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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 10, 2005 - 01:58 AM

yong kyeong.
you have still not responded to my request of telling me what is like in your country. You may get the priveledge to study in Russia and your family may have never been effected by the government, but for reasons i do not understand. North Korea does not have a prospering economic economy compared to that of south koreas and your imports and exports are not as impressive as that of other democratic countries. This is a sign of north korea's desparate and unhappy society. Tell me how can you live in a society where it's economy is failing and most of your civilians are fleeing to the south where there is a successful economy.??

America will not attack north korea north korea does not need nuclear weapons.


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May 11, 2005 - 02:16 AM

Originally posted by YongKyeong
[B]I take offense to you equating my nation with Al Qaeda.
B]


is that an offense to Al Qaeda?

equating North Korea with India(HINDU-STAN) – IDEAL!


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May 12, 2005 - 02:05 AM

luke
what is the film ur producing about?
do u think china will become the most powerful country in the world in the future?


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May 12, 2005 - 02:10 AM

Thank You for the compliment Dalit. That was so unexpected but really sweet of you.

Beckham

Please look back a few pages. I have written about life in my country. People are happy in my country and not running away like you think.

Stamford

North Korea is an ally of Iran and that's why the Zionists want their puppet, USA, to attack our country. Anyway, war is out of question.

Luke

Its good we agree that war is no option. When are you visiting here? Any plans to come to the Far East?


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May 12, 2005 - 02:31 AM

India and China are both going to be economic superpowers.

As to if it will be the MOST powerful - not sure it has a ways to go before it catches up with US.

obviously they have alot of people - their evolution will be interesting - they are pragmatically and gradually sheding communism because they cannot compete with us economically this way.

The biggest problem they will have to overcome seriously is language - English is a romance language with a 26 letter Alphabet - it is ALOT easier to learn then Chinese.

I have a feeling English will remain the pre-eminant world language for quite some time - and even when Chinese coorporations become pre-eminant they will conduct most of their international bussiness in English.

There is also the issue of Intellectual property rights - basically the Chinese recognise no rights right now. Eventually they will have to.

The US is also going to have to start positioning itself now in terms of economics - we can't allow them to continue to manipulate their currency as this puts us as a distinct disadvantage - I think we also need to push HARD for better labor practices in China - simply by boycotting products made in sweat shops.

I don't care how successful China is - that is their bussiness - my concern is that between India and China they will roll back progress on working standards in the developed world because it is the only way to compete.


The Film is a fantasy epic, working with major producers and have attached 2 academy award nominated actors - script is in the works looking to shoot it for about 40 million $

actually while we are talking labor - that is why we are shooting there - its cheap - this film would cost 120 million in the states which would render it unmakable.


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May 12, 2005 - 11:03 AM

Senior Russian Lawmaker Blames North Korea Nuclear Crisis on U.S.

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The ongoing crisis in the settlement of the North Korea nuclear issue is largely brought about by the United States’ reluctance to compromise, the head of the foreign affairs committee in Russia’s lower house of parliament, Konstantin Kosachyov, told a news conference in Moscow on Thursday.

Kosachyov said, it is necessary to look into all the components of the crisis. The North Korean leadership fears that “colored revolutions” that hit some of the post-Soviet republics over recent months might spread into its territory.

While the U.S. administration has labeled North Korea a part of the so-called axis of evil, the North Korean government fears that the U.S. could take action to overthrow its ruling regime, Kosachyov said.

“The six-party talks focus on issues that are too politicized and create additional obstacles for the settlement,” Kosachyov noted. All the countries taking part in the talks seek to ease political tensions between the U.S. and North Korea and look forward to the resumption of talks together with N.Korea, he said.

Earlier this month, upon his return from Pyongyang, Kosachyov said that North Korea wanted an apology for hostile U.S. comments before it would resume six-party talks on its nuclear program.

“Pyongyang considers that the ultimate goal is adhesion of the Korean peninsula to nuclear-free status,” Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the Russian Duma, or parliament, was quoted as saying. However, “we were informed that without public official apologies by Washington in this regard there will be no reconsideration by Pyongyang of its position on six-party talks,” Kosachev said.

In particular Washington’s labelling of North Korea as an “outpost of tyranny” is a key obstacle to resuming the six-party talks that stalled in the middle of last year.

Russia is a key member of the six-party format that diplomats hope will help solve the nuclear impasse over North Korea. In addition to North Korea and Russia, the talks also involve China, Japan, South Korea and the United States.


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 12, 2005 - 12:44 PM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

that is hilarous.

What are the 6 party talks about? They are about how North Korea should not have violated its treaty and resumed building nuclear weapons.

There would be no need for the talks in the first place were North Korea not an outpost of tyranny.


You see Kim had already cut a deal with America in the early 90's that had security assurances as well as an aid packadge for food and fuel because the North Korean economy sucks and needed Americas help FEEDING THEIR PEOPLE.


Being the DISHONORABLE man that Kim is he lied to America and the UN - violated the treaty that he signed - took the food and fuel and started building Nukes anyway.

Basically because he would not know the concept of HONOR if it slapped him in the face.


Now he is trying to get a better deal - renegotiating as it were.

His problem is that after violating the last treaty he signed - who will beleive him this time around?

in order to sign a treaty now we must have real consequences to another violation - and a way to implement them.



but to say it is the US's fault that the talks have stalled - when North Korea is the one who is refusing to come to the table - and their violation of a treaty is the REASON the talks are needed in the first place - is just laughable.


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 12, 2005 - 12:47 PM

Bro - hopefully someday - when Korea is reunified I can visit your country.


But you must reolize that Americans are not allowed into North Korea except on rare occasions with special permission - and even then there is a military escort.

Other coutries like Russians have an easier time visiting - Americans are not allowed.

I will probably be visiting Russia at some point soon -

As for the far East - I am producing a feature Film in development which plans to shoot in China - in which case I will be living in the East for a while.


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 13, 2005 - 02:51 AM

yong

how did u get the permission to study outside of korea?....
is it difficult for south koreans to travel to north korea?
can u leave north korea whenever u want?


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 13, 2005 - 03:25 AM

Uh Beckham - yes it is difficult for South Koreans to visit North and vice versa -

they are still technically at war.


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 13, 2005 - 04:28 AM

Why are so many of you supporting North Korea? This is a rogue state. They are a threat to any nation that is within striking distance from them.

Everybody was angry at America for invading Iraq under false premises but North Korea is a different story. America would be justified in enforcing a regime change.

Yong...

You love your country but you are blinded with affection for Kim. And you mentioned that Israel is against your country because of its relations with Iran. Are you telling us that your country is cooperating with Iran in their nuclear program? That would make the entire Asian continent, North Africa and Southern Europe a more dangerous place. Do we want that?


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May 13, 2005 - 07:39 AM

Originally posted by luke English is a romance languageSorry for being pedantic...English isn't a romance language. It's actually Germanic! I didn't believe it at first either. It's mistaken for Romance because it has been heavily influenced by French. The Romance languages are: Italian (of course!), Spanish, French and Romanian...unless I'm forgetting someone. = ) Just look at "olde" (heh heh) and middle English...looks a lot like German.


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May 13, 2005 - 12:38 PM

thank you AryaBrahmin - it is nice to see a few people still have common sense.

The idea that Israel or any country needs to tell the US to deal with North Korea is a joke.

The US already fought a war with North Korea - we have a higher troops concentraition along the DMZ then anywhere alse in the world.

We know without being told thanks.

Andthe idea that hte US is a puppet of Israel just demonstraites alot of ignorance - its the other way around thanks - we are the big country, they are the little country.

As for Iran - they are still dreaming of being part of the world trade organization etc.



Yong don't fool yourself for a moment with the perception of anti-americanism in Europe - they are critical sure - but when push comes to shove with North Korea and Iran France and Germany are siding with US, sop is the rest of Europe and every member of NATO. So is India, the IAEA - the world basically.

If you want it to be Iran and you guys against everyone else...


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Re: Proliferation of WMDs
May 14, 2005 - 01:58 AM

Yong

I appreciate your liking for India but your government doesn't share this love.

Pakistan's 'hatf', 'ghauri' and 'ghazni' missles are all made in North Korea. In fact, Pakistan and North Korea have been working together in proliferation of weapons for a long time.

India has excellent relations with South Korea. The countries have a free-trade agreement and have granted each other Most Favoured Nation status. India is South Korea's 5th largest trading partner and South Korea is India's 7th largest trade partner.

The two countries have a special visa regime and strong cultural links. More than half a million South Korean tourists and Buddhist pilgrims visit India.

There is no chance of India supporting North Korea politically under any circumstances.


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May 14, 2005 - 04:02 AM

Originally posted by AryaBrahmin
Why are so many of you supporting North Korea? This is a rogue state. They are a threat to any nation that is within striking distance from them.

Everybody was angry at America for invading Iraq under false premises but North Korea is a different story. America would be justified in enforcing a regime change.

Yong...

You love your country but you are blinded with affection for Kim. And you mentioned that Israel is against your country because of its relations with Iran. Are you telling us that your country is cooperating with Iran in their nuclear program? That would make the entire Asian continent, North Africa and Southern Europe a more dangerous place. Do we want that?



Friends -I share your concern about the impact of North Korea going fully nuclear. I just wanted to point out (To Aryabrahmin in particular) that in wake of certain threats countries don't give a damn to what their actions may cause to a region. Back in 1998 when India and Pakistan tested their nuclear missiles (after working on them for years) they did not think of what they were doing to the region. Tell me if they did. So , Kim and his regime are no different. They wouldn't give a damn to what they are doing to the region and "the countries within striking distance". All they want is something to help them survive against the ever growing external pressure.We all know that for survival , you cross every boundry.

Same can apply to the Iran. They have reasons to believe that the US attacked Iraq because she knew Sadam was not capable of defending his regime. The fact that the US choose to go after Iraq first (and now probably the last) is itself a sign of confidence. Since not much is known about the North Korean nuclear potential and there are every doubts about what really is in their closet, one can argue that the US did not risk a nuclear retaliation by the Kim regime and ,thus, did not threaten of or implied force against him. Therefore , the Iranians have been drawn to believe that nuclear capability will give them a bargaining chip and of course gurantee their survival.

It is very unpracticle to think that the Iranian government (whomever elected if was really Iranian) won't go nuclear and that Kim doesn't have some already. Iran has it's disputes with Pakistan over areas in Baluchistan -at least- , and it is hard for them to be in the game with Pakistan - who is a nuclear power. I believe denying North Korea and Iran the right to go nuclear is as unpracticle as getting the nuclear powers disarm.

This shall not be taken as an advocacy for the Kim regime or the Iranian government.But just an undrestanding of how complex things are.


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