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Dumisani
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maybe i understand him a little differently now...
February 28, 2005 - 06:31 AM
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speaking of women's rights--i find the comments of Harvard University President, Larry Summers, on women in science to be rather sad and silly... he says he was just trying to get a discussion going... but the premise of his discussion [that women may be geneticially less capable prone to be good at science than men] to be stupid and not based on sound science at all. see http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/01/17/summers_remarks_on_women_draw_fire?pg=full
original remarks: http://www.president.harvard.edu/speeches/2005/nber.html
interesting articles have also emerged suggesting that the real issue is that women lack as much encouragement in developing in the sciences and the issues is less one of gender:- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/01/28/EDGD5B104O1.DTL
however, today's boston globe provides an interesting perspective [from a woman] reflecting on Summers's comments; http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/02/28/summers_spokethe_truth/
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Science consists of two processes.
February 28, 2005 - 07:21 AM
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Science consists of two processes.
The first is deduction and the second is induction.
1. Deduction is based on the process of making predictions based on theories.
2. Induction derives from pulling observations together to create a new theory
Any one who thinks women aren't good at science has absoulty no knowledge of women.
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Re: maybe i understand him a little differently now...
February 28, 2005 - 10:47 AM
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He's just jealous...
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Re: maybe i understand him a little differently now...
March 1, 2005 - 02:33 AM
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asshoodies,
i really cant understand what some of u people are saying, i was distracted by big words like "science" and "induction"
shame shame, is it possible that most women just dont give a crap about science? i sure dont.
but then again, thats probably why i have a D in that class.
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Re: maybe i understand him a little differently now...
March 1, 2005 - 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by -PERTURBEDREJECT-
asshoodies,
i really cant understand what some of u people are saying, i was distracted by big words like "science" and "induction"
shame shame, is it possible that most women just dont give a crap about science? i sure dont.
but then again, thats probably why i have a D in that class.
Aww come on. You know you want to be the next Girl Mad Genius!
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Cause and Effect !
March 1, 2005 - 05:55 AM
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Actually it was meant to be a joke upon the component of the woman and her capability to fictionalize their everyday situations and their cause and effect. I've never met a woman that wasn't coiming up with some kind of prediction or theory. lol !
Well anyway thats always been my experience with women.
Out of the ten people I sent it to - nobody got it ! lol !
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Dumisani
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maybe i understand him a little differently now...
March 2, 2005 - 07:00 AM
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i've been doing a lot of reading on what this guy said... i think his approach to the whole question/issue wasn't the best.
first of all--there are many many takes on his comments that the more you read, the more confused you get. but on one side-people feel that he made a statement that did not take into account existing scientific research and if he had, this question would not have arisen at all.
on the other hand, there are those that say he did not make any scientific claims but pointed out to the need for more research in this area. asking a question is in itself not a bad thing and should not be shut down and attacked as much as summers' questioning was supposedly attacked.
i also read in the newspaper today written by a woman [i think it was the new york times or boston globe... or some paper online] where they say summers was right in his questioning and in what he is leading towards. there was also a story about how there is scientific evidence on the difference in the male and female brain that suggest differences in certain strengths... but probably not in scientific ability....(?) i don't know.
see also this article: http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1029876,00.html in the latest issue of Time magazine. and also http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101050307/story.html
in his response, summers said that he was merely trying to be provocative and to start a debate. i guess in that sense, he scores 100% :-)
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