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Why does Poverty exist?
February 14, 2010 - 06:44 PM
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Well in the first step of finding a solution, we must fully identify the problem.
If we are to eradicate poverty, we must understand its causes and how to counter act those causes.
So what do you think causes poverty and what is the most sustainable and efficient way of fixing those problems?
Ill start...
I think those who live in poverty are there because of there education, and family. They were born into a poor family, could not afford education, and therefore have no worth. With no worth or skills nobody will pay them to do something, therefore having no income and being poor.
A solution to this isn't giving them food or rations or money. I think it is giving them all free basic education. Which can only be acheived by a world wide effort. If every country could start up 1 classroom which managed 30 - 50 students, and taught them basic education within the time span of a year, (like a normal school day) for free, then that is around 5000 newly educated people a year, which now can fight the poverty. and stop contributing to it.
Now what if each of those countrys can submit 10 subsidised classrooms? that results in 50,000 people a year who will no longer contribute to poverty. No longer bear children into poverty, and make them follow the same cycle, if we started that this year, by 2015, we would have removed around 250,000 from poverty and which potentionally could prevent 1,000,000 people from being born into poverty.
Although this is a very small number, it could be a start? What are your thoughts.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 15, 2010 - 07:24 AM
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ArKadian wrote:
Well in the first step of finding a solution, we must fully identify the problem.
If we are to eradicate poverty, we must understand its causes and how to counter act those causes.
So what do you think causes poverty and what is the most sustainable and efficient way of fixing those problems?
Ill start...
I think those who live in poverty are there because of there education, and family. They were born into a poor family, could not afford education, and therefore have no worth. With no worth or skills nobody will pay them to do something, therefore having no income and being poor.
A solution to this isn't giving them food or rations or money. I think it is giving them all free basic education. Which can only be acheived by a world wide effort. If every country could start up 1 classroom which managed 30 - 50 students, and taught them basic education within the time span of a year, (like a normal school day) for free, then that is around 5000 newly educated people a year, which now can fight the poverty. and stop contributing to it.
Now what if each of those countrys can submit 10 subsidised classrooms? that results in 50,000 people a year who will no longer contribute to poverty. No longer bear children into poverty, and make them follow the same cycle, if we started that this year, by 2015, we would have removed around 250,000 from poverty and which potentionally could prevent 1,000,000 people from being born into poverty.
Although this is a very small number, it could be a start? What are your thoughts.
You have a very good point ArKadian. Here in the Philippines, the major cause of poverty is also the lack of quality and accessible education. People born poor are not given enough resources to sustain their schooling. As a result, they usually stop. In rural areas, schools are not getting enough funding for improvement and expansion. The fast rate of population growth here in the Philippines is not being compensated. This results in the lack of facilities like classrooms. This lack of quality and accessible education affects the capability of the citizens to have their own livelihoods. Lack of jobs is also a problem here. Companies tend to select people with higher degrees than other applicants. As a result, most people consider going out of the country just to earn money.
To solve poverty, we have to tackle the roots of the problem. Since the lack of quality and accessible education is the main cause, it must be given much attention by the people. Like what has been discussed in the past threads, the solution is not spoonfeeding the people with resources, but teaching them how to feed their own selves (yeah, I know you remember the Chinese proverb  ).
I know you guys will agree that education is one of the most vital needs that we have today. I hope you guys could share your own thoughts too!
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 15, 2010 - 09:42 AM
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Good point Arkadian.
But personally, from what I've learnt about poverty, education alone is not enough. We have to ask, why can't their country afford to teach people? In most cases, its because their country owes a substantial amount of money to developed countries such as the G7 and so forth. It is when these countries cancel the debts of the under developed countries, can they fully utilise their national income for their own benefit.
And ones that happens, that's when they focus on education, health, etc.
Its a difficult process, but its achievable if all countries help out one another (MDG 8- Global Partnership).
I would also recommend you google Muhammad Yunus of Grameen Bank and read on his founding of the microcredit system. It helped a lot of poor people in Bangladesh, and its a good example to follow.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 12:50 AM
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From my point of view, poverty exists because of low quality of education. When people don't have a proper education, it is difficult for them to get a good job and get a good amount of salary. Thus, if we want to end poverty, first thing we got to do is increase the quality of our educational programs. Then, what make poverty still existed is our lack of social awareness. People nowadays are becoming more and more ignorant to the social problems around them. They becoming more and more selfish. It is very bad, because from my perspective, poverty is not only our government's problems, but also our society problems as well.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 05:33 AM
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Many things could contribute the word "poverty".. One is corruption, because the corruption of the government had caused the poorness of a country. I think that is the major contributor to poverty..
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 05:54 AM
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poverty exist because of the government....
they say that education is the solution but how can the education solve this problem if they are not giving more priority to our schools and they are not
implementing new programs to the schools that will help the students to gain extra knowledge... and the school libraries have
lack of new and updated books this is because of the government...
they are just spending the money alloted for Education for their own Necessity and leisure and this is the Primary Reason of Poverty...
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 06:02 AM
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owencazar wrote:
poverty exist because of the government....
they say that education is the solution but how can the education solve this problem if they are not giving more priority to our schools and they are not
implementing new programs to the schools that will help the students to gain extra knowledge... and the school libraries have
lack of new and updated books this is because of the government...
they are just spending the money alloted for Education for their own Necessity and leisure and this is the Primary Reason of Poverty...
Interesting point, although consider this. If you want to make money, what do you do? You get a job.
How are you selected for a job? You are chosen by your self worth. Education increases this self worth. So people in poverty who have no education are not worth anything to people who need a job done and will pay as there is people with an education willing to do it.
So if we educate the people in poverty, they would then have value, and with value comes opportunity and wealth.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 06:52 AM
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that's it.. we really sure that we can solve our big poverty matter as if we are the goverment. because we can just give straight all the money for our people.
it's one of it, but.. the most(what i believe) , poverty becomes real when we have no efforts at all. poverty means a stupidity of our human being. why? because every of us has been given thoughts from god.
only they who just seat back and lay down on their home and do nothing that will be hunted by the poverty ghost..
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 06:59 AM
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owencazar wrote:
poverty exist because of the government....
they say that education is the solution but how can the education solve this problem if they are not giving more priority to our schools and they are not
implementing new programs to the schools that will help the students to gain extra knowledge... and the school libraries have
lack of new and updated books this is because of the government...
they are just spending the money alloted for Education for their own Necessity and leisure and this is the Primary Reason of Poverty...
I agree with what ArKadian said. People cannot blame everything on the government. First of all, the government was not created just to spoonfeed the citizens with their needs directly. The role of the government is to guide and lead its people. While it is true that we can blame the government for the quality of education we have, the people are the ones who should take charge of ensuring that they will do everything to finishing their schooling. We can do projects to raise funds for the development of our own schools in our own communities. In my school when I was in my elementary years, we used to collect recyclable wastes and sell them for money just to raise funds for improving our library. Now, I can boast that my alma mater has the best library for a public elementary school in the region.
My point here is that we, the citizens, should take charge of our own lives. The government is just there to lead and guide us along our journey.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 07:27 AM
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For me, I think poverty exists because of corruption. Think of it, people pay taxes to the government to develop the country so that their standard of living can be higher. However, because of the corruption of political leaders, the money gets into their pocket and citizens get nothing in return, the country remains poor. After some time, it's not surprising that there will be people living in poverty.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 07:46 AM
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I believe poverty exists because of inefficiency of the society itself in allocating resources to ensure equity.
I can't help but ponder about why are there people who are excessively rich and people who are extremely poor, until I have reached this understanding.
Resources are resources. We live by them, we survive by them. It is finite, and it is up to us, ourselves, to distribute among ourselves. The reason why poverty exists is that, I believe, some people are taking more than proportionate resources for themselves(a.k.a the rich). Of course, one may think this is unfair, as certain people havce lost their oppotunities just because somebody else took theirs. That is why humanitarian organisations exists to reduce this inequality in opportunities given to the poorer.
However, forced total equity may not be a good thing itself. What if one day the amount of wealth you can accumulate is dictated, and when you have rightfully earned certain excesses(by doing extra work), you have no choice but to distribute it away, lets say, to someone whom unlike you, did not go the extra mile?
That is why total elimination of poverty in the world, in my opinion, may be unrealistic, because no one can deny that differences ezist in everyone. What we can do is to create more oppotunities for those willing to take it and have not taken what is rightfully theirs.
Of course, this is just what I believe. Can't say that it is a totally flawless idea.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 08:20 AM
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ArKadian wrote:
owencazar wrote:
poverty exist because of the government....
they say that education is the solution but how can the education solve this problem if they are not giving more priority to our schools and they are not
implementing new programs to the schools that will help the students to gain extra knowledge... and the school libraries have
lack of new and updated books this is because of the government...
they are just spending the money alloted for Education for their own Necessity and leisure and this is the Primary Reason of Poverty...
Interesting point, although consider this. If you want to make money, what do you do? You get a job.
How are you selected for a job? You are chosen by your self worth. Education increases this self worth. So people in poverty who have no education are not worth anything to people who need a job done and will pay as there is people with an education willing to do it.
So if we educate the people in poverty, they would then have value, and with value comes opportunity and wealth.
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It is true that both of you guys have great point of views here. I think your points are based from what you are experiencing or what you have experienced. And so, i believe that you are both correct. Though, for me, I personally believe that attitude is the root of this problem. Well, as Paul said, the government wouldn't be spoon feeding all our needs regarding education. It is our own look out, as students, to supplement and broaden the lessons that we learn. We should have the right attitude. We should persevere. Money isn't an obstacle for an individual to learn. Our own selves is the main factor to achieving success. People should always put in mind that "If there is a will, there is a way."
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 12:38 PM
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I feel that poverty exists for multiple interconnected reasons. Firstly there is the poor planning of a nation to consider. A nation's period of independence is also a reason. Lack of useful resources is another. And then there is corruption and selfishness at all levels. These hinder a country from flourishing.
No, we cannot only blame the government even if there are faults. After all, the government is made from people like you and me and between all of the people of the world, selfishness and inconsideration and inability exists. Not everything is in our control and it is hard for a government to maintain everything. However I do agree that many governments can do a better job. I agree with Kurt Aeron that 'if there is a will, there is a way' because that's really the first step which leads us to hard work and triumph.
The most basic steps for a country to grow out of poverty are to negotiate with more developed nations and if that isn't possible, work on its strong sides, e.g, agriculture, mining, fisheries, etc.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 05:07 PM
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Why does Poverty exist?
I think a poverty exist because
1. They are lazy
2. They don't have chance to representative
3. They don't have chance to study
and many many reason.
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Re: Why does Poverty exist?
February 16, 2010 - 06:52 PM
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ZlLim wrote:
I believe poverty exists because of inefficiency of the society itself in allocating resources to ensure equity.
I can't help but ponder about why are there people who are excessively rich and people who are extremely poor, until I have reached this understanding.
Resources are resources. We live by them, we survive by them. It is finite, and it is up to us, ourselves, to distribute among ourselves. The reason why poverty exists is that, I believe, some people are taking more than proportionate resources for themselves(a.k.a the rich). Of course, one may think this is unfair, as certain people havce lost their oppotunities just because somebody else took theirs. That is why humanitarian organisations exists to reduce this inequality in opportunities given to the poorer.
However, forced total equity may not be a good thing itself. What if one day the amount of wealth you can accumulate is dictated, and when you have rightfully earned certain excesses(by doing extra work), you have no choice but to distribute it away, lets say, to someone whom unlike you, did not go the extra mile?
That is why total elimination of poverty in the world, in my opinion, may be unrealistic, because no one can deny that differences ezist in everyone. What we can do is to create more oppotunities for those willing to take it and have not taken what is rightfully theirs.
Of course, this is just what I believe. Can't say that it is a totally flawless idea.
I agree with you too Zu Ler. I think there are some social gap that should be eliminate.
Your post show me another perspective.If we can create more oppotunities I think this problem maybe a little bit or the biggest solve. = ]
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