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Jessie Giles
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Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 14, 2005 - 12:35 PM
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What do people think about the way women dress these days??
In Australia there is pretty much free choice for women to wear what they like, though in some remote indigenous communities it is unexceptable to wear revealing clothing, especially to show off ones legs. Most of the women wear long skirts. In the community of Maningrida, Northern Territory, Australia, women are not allowed to show much of their legs or the shape of their legs but can show there breasts.
What can and can't women in your culture and community wear? What is and isn't exceptable?
In my culture (white, western, boring culture) women can were what they like..... to an extent. I like to wear what I feel comfortable in. I am a modest young woman and don't like to show to much flesh, but there are so many women in the city I live in who wear so little and show off so much of their body!
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 14, 2005 - 01:35 AM
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Most Canadians wear whatever suits them, and i strongly believe women should be free to wear whatever they feel good in, without comment or threat of danger. Too often women are blamed for the way they dress if they attract unwanted attention, harassment, or worse.
One thing that does bother me, however, is when people (especially girls and women) don't wear enough clothes in winter, even when it's extremely cold! I say sacrifice the fashion statement.
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 14, 2005 - 02:38 AM
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I'm all for freedom of expression and all that, but when I can see someone's thong that's taking it a bit too far! There's a reason why they call it "under"wear! Right? I shocked my dad when I was younger with what I was wearing (ripped up jeans and shreaded t-shirts...it was the 80s!) so I guess I can't complain too loudly. - . -
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 14, 2005 - 03:28 AM
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hello ... dears
I feel the clothes is one of most extensive problem specially in our society ,,, cause female and male must satisfied the desire of his or her parents and then desire his society then her/his self desire so it is unbelievable
in my opinion every body can wear what they wants
by the way ,,every body must care a lot about there clothes and fashions…..
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 14, 2005 - 03:58 AM
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Everything about the teens do nowadays just revolve around what we put on including our dressing code...even where they say we imatate also have a problem.......its all in style and i prefer to put on what my weather allows and so my clicks follow suit.....i have a slim body,some of my friends are huge and dont care what they will say...but will put on what the weather allows so long as their is no discomfort in long clothes.....its funny how they judge youth but no one asks them why they decide to put on tiny clothes......and who will question men who are in tight jeans????girls are always are prey.......we have cases of rape here in kenya..all blamed for our codes of dressing...is this fare?
It is until they know and learn better ways of communication,then they will see a behaviour change.
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 15, 2005 - 04:08 AM
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i think people should be allowed to wear what they want to women as much as men. Although in societys which, lets say are more conservative than others you should try and fit in, i see many foreigners in my country running around in shorts and tinsy tshirts and its just not right.
also what concerns me is that many teenagers into enormous debts because they feel that they will be more integrated in the *cool crowd* if they wear more expensive clothes, with lets say a tinsy little label saying "mango" or similar. A girl in my classs runs up to us everyday telling us how much her clothes cost, so that it isnt a total waste as you cant really recognise the quality as they are mostly torn or faded etc...but we dont really care i mean the stuff is all made in the same sort of factories by the same crowd of people. they are faded with the same chlorine and are sewn with the same machines, the cloth is hardly thicker...so whats the point??
another thing, Fashion is playing games with everybody.
Say, magazines would write :Green trousers, with pink poka dotts, that go up to your belly are in! gives you the funky style!
and the next day about three people will be sitting in class with a pair of em. i mean, how come everybody in town are wearing those specific boots??? suddenly i see them everywhere. a frend was commenting on them and explained that they make you look like a grizzly bear and now that most people wear them she decided it looks cute, like a little teddy bear. know what im saying?
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 15, 2005 - 04:25 AM
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I live in the United States and, just like Australia; the way American women dress is pretty lax.
I also visit Turkey a lot because I have family there. They pretty much dress like Americans but there are a few people who still wear the veils on their head and they don’t expose any skin except their face and hand. There are even some extreme women who wear an entirely black outfit (kind of looks like a dress) with long sleeves and gloves and even a black veil over their face so nothing shows.
It is acceptable in the sense that Turkey is still a Muslim country, but unacceptable in the sense that Turkey is quickly becoming very modern. None of my family over there dresses in the head veils or anything and thinks it is silly to do so. They think its degrading because those are the laws and principles from hundreds of years ago, and it also shows women as being less superior of men when that is clearly not the case.
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Jessie Giles
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Re: Clothing, Fashion, Dress Code
February 16, 2005 - 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by reubertochter
i see many foreigners in my country running around in shorts and tinsy tshirts and its just not right.
Reubertochter, I think this comment is so true. I believe, that yes women should have the right to wear what they please as should men, though I still believe people should respect the cultures and customs of other places when visiting them.
Thats just what I think any way.
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There is a Problem.
February 16, 2005 - 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by 9090
To me its all in the mind but culture is culture and fashion is fashion.
Perfectly put, 9090, and I daresay that a mixture of the two is explosive. It is also difficult for anyone to take hold of the two simultaneously.
Being African, and I want to say that there is a lot of westernisation taking place here with us, the most prominent form being the adoption of western dressing habits. With this I have no problem given that we want freedom of everything. But when one starts having problems like discomfort in adverse weather, harrasment and/or rape; evidently caused in one way or the other by the way we dress, then we have to think again.
The degree of damage this freedom is causing to our indegenous cultures and rich heritage is lamentable, but i also wonder aloud if it is at all avoidable given the fast rate at which most African girls are picking up the strings and the thongs which leave the wrong parts sticking oddly out.
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Moses 2005
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Your Dressing tells a lot about you!
February 16, 2005 - 08:04 AM
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A friend of mine recently went for a job interview and to tell the truth the guy has so many qualifications and i just said to myself ,Johns gonna get the job.I gave my heartfelt prayer so that he could get it and he had been out of work for a very very very long long time and sadly he is the first born and traditionally the first born in my culture is uasually looked upon ,especially if he is a MAN.So off goes John to the marketing manager and he loks at his papers and good God hes papers spoke toons about him he didnt have to say a word i know John he is one of the biggest sale person i know in my area.So the guy looks at his papers a second time and says"sorry we have no vaccancies at the moment".The guy whose next John goes in and Johnny boy tells him,"good luck"."Thanks i will need all the luck in the world .You know what he got the job.I only went to ask as a matter of concern why my friend didnt get the job since i work in the same company and i felt i had to do JB(short for Johnny Boy)a favour !My boss told me one thing ."His dressing made him loose 2 points!
The relevance of the story or what seemed to happen is exactly what we are talking about
When you dress in an uptight small mini dress that doesnt seem to fit you at all what message are you giving me?When you come to a job interview dressed in jeans and a t-shirt what are you trying to imply?When you come fro a picnic dressed up in an all spruced up suit what are you saying?
I said some time back :Men have a problem with their eyes and women have a problem with their ears .To me its all in the mind but culture is culture and fashion is fashion.Today i love women who stand up in the Islamic countries and say we do not have to stay all covered up like Ninjas ,but we will uphold our culture and dress just covered a bit so that we can also get to see.I praise our Maasai who have dressed up in their bangles and necklaces and in all their wonderfull courled garb and upheld the meanning of their culture.
Somtimes Fashion and dress code may be to extreme ,but our culture may also be too extreme ,my advise find a way both will get fifty fifty.Thats may view .Dont read beautyu magazines they will only make you look ugly.Dont do what Ludacriss or Jay-Z or Jojo or J.lo does it will definately be a case of the Emperors New dress.Be smart ,Dress Smart ,Think Smart!
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February 20, 2005 - 01:50 AM
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I find it to be outrageous the silly, uncomfortable, problematic, and rude things that people wear nowadays. I live in south Florida and the things people wear is just mind blowing. Why on earth would you wear clothing that does not allow you to move the way you need to move to do the typical tasks in the day? Why on earth would you wear something that makes you look bad or degrading? Why on earth wear something that you are going to give the wrong impression to people? I have seen people wear classy outfits out to the Renaissance Fair that we all know is out doors where it is dirty, dusty, hot, and humid. Why be uncomfortable? I have watched girls wearing short little shirts have to constantly pull them up into place. Why wear something that takes continuous work or monitoring? The worst thing I see is the girls that wear an outfit that is said to be “in-style” when it is obvious that a specific body type was meant for the outfit and the wearer does not have that body type. These low cut jeans, shots, and skirts are designed with females of hour glass shape, girls with hip and small stomachs. Why do girls that have no hips wear them? I hate seeing girls that wear outfit that show just how over weight they are. I am over weight by about 25 lbs. I don’t wear anything that show off just how large my thighs are, or how mush of a tummy pouch I have, yet I always see girls that have larger tummy pouches than me wear these outfits were their fat just sticks out in sight.
When we say it is ok for people to dress how ever they want there needs to be education on wearing things that suit you, things that are comfortable, things that you can do the activities required of you, things that you feel respectable in, things that make you feel good about yourself (not self-conscious), things that show you for who you are (not some Barbie dressing how they say is the “in” way), and things that don’t offend other people.
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February 20, 2005 - 07:10 AM
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I personally think that women in today’s society are going to wear what their culture and community allows them too. If you are of a certain religious background that does not allow you to wear certain items of clothing, of course you are going to follow those rules. However, on the other hand, if women grew up in a society with no limitations or regulations as to what they could and could not wear, I think they way the women dress, is the image of themselves they want to present. For example, in the United States, where I am from, if women want to portray the image of being trashy or a prostitute, they will wear clothes that hardly cover any of their body and want guys to focus all of their attention on them. Then if a woman wants to looks classy, she will cover up enough of her body to not look like a slut, but still look nice at the same time. So basically the way women want themselves to be perceived as, is the way they will dress. Here in the United States women can wear basically anything they want to, as long as the major body parts are covered up.
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February 21, 2005 - 10:54 AM
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yeah beachbabe, I hear ya. But I've seen women try and dress classy for like an interview or something that needs a nice presentation and they still wear an outfit that is trashy. I'm not conservative, but my peer's lack a sense of decency when it comes to dressing up. They think a nice skirt and cute shirt are casual formal but the skirt is too tight to be casual formal or too short. The shirt will show too much clevage to be decent or is too tight or continuously rises up and shows the stomache or the fat rolls. I was talking about these instances that people try to dress approprietly yet aren't.
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February 25, 2005 - 02:37 AM
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I think, much as there is freedom for one to put on the way he/she wants, some facts need to be put into consideration. This is because we may destroy what we are building in the name of freedom. Women, for example, should know that putting on clothes which expose their bodies will arouse men's sexual appetite. This results in all immoral practices - rape, defilement, and domestic sexual violence. Do you know that a amn may rape his own wife or force her to sex before time due to her exposing of her private parts? What about the children who watch their mothers and sisters expose their bodies?
In my opinion, women should not think that by exposing their bodies, they are enjoying their freedom and being emancipated. No! This degrades their value and they are looked at as sexual objects. Remember, what one is willing to show, he/she is willing to give. This is the whole idea men get when they look at such women.
I like some women in my culture (Uganda) who hardline on long dresses as a sign of keeping their dignity. I value them, and I think they should be an example to the young girls in such countries.
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Legal and Ethical
February 25, 2005 - 08:36 AM
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I wish to differentiate between "legal" and "ethical". When you talk about freedom, you refer to the law. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no law governing the way people should dress. Therefore its legal to wear whatever one feels like wearing.Then there is the aspect of society, where the word "ethical" applies. Noone will arrest you for doing something unethical, but society will just disregard you as a human being.
When one disregard you, you need not get mad because its your behaviour that does not conform with the ethos as defined by that person with regard tothe society and it is "legal" for that person to feel that way as long as they dont defame you.
Thus,when you wear whatever you want,don't expect everyone to approve, and in these days of HIV/AIDS, I think we have to make certain sacrifices,sex being one of them. Why not sacrifise on dressing as well? No exposure,no lust and no lust, no casual sex. This is my plea to mankind.
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