or a genius.I suggest not to complain about schools and count your blessings.
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Re: Psychology
April 9, 2005 - 01:49 AM
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I agree! But I dont think people actually dislike school, but it might be just that they are too lazy, or school doesn't work for them as much as they try to work for them. The schooling system has to understand the needs of the students and then it must adress them. School though, is not the only place of learning, but its the only place recognized. School is important to our future, but we should we willing to do our own schooling to or risk being brainwashed into to what ever is taught at school. You learn things that help you for your future, but your present as well. What you learn can come up in all sorts of unexpected places.
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Re: Psychology
April 10, 2005 - 01:24 AM
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Personally, i do feel that there is much to be done to schools and the syllbus to cater for the broad ranging needs of the people. I know how some people feel that they get stifled by the system and how it does not provide for them. If you are serious about learning something elsewhere, then go do it, griping won't get you anywhere. If they choose to be ignorant, that's their choice.
Basic skills still have to be taught in a structured enviroment and through structured learning (Like it or not). Otherwise, how else would you be able to comunicate with other people and do simple things like count out the change for your groceries? The role of education is to provide you with the basic background information you should have about life. Otherwise, how many people out there would be initiated enough to do their own learning? If you can't communicate well and you can't count, what dreams are there for you to speak of? Learn to walk before you fly and structured education is all about learning to walk
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Re: Psychology
April 10, 2005 - 03:47 AM
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Ofcource we all agree with u that school is so important and there are alot of things to learn from it . but believe me if ur educational system was like ours u would hate anything that has got to do with learning .let me tell u about our educational system here the only important year in school is the last year no matter how smart u were or ur marks were so high it doesn't matter bcoz they only care about the last year but what if u were an excellent student all ur life and in the last year which called here (Tawjihi) sth bad happened , u had an accident , someone dear & so close to u died it doesn't matter . that's y i'm really gonna try so hard with my friends to do everything to change our educational system
and 4 the second time i say i don't deny that school is so important but i also belive that u learn if u wanna learn
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Re: Psychology
April 10, 2005 - 04:20 AM
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Well most people might have different reasons for their attitudes towards schooling, laziness, poverty, poor infratructures, poor standards......it goes on and on.
The reasons are just simple our schools are failing,they are not following the path,by which they were created, by Greek philosophers, Plato, Euclid........
Most schools curriculum, mode of entrance, are not encouraging students, many schools these days want to be involve in almost everything, they force so many courses on students, instead of having a specialisation.
And science which is the father of courses is now being viewed by students as "mountain course", "maths is now as hard as making heaven".
This is as a result of poor schemes for these courses, by the pioneers of education.
I think there should be an easier way of teaching these things so that science learning can be as much fun as learning art courses like law, acting, and all that.........
That's what Professor Gabriel Oyibo(the man who formulated the God Almighty Grand Unified Theorem GAGUT) is trying to do with his new theorem which summarises all the elements in the periodic table into one, Hydrogen.
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Re: Psychology
May 24, 2005 - 01:09 AM
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there are many reasons people complain about school. but i agree there are people who dont even get a school. they cant even read! so befor complaning about the food, the few choices you get for electives, ect. you should think about those who would give there life for one day in school!
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May 24, 2005 - 12:23 PM
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I agree that you should not complain about school if you are priviledge enough to go to a good one. I go to a school where the kids have much nicer cars than the teachers, and the great majority of the kids are very wealthy. Of course, there are the middle-class kids like me, and the ones who are bussed in from the east side of town.
I think that the education system doesn't work for everyone, but with so many kids, the administrators really can't help it. There is really no way that everyone will ever have their individual needs met in schools, simply because of the magnitude of kids. I know kids who actually don't want to do the work, but a lot of the time, if you talk to these kids, you realize that they have potential, but their home lives aren't great, and their teachers are not supportive - they just see them as "dumb, slacker kids."
Personally, I know the system doesn't work for me - flourescent lights make my vision soom in and out, I have bad hearing, so the noise is a problem, and I don't like crowds. However, every time I'm given some new assignment that is silly and stifles my creativity, I just tell myself "Play the game." School is just a game; you play to each teacher's rules as best you can.
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Re: Psychology
August 6, 2005 - 07:27 AM
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Why do you think some students find school so frustrating though? There must be a reason and it is no good for us to try and blame them because they will just get angrier and less willing to learn.
We need to make changes to the views of society (its expectations, etc) and to the education system. But what specific changes should they be? We need to help identify these before any solutions can be worked out and put into place.
I would appreciate it very much if we could contribute to this discussion - then we would all have a clearer view of how to change for the better!!!
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Re: Psychology
August 7, 2005 - 03:17 AM
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You want some reasons why students hate school ..there are hundreds of reasons , don't you all find it weard how we the students sometimes love a specific teacher but in another hand we hate another teacher so much ,i'm gonna tell you about 2 of my teachers :the first one is my geology teacher which everyone love him why?
he's an excellent teacher he explains geology in an intersting easy way ,he used to help us in how to organize our time in our last year in a useful way , he used to let us participate in his class and if we didn't understand sth he was ready to repeat it and he always tried to make us feel better .
the second one is my chemistry teacher everyone hated him or tried to like him but couldn't why ?
he explains chemistry in a stupid useless way or to tell you the truth he didn't even explain ,he used to write things on the board and let us write with him without explaining and when you ask him about sth coz u didn't understand ..you wish if you died b4 u asked him because he would simply make you feel the most stupid person on earth and a loser who is absolutely worthless he would just say negative things that will make you feel down and in the end he won't answer your question .
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Re: Psychology
August 7, 2005 - 08:10 AM
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I think that a lot of good points have been made in the previous postings.
I will try to keep my posting short, which will be difficult as I am very passionate about the subject of education!
I have personally seen and felt many reasons why students would not want to go to school. Among the school-based reasons are hostile and disrespectful teachers; a curriculum that does not or is unable to meet a student's interests or requirements (imagine being dyslexic in a class where the teacher cannot understand or accomodate for you, or being in a class where you do not speak the language); supplies and facilities are inadequate and do not support learning
It is important to remember that there may be issues on the student's side as well. When people are hungry, they find it hard to focus and learn. If one has to deal with horrible family or societal circumstances, those issues take precedence over school. Some students have been failed by social systems repeatedly and no longer believe that the government (or whoever runs the school) has their best interest in mind (and they are usually correct).
I recall someone writing in a previous post that there are many ways to get an education. I wholeheartedly agree. I definitely understand why people complain about schools, because many of them are failing their students. Just because we are fortunate enough to have schools does not mean that we don't need to speak up for ourselves when the school is not addressing our needs. Imagine, saying that we should be grateful just to have schools is like giving peanuts to a community of starving people who are allergic to them and saying "they should be grateful that we are giving them anything at all."
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August 8, 2005 - 07:02 AM
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There is a lot of attention focussed on teachers - and fair enough, they are the faces we associate with education.
But just imagine that teachers and teaching styles are no longer a problem - what more would you change?
What more about the education SYSTEM would you change and what about the STRUCTURE of schools would you change to make it a better place?
I personally think there should be more emphasis on skills and process instead of tests and marks. Further, I enjoy structure, but not so much so that I am unable to enjoy various clubs, sports and other extracurricular activities without feeling like I am jeopardising my "career".
But when it comes to tests and assessments - we know they have to be there because it allows employers and other bodies compare apples - but how would you like assessment to be changed? Would you prefer a 3 hour exam or periodic, open dialogue with students, professionals and teachers? Would you prefer an autonomous project that allows your creativity (with support from teachers) or a standardised test?
What is the best thing about school? (list top 3)
What is the worst thing? (list worst 3)
Please comment.
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August 24, 2005 - 08:27 AM
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What is the best thing about school? (list top 3)
1-Freinds (hanging around with them in school )
2-Nice , active, easy going and understanding teachers who make their class interesting and learning in general iy's so nice to learn about things
3-Breaks and classes which u can express urself in them
What is the worst thing? (list worst 3)
1-Hiring wrong ppl for the wrong job (princeples,teachers)
2-Bad classes schedule (to put the art subjects classes ((and by art subjects i mean literature classes,languages ,philosophy,history))after another or to put scientific classes after other scientific classes without changing ,i mean they should put a scientific class then after it one of the art subjects so we would feel that there's changing and so we won't feel bored
3-The group punishment (to punish all the class or more than one class bcoz of what few students did)
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the very best 3 things about a school
August 27, 2005 - 03:06 AM
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When you wake up in the morning and feel that you are fed up with lessons, teachers and day-to-day learning recollect that there are people somewhere in the World who do not even know such a word "school". Then consider that it makes sence to stand up and go to school:
1) Opportunity
2) Future
3) Sustainability
You may consider it in both cases: for yourself personally and for the whole society or the World.
Another three numbers I see are:
1) kindergarden or parent's caring
2) School
3) University
There are the things that are the engines of the World we have now. Thnik of it, what would be if people grew without meeting the mentioned about three factors!
CARPE DIEM!
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the very best 3 things about a school
August 28, 2005 - 11:23 AM
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hey i agree with u....and i guess people need to realise that they should be happy with what they have and not crib "n" cry for more...
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August 29, 2005 - 10:44 AM
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Hello, meinourworld,
it's simply that people do need to realize that, but they don't do it just because of human nature. Consider yourself, most often people think about themselves, less often about others, especially about "inisible" world (e.g. people in other countries, Polar circle temperature ect). In the case of school a child is more concerned about his own comfort and doesn't think about the children abroad, about those whom he doesn't even know and it's possible to understand a child here. Another point is how an adult can make a child aware about the situation in other countries, how he can explain what the school really may mean for his life. It's psychology...I think...
by the way, could you specify your nickname? It's really interesting one! What did you want to say by it?
CARPE DIEM!
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